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SwissBlade said:
Just proves that when you pay a fee it doesn't guarantee quality.
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or it proves the 150 k gambles are just that
They might turn out to be shit or they might turn out to be good

Thats why they only cost 150 k
 



alcoblade said:
My thoughts entirely. Awful right now, but scored shit loads at a higher level over the previous 2 seasons.

Chesterfield fans thought Doyle was wank last seson. They're playing it differently at a higher level this season and look at him go.

I don't think we get enough people in and around the box, often enough, to suit his style. He's definitley not a mobile player, he's a finisher. Without service, or someone to feed off him, he's a waste of a shirt.

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Very good and fair point Alco. You can't score goals if your not being given the ball in the position to do so.
 
Not writing him off yet, but we have to say this is a really disappointing start to the season for him. At least McNulty is starting to show improvement.
 
I've been prepared to give Higdon a chance and haven't knocked him like others have in previous weeks but the lad has now had the equivalent time of a pre-season schedule with us, from what we've been told he's been working on his own programme alongside working with the rest of the squad in order to get him fit & upto speed & what has he shown so far in return?

Absolutely nothing. The bloke doesn't run, doesn't anticipate & doesn't look interested in being on the pitch in a red & white shirt.

I don't like knocking any of our players & I am always willing to give them a chance & hope in the long run something magical happens & Higdon becomes a goalscoring machine & genuine threat but at the minute he doesn't even look interested in breaking sweat nevermind breaking his neck to get into goalscoring opportunities.

I'm not having the 'he's not fit' statement anymore, he's had 6-7 weeks training day-in day-out aswell as being involved on a match day, he should be close to or near enough at full fitness by now but he looks a long, long way off.

Managers & players alike talk about how the only way to get 'match fit' is to play matches but he's never gonna get fit if all he does is plod round on a match day looking disinterested & watching others do his running for him such as McNulty who worked his knackers off last night doing two players running as Higdon couldn't be arsed.

McNulty is getting better & better everytime he plays, he looked sharp last night & was our only threat first half until he got shoved outwide to compensate for Higdon staying uptop on his own which as proved didn't & will not work as the guy simply doesn't have the work ethic to play that role, infact play any role at the minute as if he isn't prepared to work hard for the team he may aswell be sat at home.

Big improvement needed Michael
 
Jim Chimmerney said:
I think Clough sees him as a nuisance player, one who will bully their defence leaving space for other strikers / midfielders to take advantage of. He's also shown that he's a decent finisher throughout his career given the chances. We've been very lightweight up front in recent seasons and we've seen the likes of Brentford, Wolves getting out of this division with strong powerful strikers.

As I say, I just don't think we've gelled up front yet and I don't think Clough's got an idea at the moment who should play and injuries haven't helped. That's why I'm not convinced that throwing another striker into the mix would definitely improve things, it's not as if Higdon's missing chance after chance. He doesn't, though, look like the kind of player who will fashion chances off his own back a la Ched.
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Surely NC had done his due diligence before taking him on, or was he a panic buy?
 
Pragmatic Blade said:
I love it that after less than 5 games he is considered a huge failure despite Clough openly saying he isn't fit and will take time to get match fit. Have patience please!

He isn't Diego Costa but we are in the third tier of English football at the moment!
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He's not playing against teams that Diego Costa plays against either.
I don't know why he should be so unfit, he's a pro footballer, he should be fit enough. I can understand he might be off the pace match fitness wise but this guy is just unfit, period. If it was a match fitness problem he should at least show something even if only now and then, but he just offers nothing.
Hope he turns it around and quickly but he's not the first striker to struggle at the strikers graveyard
 
Kenilworth said:
McNuts had a good game at Upton Park - he will develop into a good asset in time
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Similar performance last night to the one he gave at Upton Park. He's quick, sharp & an absolute nuisance that defenders must hate playing against

If anyone is going to play the lone role uptop out of Higdon & McNuty then it has to be McNulty
 
Match fitness isn't determined about how quickly he runs about or how fast he is over 20 yards, I don't think anyone thought he was going to be quick!

I recall other players having equally inglorious starts to their Blades career including Stuart McCall, Ched Evans and im sure many more. What gets on my nerves is the fact that everyone writes the bloke off after a handful of games (apologies, it is 7).
 
It's quite obvious he wasn't Clough's first choice. In fact, I don't think he was in Clough's top 10 choices! However, he was available and within our price range, so was worth the gamble as otherwise we would have entered the season with porter and McNulty as our only strike options.

So, he's rubbish. Nothing new there, but I understand why he was brought in. It's now down to how we rectify this and not a case of 'making do' just because he's been a disappointment. Nothing has changed, we needed a striker and we still do, but the signing, however desperate, was a justified one at the time.

Be honest, who else (like me) thought 'thank god we've signed a striker' even though you had never heard of the guy?
 
"The Hig" could yet be a Scouse Jostein Flo. Or even a Wayne Allison.
 



alcoblade said:
I don't think we get enough people in and around the box, often enough, to suit his style. He's definitley not a mobile player, he's a finisher. Without service, or someone to feed off him, he's a waste of a shirt.UTB
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This is a very good point what a lot of people have missed.He came off last night and all of a sudden we started to get players in and around the box,mainly due to the players that came on and not him coming off,so it would have been interesting to see if he could have been where Flynny was when he got his tap in after the change in how we approached the game,because before that we hardly got anyone up there to support him.

Can anyone tell me how many chances we have created for Higdon? I would hazard a guess it isn't many at all.

I'm not saying he's great by any stretch of the imagination,and at the moment it's hard to defend him as stats speak for themselves,especially when it comes to strikers,as they get judged on how many they score,but i totally agree with alcoblade on this that we don't play to his strengths,and with that been the case,he certainly is a waste of a shirt until we get players around him.

Oh,and last night wasn't just down to Higdon why we were absolutely crap in that first 80 minutes.
 
Pittsburg Blade said:
Higdon = Porter - Goals
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That's a bit unfair. Porter works hard and chases the opposition back line, works the channels and tries to get in goalscoring positions. Porter's limitations are almost entirely down to technical ability. Higdon's limitations so far seem to be mostly down to application, but watching the ball bounce off his shins for ten yards and his inability/unwillingness to jump I'd say technical ability is also an issue.
 
alcoblade said:
Sorry, but that's a myth that only has any semblance of acceptance because a few people repeat it often enough. Porter is rubbish both aerially and at holding the ball up.

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Whereas your mate Higgy........

9/8/14 quote

"Won't go to town on him 1st game of season but the improvement in the lad will have to be "significant" to win me over, otherwise I fear we have brought in yet another over the hill useless lump"

Tell me I was wrong !!!!!!

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DronnieBlade said:
Whereas your mate Higgy........

9/8/14 quote

"Won't go to town on him 1st game of season but the improvement in the lad will have to be "significant" to win me over, otherwise I fear we have brought in yet another over the hill useless lump"

Tell me I was wrong !!!!!!

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A shit player is a shit player, and when it's clear that's the case I'll say so. I have no desire to be proved right (he's not my mate), and you should make sure that's the case with you - keeping old quotes like tyou have is never a good start.

I'd say Higdon's been poor for us so far (I didn't even get the fuss after the first game by the way), but it's far to early to judge because he hasn't been fit (only so far this can be an excuse), is in a new team, and our style hasn't suited him.

I've more of a doubt over whether we'll ever play a style that does suit him than if he's got goals in him, but either way if it's not good enough I'm happy to say so.

Having said the above you literally wrote him off after one game, so I'm really pissing in the wind debating it with you :)

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I was having a poke about the internet ( I know you - you can get arrested for that :p) and came across some Michael Higdon pics - in Belgium and at SUFC - interesting comparison and might explain a lot - I hope NC has him going to Slimming World.

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Yeah he looks like he needs to keep away from those bar snacks....and the bar !! *

*allegedly.....
 
alcoblade said:
Sorry, but that's a myth that only has any semblance of acceptance because a few people repeat it often enough. Porter is rubbish both aerially and at holding the ball up.

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Exactly and he wastes enough chances when he gets them. He must score about 1 in 10 chances that come his way. The only thing Porter is good at is sticking a penalty away. Although Davies seems to be OK at doing that these days.

Higdon should come good but at the moment young McNulty is the better option.
 



While I don't think Higdon is the striking messiah we've all been waiting for, and is clearly not firing on all cylinders just yet, I think he's suffering from bad tactical placement by Clough. Our Nige is usually on point with formations, but I really think he's got this wrong. Every game I've seen him in, he's stuck far too deep up front and isolated. As said earlier in this thread, he needs players creating chances around him, but far too often he's on his own and getting mopped up by small, agile defenders.
 
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