CONFIRMED Callum O'Hare - signs for Wrexham

[Bladesman101]

I personally see this as an opportunity. O’Hare is a limited footballer and I’m not too upset to see the back of him. The football we are playing has O’Hare as the key ingredient so if you remove him then surely we have to play a different way. Him, like brooks and hamer, had flaws and I’d rather cash in personally. Obviously we now have to ensure we don’t go down

 

[Jim Mcdonald]

Tin hat time....

He doesn't fit with how we're going to play this season so getting as much as we can is the best option here.

For those hard of thinking, we've been stocking up on midfielders of a certain profile (total opposite of COH) for an obvious reason.

Losing COH before he leaves on a free is good business if he doesn't fit with how we're going to play.

It is more a pattern emerging of selling the best players and not replacing them with any future salable asset. This kind of thinking is short term and bad for business in the long run. All while owing the former owner for the purchase of the club... I'd argue you'd have to be pretty hard of thinking to view this in any positive light.

 

[Jim Mcdonald]

If this is true, which it probably is...why would you sell COH. Let him go in January when you've got a chance of getting a replacement in.

Its bonkers that we sell players without anyone lined up. The same happened when we sold Moore, it wasn't until Wilder brought Bamford in that we created competition again.

Because the owners are desperate for income...

 

[Greenwich Blade]

I can't see any positives in this at all. I am closer to being done with football than at any other time in my life.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

Is any of that backed up with any tangible facts? Do you have insider info maybe? Or are you just angry and lashing out?

Understand the anger towards the owners, but let's not make stuff up

Just read his post again, which bit do you think he is making up ?. I would say he was pretty spot on.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Because the owners are desperate for income...

I also think we've made a rod for our own backs with the sale negotiation. From what you read Wrexham's first offer was half of their final....we've probably said we want £7m to put them off and they've gone 'ok' & now we've not got a replacement. Crazy.

I presume COH is on big ish money based on him signing for us on a free & we competed against a few at the time.

 

[ATL Recs]

£7M for our only CAM isn’t silly money.

No but he cost us nowt and a decent but not silly fee

 

[NerdyBlade]

Just read his post again, which bit do you think he is making up ?. I would say he was pretty spot on.

We’re basically a rudderless ship.

It’s been left to the guy who picks the teaM to basically take care of the entire shortfall with little desire to help (pay) or own the prior mistakes from above.

This makes absolutely no sense.

The fact they don’t even address the fans makes them the most cowardly owners we’ve ever had.

What are we wanting them to address us about? Are we wanting a statement every 5 minutes?

They’ve literally not lifted a finger to help the manager and playing staff all summer. Any wages probably taken care of by those departing and any bid being considered seems merely a delay to being accepted.

This is implying that we're only paying wages by making sales, which won't be the case. To say so with certainty would require insider knowledge

The fact they entered an agreement with the Prince and have seemingly reneged on it is disgusting. They’ve should both. E struck off, banned from football and forced to sell.

Not how anything works.

It’s absolutely appalling the disdain they have treated the fans with.

Again - they're owners, not fans. What are you expecting from them?

 

[Zeblades34]

Wrexham have a better squad than us. Fucking. Wrexham.

 

[Bladesman101]

Wrexham have a better squad than us. Fucking. Wrexham.

It’s not normal Wrexham tho is it, it’s a financial
Powerhouse as they’ve been bought.

 

[Hallamboy87]

Have put a decent bet on us getting relegated. Gives me a positive spin if we do as get a fair amount back.

Cant see us doing well at all and not upgrading in January.

Only positive this window is keeping Peck. But then he will leave for a reduced figure when he found out to be bang average next summer. Should have cashed in on him while we could.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

It is more a pattern emerging of selling the best players and not replacing them with any future salable asset. This kind of thinking is short term and bad for business in the long run. All while owing the former owner for the purchase of the club... I'd argue you'd have to be pretty hard of thinking to view this in any positive light.

There's more nuance to that. As he came on a free during the parachute payment years, I'd guess on a £ per week basis, he was our top earner. Shifting Hamer and COH will be financially extremely beneficial....

In terms of assets, I'd suggest Cooper, Peck, Seriki, One, Burrows and if Baptiste can establish himself - we're well stocked on that front....

 

[HIBGIA]

Have put a decent bet on us getting relegated. Gives me a positive spin if we do as get a fair amount back.

Cant see us doing well at all and not upgrading in January.

Only positive this window is keeping Peck. But then he will leave for a reduced figure when he found out to be bang average next summer. Should have cashed in on him while we could.

That's not for me personally, but can see the 3-1 odds getting some interest now.

 

[Jim Mcdonald]

There's more nuance to that. As he came on a free during the parachute payment years, I'd guess on a £ per week basis, he was our top earner. Shifting Hamer and COH will be financially extremely beneficial....

In terms of assets, I'd suggest Cooper, Peck, Seriki, One, Burrows and if Baptiste can establish himself - we're well stocked on that front....

Beneficial to who? To Sheffield United or is it plugging financial holes that the owners have created? I would agree it to be good business providing a percentage is invested in a player with potential to grow, or even investing in club infrastructure? Do we believe that is what is happening?

 

[ancientblade]

Have put a decent bet on us getting relegated. Gives me a positive spin if we do as get a fair amount back.

Cant see us doing well at all and not upgrading in January.

Only positive this window is keeping Peck. But then he will leave for a reduced figure when he found out to be bang average next summer. Should have cashed in on him while we could.

i still think weve enough in the squad not to get relegated and would never bet against my own team utb

 

[Cassis]

I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m gutted Cal O’Hare is leaving, doubly gutted it’s to Wrexham

 

[AdamSufc1997]

How depressing fucking Wrexham has a way better squad than ours. They can attract anyone while we attract 2 cowboys to buy us

 

[Notts Blade 123]

Why the hell would you sanction a move without a replacement? What other clubs do this. You look around the window and other clubs are moving for a player simultaneously to one leaving. Yet again we have zero plan. Absolutely disgraceful.

 

[Vass Borbokis]

That's not for me personally, but can see the 3-1 odds getting some interest now.

Makes the 40/1 some of us got a few weeks back seem almost criminal

 

[Champagneblade]

This makes absolutely no sense.

What are we wanting them to address us about? Are we wanting a statement every 5 minutes?

This is implying that we're only paying wages by making sales, which won't be the case. To say so with certainty would require insider knowledge

Not how anything works.

Again - they're owners, not fans. What are you expecting from them?

1. Rather than putting in some of their own actual money like every other football club owner does, they want it all to come from designating the playing squad. They are continuing little to nothing to the shortfall and expect Chris to sort it all via transfers.

2. Wanting a statement every 5 minutes? They literally make no engagement at all, don’t communicate anything about strategy or identity at all. I couldn’t even tell you what Helmy sounds like. I don’t want Storch but something in between.

3. If they fail to satisfy their commitments it could leave them banned form football. The exact same happened to Chansiri.

4. I expect communication to the fans, the paying customers. An explanation as to why they are showing such little ambition vs other clubs.

Football isn’t the same as other businesses. It’s normal for owners to act as custodians and update the fans of their vision for the club. What the plan for the Academy? The training ground? Etc.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I'm expecting us to go down

 

[blackydog]

Not a ST holder but unfortunately already have a ticket for tonight so I feel obliged to go but its the last thing i feel like doing. There have been so many downs supporting this club over many years and now another massive downer. It's not just the selling of one player but the cumaltive effect of the decisions made by these shysters over the past 18 months. i havenever considered myself a quitter but I really now have had enough. I feel for all those who have committed by buying season tickets

I've felt disillusioned the past 2 seasons, little entertainment value. Didn't seem any point renewing my ST.

 

[NerdyBlade]

1. Rather than putting in some of their own actual money like every other football club owner does, they want it all to come from designating the playing squad. They are continuing little to nothing to the shortfall and expect Chris to sort it all via transfers.

Can you prove that they haven't put their own money in? And what are you expecting them to do with regards to the shortfall? If it doesn't get filled, we suffer - so what are you expecting them to do?

2. Wanting a statement every 5 minutes? They literally make no engagement at all, don’t communicate anything about strategy or identity at all. I couldn’t even tell you what Helmy sounds like. I don’t want Storch but something in between.

How often did PA give statements outside of ramblings on TalkSport?

3. If they fail to satisfy their commitments it could leave them banned form football. The exact same happened to Chansiri.

Has there been any inkling that they're even remotely close to failing to fulfill their footballing commitments?

4. I expect communication to the fans, the paying customers. An explanation as to why they are showing such little ambition vs other clubs.

Do you see that sort of communication from your Blackburns, Swansea, Stoke?

Football isn’t the same as other businesses. It’s normal for owners to act as custodians and update the fans of their vision for the club. What the plan for the Academy? The training ground? Etc.

But it is a business - they don't owe us anything. Its horrid, and its wrong - but they don't.

As I've said, I'm not happy with them - but we need actual, tangible issues to raise instead of making things up

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Beneficial to who? To Sheffield United or is it plugging financial holes that the owners have created? I would agree it to be good business providing a percentage is invested in a player with potential to grow, or even investing in club infrastructure? Do we believe that is what is happening?

Time will tell. I'm guessing BBD and Phillips aren't cheap, and if the Dore development is to progress, that too won't come cheap...

 

[jimmymuir]

Think we have enough quality to be alright currently, but if we get the 12 points deducted, then we're gone.

 

[SELondon_Bladette]

I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m gutted Cal O’Hare is leaving, doubly gutted it’s to Wrexham

I feel exactly the same mate, really bloody deflated by the news.

 

[Booker4]

Wrexham are in the top 2/3 of spenders in the league. It doesn't excuse us selling him if we've no decent replacement but time will tell on that.

 

[Blade56]

Wrexham are in the top 2/3 of spenders in the league. It doesn't excuse us selling him if we've no decent replacement but time will tell on that.

Asset stripping doesn’t require excuses

 

[YES Blade]

Surely we’ve known for a while that O’Hare could go, so why haven’t we got a replacement lined up? If it’s a financial issue, then why spend money on Choudhury? An attacking midfielder/winger has always been a higher priority than another defensive midfielder.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Wrexham are in the top 2/3 of spenders in the league. It doesn't excuse us selling him if we've no decent replacement but time will tell on that.

They’ll get rid of Parkinson soon if results don’t pick up, you don’t go around throwing £20-30m at a team and let a league one manager over see them