Carrow Road. Hope this helpsWhere was he playing ?
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Carrow Road. Hope this helpsWhere was he playing ?
It’s known as being human. When you’re a fan of the club you manage it must be three times the hurt.It's called leadership mate.
Not in the slightest ,Carrow Road. Hope this helps
It's immediately obvious this isn't true without even thinking about it.People won't leave if they are properly compensated.
We've been a selling club since long before I began in the late 90s, as you say it's how a club like ours survives. Some sales do feel like they run a bit deeper though.Some of those are just selling players as all clubs have to. Not every sale is that deep, we really need to get used to the fact that we have to sell players to survive financially.
The most ridiculous one was Deane/Fjortoft on the same day.
I really don’t see why any issue with Wilder right now given the season isn’t underway.I’m not sure how any of this lands at Wilder’s door. He’s arguably the safest pair of hands we could have during a financially messy transition. Any squad needs a blend of youth and experience, and Rothwell and Bamford are perfectly reasonable additions especially on frees.
It’s obvious the owners need to raise money just to keep the lights on. That’s the reality. Hamer who you’ve not mentioned - was in the final year of his deal and wanted out. From what Wilder’s said, Brooks also pushed for a move.
Wilder isn’t sat there saying, ‘Sell everyone, bring nobody in, and I’ll somehow make it work.’ He’s saying, ‘If you have to sell our best players, fine but you need to give me some proper replacements’ That’s a completely fair stance.
You only have to look at Newcastle, some of the richest owners in the world, yet they’ve still gone ahead and sold pretty much all of their best players.I really don’t see why any issue with Wilder right now given the season isn’t underway.
Whats be actually done wrong?
He came back after the window was shut. Kept us up. We had a little flutter with the top six but in honesty the staff were playing catch up too much both in terms of points and also mentality.
This summer we clearly had to raise money. The squad is top heavy. We got an offer of 8-10m for Brooks which isn’t insignificant in terms of keeping the lights on.
Now if he got a similar offer for Chong and McGuinness and then opted to sell Brooks anyway, I’d get the backlash. But he’s managing through a situation. We’ve got multiple players who we’d like to offload to free up wages but we can’t.
You’ll genuinely have fans who say we shouldn’t have sold Brooks we should have waited and then others say we should have sold Hamer earlier so we could make moves. It’s simply impossible to please the fanbase like that.
I’m not averse to criticising Wilder, he’s got a habit of fixating on one player and not shifting; Abdullah said the same on Ramsdale. I didn’t like the Brewster deal for that money and I didn’t like the Cannon deal although in the case of the latter it felt like the Board said they could get him would Wilder be keen rather than Chris hotly pursuing him.
We just need three players in to really make the team tick and they will likely be loans. We’ve only one loan so far anyway.
For all the criticism of youth, it was good to see Oné come on and make his mark yesterday.
It’s time to rally behind the manager and the players now.
Some very good points.You only have to look at Newcastle, some of the richest owners in the world, yet they’ve still gone ahead and sold pretty much all of their best players.
Some fans on here are dragging up old transfer sales like they were massive turning points that changed the future of the club.
Brooks was probably sold with the thinking that he wasn’t one we expected to lose, but he’s hit‑and‑miss, we can replace him, and moving him on helps us keep a couple of others we actually thought we’d have to sell. That’s just sensible squad management.
Hamer is another one where people think they know his “true value” because they’ve played football manager. In reality, there was no other interest, and the club’s policy is simple; we don’t let players walk for free if we can avoid it.
And honestly, I don’t think Hamer leaves as big a hole as some make out. Sometimes you’re a better collective without a supposed “star” player. He struggled with fitness, rarely lasted 90 minutes, his discipline wasn’t great, and he couldn’t get around the pitch the way we needed or the way Wilder likes his teams to play.
Yes, the good bits were brilliant, the magic out of nowhere, the 20–25 yard screamers; I loved all that. But it’s still not a bad sale, and it’s definitely not the end of United.
A thousand times thisI fucking went out the back door at Wembley and went straight home. Like many other fans who have witnessed the same shit time after time. What’s he supposed to do? “Enjoy” a lap of fucking shame that we’ve shit the bed again?
Can’t fathom it. I was pissed off he was probably more pissed off since he believed we’d have fucked off the hoodoo under his leadership but still failed. Don’t you think that would have hurt him to the core?.
But, no. Lilly livered critics suggest he went out the back door because he was nesh. Utter, utter bollocks. He was as fucked off as I was and wanted no part in seeing Sunderland Lord it off and jizz all over the place.
Honestly. I fucking despair of some of the crap people spout at times. Fucking acting like Gen Z bonded when they’re no where near Gen Z age. it’s pathetic.
Even now that goal by Burrows was such a bullshit decision. How that was seen as clear and obvious I'll never know. There were angles showing the keeper could see the ball when he struck it. It was hit like a rocket. Everyone could have cleared the way to the side of the pitch and there was still no way he was stopping it. Highly subjective and unnecessary intervention; they should have been more pissed off with how poorly they defended the corner.A thousand times this![]()
Are you intentionally looking for a rise using 1 player to support your argument.Seriki was 23 before he looked
Capable
Your point is invalid
You said if they are t good enough at 20-22 they never will beAre you intentionally looking for a rise using 1 player to support your argument.
You only have to look at Newcastle, some of the richest owners in the world, yet they’ve still gone ahead and sold pretty much all of their best players.
Some fans on here are dragging up old transfer sales like they were massive turning points that changed the future of the club.
Brooks was probably sold with the thinking that he wasn’t one we expected to lose, but he’s hit‑and‑miss, we can replace him, and moving him on helps us keep a couple of others we actually thought we’d have to sell. That’s just sensible squad management.
Hamer is another one where people think they know his “true value” because they’ve played football manager. In reality, there was no other interest, and the club’s policy is simple; we don’t let players walk for free if we can avoid it.
And honestly, I don’t think Hamer leaves as big a hole as some make out. Sometimes you’re a better collective without a supposed “star” player. He struggled with fitness, rarely lasted 90 minutes, his discipline wasn’t great, and he couldn’t get around the pitch the way we needed or the way Wilder likes his teams to play.
Yes, the good bits were brilliant, the magic out of nowhere, the 20–25 yard screamers; I loved all that. But it’s still not a bad sale, and it’s definitely not the end of United.
Thanks for clarifying Frank. I stand corrected.You said if they are t good enough at 20-22 they never will be
I used one of their academy teammates to smash your argument to smithereens
The one on one he tucked away with ease on Saturday... for NorwichJust to be clear, we’re losing our minds over a lad who if he could score a clear easy one on one we’d have one of the best scenes the club has ever seen at Wembley. I’ve seen him be hit and miss many times and would be very surprised to see him be a seasoned premier league player. If he was still at the club people wouldn’t be loving him as much as now he’s left
Making it 4-1 against MK Dons? He’s a half decent player but for money we got for him no brainer to sell for me.The one on one he tucked away with ease on Saturday... for Norwich
You make it sound like he’s the only player to have ever missed a chance.Just to be clear, we’re losing our minds over a lad who if he could score a clear easy one on one we’d have one of the best scenes the club has ever seen at Wembley. I’ve seen him be hit and miss many times and would be very surprised to see him be a seasoned premier league player. If he was still at the club people wouldn’t be loving him as much as now he’s left
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