Wilder OUT - megathread

[luffenhamblade]

If we were to get a points deduction I wouldn’t back Wilder to keep us in this league, going on our performances so far this season.

If we get a points deduction I wouldn’t bet on anyone keeping us in this division.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Im trying to work out after after each game of watching us but im struggling to work out what our tactics are, and if we even have any?

1. Are we set up to be an attacking team
2. Are we more of an offensive team
3. Are we a counter attacking team
4. Are we a team of names sent out to 'do what you do'
5. Are we a .mix of all of rhe above?

We look like a group of lads shoehorned into an 11, with no real idea of what to do. Today was the same as Tuesday, no team should be coming to Bramall Lane and having 15 plus attempts on our goal unless we are set up to be stop attacking and leaving ourselves open.

Sacking him now isnt going to happen but how do we sort out the complete lack of a gameplan?

Thank you for an intelligent anti- Wilder
Post, they are few and far between the blades blade and the Wilder is god. Good to see someone actually making the point using their brain.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Norwich and Middlesbrough managed to replace managers very successfully last season, did they not? Two clubs who, like us, don’t have parachute payments but do have decent budgets for this league.

What is needed is for someone to commence the job of dismantling this well paid but godawful squad that currently looks like a combination of Frankenstein’s Monster and a Heath Robinson contraption that he knocked together when he was pissed.

I just struggle to see any point unless we get new owners. Agree it’s probably time for him to go but I don’t have confidence in the owners to appoint anyone better

 

[Espania blade]

As expected. Not my job.
Maybe we might ask Des Taylor on that one. Or maybe find someone in the game to consult who sees a poor quality manager and knows the game and who's out there.

Like most decently run clubs manage to do.

But not us. Now tell me why that is? Because that is the root of the issue.

The next manager is already in the building! The lad that stepped up from the academy and Phil Jones as his number two - when the owners first came in they talked about wanting "succession" I also think they don't want anybody over sixty (is that why Nill'y went and CWs contact ends when he's sixty (ish)

 

[Broomhall Blade]

How are the cult going to explain that one?

If we are relegated the Badge slapping Brigade would still defend him "its the boards fault and don't forget Wilder got us out of the 1st Division last time".
Oh and "remember Selles be careful what you wish for".

 

[metalblade]

Where are the chief clappers tonight?

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

The whole atmosphere round the club is just "meh". Even the players dont look delighted when they score, and the cheers from the stands definitely seem subdued.

Very few players have songs about them, attendances just starting to creep down, no clarity on the ownership and direction of the club.

These arent good times and im very concerned they get worse.

 

[Blade In Flame]

Where are the chief clappers tonight?

Probably under the same stone that you've just emerged from. Where have YOU been the last few weeks?

 

[Broomhall Blade]

These ‘reliable’ experienced players Wilder has brought in with our limited funds:

• Jairo, shadow of the player from last season. He wasn't that good first time around but Wilder still signed him.
• Rothwell, very underwhelming and disappeared from the team, doesn’t even come off the bench. Absolute garbage, didn't the fact he couldn't get in the squad of a side that plays in arguably one of the worst leagues in Europe tell Wilder anything.
• Hamza, crap but can’t be subbed. Wasn't brilliant first time, again could not even get in a First Division side.
• Doherty, disappeared despite having no fit RB. Released by a side in the same division as us.
• Phillips, looks okay but can only play 45 mins. ? Only Wilder knows that one.
• Jury still out on BBD V3.To be fair he's been probably the best of Wilders signings listed above but its an extremely low bar.

We have 5 cm’s but it’s now at a point where I genuinely can’t pick 2 I want to start they’ve all been so underwhelming or can’t last more than 60 minutes.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Probably under the same stone that you've just emerged from. Where have YOU been the last few weeks?

Can't wait can they. Some Blades they are

 

[raul]

How come the Worlds hardest manager fields the World's softest team?

 

[Nick Jansky]

I just struggle to see any point unless we get new owners. Agree it’s probably time for him to go but I don’t have confidence in the owners to appoint anyone better

I would expect the owners will have learned plenty of lessons from last time. You don’t make the sort of money they both have without learning from past mistakes. I would expect a very different recruitment process next time, whenever that is.

 

[dc_blade]

With his transfer fee budget of zero… I can’t imagine it would have been the same list had we actually been able to pay a fee or two.

But the wage budget has not been zero. And we’ve probably spent a decent amount on loan and signing on fees.

And at this point it’s hard to argue that the limited resources we’ve had have been well used. And that has been a problem in three of the last four windows that Wilder has overseen.

 

[Foxy]

How come the Worlds hardest manager fields the World's softest team?

We took a competitive side. They were dirty, those boys from Rothwell. Geoff MOTM.

 

[VonBrysonsExpress]

I disagree with anyone saying they want wilder out but not now due to the ownership shenanigans. It doesn't matter anymore, can't people see wilder will take us down, not with huge thrashings but with a gentle incline.

He hasn't changed in seasons when managing borough & Watford to us. He has no ideas, no magic to get players performing above their level, tactically inept. Can't manage non UK players but now can't get a tune from UK 'culture carriers' either.

I love utd but for the last few seasons have struggled to identify anyone within the team or management and just feel numb. Older blades will see the writing on the wall.

 

[jt64]

I would expect the owners will have learned plenty of lessons from last time. You don’t make the sort of money they both have without learning from past mistakes. I would expect a very different recruitment process next time, whenever that is.

Actually having a recruitment process would be a good start

 

[LiamBG]

Which cult? The 80% cult who want him in or the 20% cunt who want him out?

20%

 

[BessemerBob]

Norwich and Middlesbrough managed to replace managers very successfully last season, did they not? Two clubs who, like us, don’t have parachute payments but do have decent budgets for this league.

What is needed is for someone to commence the job of dismantling this well paid but godawful squad that currently looks like a combination of Frankenstein’s Monster and a Heath Robinson contraption that he knocked together when he was pissed.

Norwich and Middlesbrough unlike us, have a stable board. Ours have been a car crash. Sold our best 3 attacking players last season for £20m, and not given him a penny to replace them.

Nobody in their right mind would want to come here with the ownership as it is.

 

[54yrblade]

Norwich and Middlesbrough unlike us, have a stable board. Ours have been a car crash. Sold our best 3 attacking players last season for £20m, and not given him a penny to replace them.

Nobody in their right mind would want to come here with the ownership as it is.

There is nothing as sure as someone taking the job if it was available

It's about ego and thinking they can do better than the last manager, and we would have a pull factor.

Right now, that's not a particularly high bar

 

[Chris the Blade]

Steve Cooper was there today. He'll be in by Christmas. Could do a lot worse.

 

[54yrblade]

Steve Cooper was there today. He'll be in by Christmas. Could do a lot worse.

Thats interesting. Directors box?

 

[BessemerBob]

There is nothing as sure as someone taking the job if it was available

It's about ego and thinking they can do better than the last manager, and we would have a pull factor.

Right now, that's not a particularly high bar

So lets talk names, who would come here and turn this shitshow around?

Anyone who is on their way up in the game wouldn't touch us with a barge pole.

It'd be a journeyman on the way down, looking for someone to give him a chance.

In the 10/11 season we sacked Blackwell after 3 games and had to put up with Gary Speed who struggled badly before getting a nice easy route out when the Wales job came up, and then got replaced by the less than illustrious Micky Adams. The sad thing that season was even though Blackwell wasn't to everyones liking, and his time looked like it had ran its course, I still think if we had stuck behind him then we might just have huffed and puffed our way to safety, and this season is looking to be remarkably like that one.

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

Norwich and Middlesbrough unlike us, have a stable board. Ours have been a car crash. Sold our best 3 attacking players last season for £20m, and not given him a penny to replace them.

Nobody in their right mind would want to come here with the ownership as it is.

Norwich and Boro both get rid of managers when it’s clear it isn’t working… that’s the difference

 

[BessemerBob]

Norwich and Boro both get rid of managers when it’s clear it isn’t working… that’s the difference

Boro were actually top two when Rob Edwards left them to go Wolves last season.

 

[UddersBlade]

Steve Cooper was there today. He'll be in by Christmas. Could do a lot worse.

???? How come no one else has picked up on that?????

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Steve Cooper was there today. He'll be in by Christmas. Could do a lot worse.

Cooperman would be a good shout at this point.

Bonus points for me giving some wanking material for the discerning weirdos on the forum!

 

[Wards]

When all the shit hit the fan a couple of weeks ago I was of the thinking that Wilder was the safe pair of hands and that I wouldn’t want anyone else to guide us through this period. Now I think I’ve done a full 180 on it and think getting shut of him might be the only way to save the season. Amazing that everyone else seems to be able to see the deficiencies and the one man that needs to seemingly can’t.

Based on the last 3 performances v Cardiff, Bolton and Norwich it’s fair to say I’m pretty worried by what we’ve seen. I find it incredible that we’ve known we’d be in this division since about March and this is the best we can put out? Granted we’ve sold some good players but we look shocking.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Boro were actually top two when Rob Edwards left them to go Wolves last season.

He is available..just seen him being a pundit on MOTD.

Think Wilder will be gone during the international break..after seeing us lose the next five games in Sept.

 

[54yrblade]

So lets talk names, who would come here and turn this shitshow around?

Anyone who is on their way up in the game wouldn't touch us with a barge pole.

It'd be a journeyman on the way down, looking for someone to give him a chance.

In the 10/11 season we sacked Blackwell after 3 games and had to put up with Gary Speed who struggled badly before getting a nice easy route out when the Wales job came up, and then got replaced by the less than illustrious Micky Adams. The sad thing that season was even though Blackwell wasn't to everyones liking, and his time looked like it had ran its course, I still think if we had stuck behind him then we might just have huffed and puffed our way to safety, and this season is looking to be remarkably like that one.

No. Let's not because thats ridiculous, you and I are only 'punters' and don't have an inside track on who is or might become available.

Rosen said he respects Chris. Great. I should hope he does, given that he extended his contract, or was that a vote of confidence? And we know how that can end.

Interesting that since Alan Knill left we appear far more disorganised and are shipping shots/ goal threats at a dramatic rate in recent games.

The real power behind the throne perhaps?

It's a mess and looks desperate. Someone needs to grip it, fast, and I don't believe that our current coaching team can get the best from what's here. That second half was a shambles yesterday.

Tuesday is huge now, and Sunday looks that way too.

The pressure is already on.

 

[PhucCancer]

So lets talk names, who would come here and turn this shitshow around?

Anyone who is on their way up in the game wouldn't touch us with a barge pole.

It'd be a journeyman on the way down, looking for someone to give him a chance.

In the 10/11 season we sacked Blackwell after 3 games and had to put up with Gary Speed who struggled badly before getting a nice easy route out when the Wales job came up, and then got replaced by the less than illustrious Micky Adams. The sad thing that season was even though Blackwell wasn't to everyones liking, and his time looked like it had ran its course, I still think if we had stuck behind him then we might just have huffed and puffed our way to safety, and this season is looking to be remarkably like that one.

Brendan Rogers anyone