CONFIRMED Wilder contract extension

[PrestwichBlade]

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Talk to fans of clubs outside Sheffield and they see us having had a really good season under Wilder, inexplicably sacking him, having an apocalyptically bad start to last season, getting him back, and him turning it around. At which point the thing that would make us a laughing stock would be not keeping him on.

Most people I speak to outside of Sheffield have no idea who our manager is

 

[FriethBlade]

Well if it betfair say so it must be true.

Dont show your ignorance mate...

 

[FriethBlade]

We’re going to be signing players on deals that last 2 and 3 years.

It’s not ideal for the manager to be selling to them his plan for them and the club when he’s only committed to the project for a single year.

Whether you are a fan or not, if he’s considered the right incumbent at the moment by the Board then having him with a year to run could hamper recruitment.

If a player is coming to play for him then if he’s not here in a year they may not agree to come.

It just offers security all round. It’s 2 years. It’s hardly a banking busting 10 year deal like they have Porterfield.

Fatal flaw in your statement...'we're going to be signing players on deals that last 2 and 3 years'....really? There's no evidence of that yet...and its looking like its loans and frees.

Weird move by owners who sack someone for getting 92 points then award him a contract extension for mediocrity...which is what we were last season. They could easily have waited until Xmas and if it's going alright do it then.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Manager tied down ,new coaching staff ,good hard preseason ,new serious investors in the background best away kit in generations ,pre season match in Germany what more do you all want .utb

 

[Aston max]

 

[Cheesebored]

Dont show your ignorance mate...

Ignorance of what? Betting markets? Not after an argument but if you believe that the squad as it stands at the moment is top 7 your delusional. A couple of decent additions then maybe. FWIW I've been attending GA for 25 years. I know how the markets work and how they can be manipulated.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I mean, I'm sick of the sight of him to be honest, but my only hope is that it provides the stability required to bring about wholesale structural changes to drag the club into the 21st century... let's see

My issue would be, I think it does the opposite. Wilder creates a bit of an 'old boys club' around him.
My perception is that Wilder can be quite difficult and he wants things a certain way, which is a bit of an old school way.

My conclusion then, is that rather than providing a stable platform to progress, Wilder actually holds us back.

Per my previous post, I think he's a safe enough pair of hands at Championship level (as a minimum, he proved that last year).
If the objective is stability in Tier 2, built off the back of selling off youngsters to finance the recruitment of experienced heads that he knows "can do a job, at the level" then fine. He's a reasonable man for that gig.

If the objective is more than that, then I'd have serious questions.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Remember your claim that someone had called him a ham faced cunt on here? That never happened. Probably your low point on here.

Ye it was actually ham faced dinosaur. The next one was çunt. What a devastating low to mix those up.

I see other posters are suddenly suggesting that much of the anti Wilder stuff on here is coming from undercover Pigs. What do you think of that? Is that the case now or is it still the same anti Wilder Cult that has apparently always been here?
There’s such a thing as over egging a pudding.

Some are pigs. Most are incredibly bitter united fans. I find your suggestion that there isn't a big group on here who hate him strange but we've been through this.

 

[Dkc]

Great news. While there are plenty of Wilder-haters behind keyboards (not all of them Blades) CW still clearly has the backing of the majority at the Lane. Plenty are singing "One of our Own". No-one is singing "Wilder Out"

We all know CW has his faults. We were all cursing him after the Oxford and Plymouth defeats the season before last. There no such thing as a Wilder "cult". But most people are aware that he is a very good manager who can produce results on a shoestring budget. People are also aware that we have no right to promotion, and there are plenty of clubs in the division with more money than us. Most fans will be happy if we are competitive next season and are pushing for the play-offs. A few won't be happy until Wilder's gone. Luckily they keep quiet at the Lane (if they go at all).

 

[derfblade.3]

I love Chris.

 

[FriethBlade]

Ignorance of what? Betting markets? Not after an argument but if you believe that the squad as it stands at the moment is top 7 your delusional. A couple of decent additions then maybe. FWIW I've been attending GA for 25 years. I know how the markets work and how they can be manipulated.

Yes ignorance of betting markets. Im not delusional I'm just pointing out what the bookies (who back it with real money to make money and have no bias) think. As well as betfair see odds checker who amalgamate all the bookies and show the best odds. They have us 7th favs to win the league and 6th favs to go up. So let's stop with all this Wilder has no chance of getting us in the play offs as the unbiased bookies and betting public say we should be finishing around 6th or 7th amd I will listen to the collective knowledge of the masses rather than you

 

[Cheesebored]

Yes ignorance of betting markets. Im not delusional I'm just pointing out what the bookies (who back it with real money to make money and have no bias) think. As well as betfair see odds checker below who amalgamate all the bookies and show the best odds. So let's stop with all this Wilder has no chance of getting us in the play offs as the unbiased bookies and betting public say we should be finishing around 6th or 7th amd I will listen to the collective knowledge of the masses rather than you

Ok boss. You do you, I'll do me. Sending a compulsive gambler odds to check seems an odd move. Good luck.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Ye it was actually ham faced dinosaur. The next one was çunt. What a devastating low to mix those up.

Some are pigs. Most are incredibly bitter united fans. I find your suggestion that there isn't a big group on here who hate him strange but we've been through this.

Christ an admission you were wrong. Small steps, small steps.


I find it strange that being a big supporter of CW all you ever seem to do is seek out your own particular version of haters on here. No comment on the new contract, no comments about him possibly being hamstrung in the transfer market due to a possible lack of funding, no concerns that next season will be a struggle this heaping more pressure on him, no thoughts about Knill etc etc. All very odd for such an obsessive.

 

[Roygbiv]

It's all a bit dull really. Evidence is it'll be a tough watch, especially against the better teams but we'll have a few good matches too. Will struggle away from home, especially to score goals. Will look small. slow and unathletic at times.

Honestly, I think I've just had enough of this 'era' in general. I have a very short attention span and I've never cared about the 'one of our own' stuff, even when things were at their peak. The cult of personality, heroic one man against the world idea doesn't really appeal to me either.

I know there's a 'careful what you wish for' response coming because of Selles, but my issue is much more the club direction than the first team manager. Feels stale, lacks innovation etc.

Hopefully, there's an exciting season left in it, hover around the top half, score some goals etc. UTB

Sums it up for me. It's just so thoroughly boring and uninspiring. He's not a bad manager and he does deserve another season based on the last one but it's hard to get excited. It's pretty obvious we're going nowhere as a club. It could be worse as we saw with Selles but I'm struggling to motivate myself regarding United at the moment. Hopefully Wilder manages to pull something magical off again but I think those days are long gone personally.

 

[Rodley]

“He’s got a new contract!?”

 

[Bartleby]

Manager tied down ,new coaching staff ,good hard preseason ,new serious investors in the background best away kit in generations ,pre season match in Germany what more do you all want .utb

have I missed summat??

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

It's all a bit dull really. Evidence is it'll be a tough watch, especially against the better teams but we'll have a few good matches too. Will struggle away from home, especially to score goals. Will look small. slow and unathletic at times.

Honestly, I think I've just had enough of this 'era' in general. I have a very short attention span and I've never cared about the 'one of our own' stuff, even when things were at their peak. The cult of personality, heroic one man against the world idea doesn't really appeal to me either.

I know there's a 'careful what you wish for' response coming because of Selles, but my issue is much more the club direction than the first team manager. Feels stale, lacks innovation etc.

Hopefully, there's an exciting season left in it, hover around the top half, score some goals etc. UTB

When Wilder first came in, he had real momentum behind him and wasn’t afraid to take risks. I’m a bit conflicted about the news with Wilder you get a safe pair of hands, very much as you’ve described, but you also get a manager whose stock feels like it’s drifting downward rather than rising.

 

[KMC-1889]

Sums it up for me. It's just so thoroughly boring and uninspiring. He's not a bad manager and he does deserve another season based on the last one but it's hard to get excited. It's pretty obvious we're going nowhere as a club. It could be worse as we saw with Selles but I'm struggling to motivate myself regarding United at the moment. Hopefully Wilder manages to pull something magical off again but I think those days are long gone personally.

Last enjoyable season the Hecky promotion season and cup run? It's completely understandable that some are a bit fatigued with it.

Will be another season of seeing how late we leave the pub to get to the ground

 

[LBA_Blade]

The only reason this makes sense is that Wilder isn’t looking too short term i.e. next summer, although it is a bit of a bizarre thing to extend his contract without us kicking a ball in a competitive match hopefully he will be at least looking beyond the end of this season

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Christ an admission you were wrong. Small steps, small steps.


I find it strange that being a big supporter of CW all you ever seem to do is seek out your own particular version of haters on here. No comment on the new contract, no comments about him possibly being hamstrung in the transfer market due to a possible lack of funding, no concerns that next season will be a struggle this heaping more pressure on him, no thoughts about Knill etc etc. All very odd for such an obsessive.

I'm not a Chris Wilder obsessive it's the hatred for him I genuinely can't understand. I dont seek them out they're all over every thread.

I have many concerns and thoughts on next season but not worth discussing with you.

 

[Keen Blade]

It is possible to be against this extension without eye popping madness as you describe, and ultimately you’ve highlighted why some on here don’t welcome this news.

Wilders reappointment HAS divided the fanbase, and made people resort to petty shots on both sides.

I was against him coming back, and an extension to that contract doesn’t change my mind.

Does that mean I hate him and everything he’s previously done? No. It does mean however that I had concerns in the 92pt season, and despite being in charge for the vast majority of last season there were clear signs that his “spark” had gone. We made every team look like prime Barcelona, and despite a run of a few results in the middle, we were largely clueless.

It’s not all down to him obviously, and he steadied the ship somewhat, but those issues remain this season as to which he is a part of.

We’ve reverted back to type when the Selles experiment failed, despite him having a total of six games in charge. Promotion last season was unlikely after the start, but our season was buried with ten games to go.

We’ve now shipped out a developing player in Brooks, another who is rumoured to have some sort of issue with CW and vice versa behind the scenes.

It’s rinse and repeat and hope for the best, and it’s neither exciting or inspiring to look ahead to another now three seasons to see what happens.

But let’s not tarnish everyone with the same brush that wanting a fresh approach somehow means we’re against the club as a whole.

I don’t want the club to fail and will support them regardless, but news like this reinforces that our owners are terrified of making the wrong decision. They’ve looked at last season, now we’re arguably weaker and said “yep, that’ll do”.

As for CW, he doesn’t need to do too much. If he succeeds, great, if he fails he’ll get a larger payout until they come back again next time around.

You've nailed it with
"What motivation does CW have ?".
He's in easy street , either way.
His relationship with the club is now jaded and his performance over the last two years of parachutes is questionable to say the least.
We are stuck in a subtle rut , a time-warp or "2016-20 era"-warp.
And my comments are more about the structure & strategy than about the personalities.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Thanks for your support

Cheers mate support the club not the manager

 

[Bladeloyal]

have I missed summat??

Well Tim Ryan new director his mother passed away last year she was worth 3.9 billion dollars

 

[PrestwichBlade]

My issue would be, I think it does the opposite. Wilder creates a bit of an 'old boys club' around him.
My perception is that Wilder can be quite difficult and he wants things a certain way, which is a bit of an old school way.

My conclusion then, is that rather than providing a stable platform to progress, Wilder actually holds us back.

Per my previous post, I think he's a safe enough pair of hands at Championship level (as a minimum, he proved that last year).
If the objective is stability in Tier 2, built off the back of selling off youngsters to finance the recruitment of experienced heads that he knows "can do a job, at the level" then fine. He's a reasonable man for that gig.

If the objective is more than that, then I'd have serious questions.

I did say my only hope . I think my underlying concerns largely mirror yours though unfortunately

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm not a Chris Wilder obsessive it's the hatred for him I genuinely can't understand. I dont seek them out they're all over every thread.

I have many concerns and thoughts on next season but not worth discussing with you.

Or anyone else it would seem looking at the number of posts relevant to my point.


I wonder whose wife you are though. Your bitchiness is way out there

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Or anyone else it would seem looking at the number of posts relevant to my point.


I wonder whose wife you are though. Your bitchiness is way out there

Ye not many on here who are interested in actual discussion. Just desperate to get their shit peroni and pashun jokes in.

Weirdly personal from you again

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Grow up. Just because I'm not happy with a decision doesn't mean I don't love the club any less than i did previously. I support SUFC, not CWFC.

Was merely meant as a light-hearted riposte. I've said elsewhere that I'm actually very neutral on Wilder as now constituted, but I do find the hate-filled bile towards him somewhat needless and disturbing,

Rest assured I'll never grow up. I hit 60 this year but I still buy Viz and find Beavis & Butt-Head funny.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Sad cunt actually hope you’re either Chris or one of his close mates, otherwise you’re even more fucking sad that it already seems

Have your parents/guardians not warned you about the dangers of meeting strangers from the internet?

Both long-since dead, sadly, but were they still with us, I'm sure they'd reassure me that there is no need to fear the nesh keyboard warriors of the world. Off you run, now.

 

[Torrix1889]

Was merely meant as a light-hearted riposte. I've said elsewhere that I'm actually very neutral on Wilder as now constituted, but I do find the hate-filled bile towards him somewhat needless and disturbing,

Rest assured I'll never grow up. I hit 60 this year but I still buy Viz and find Beavis & Butt-Head funny.

I don't "hate" Wilder at all and as long as he is in charge of United he and the players will have my full support. I might not sing his name and I do wish the Club would start to move on but it is what it is for now.

The last 2 seasons, (largely under Wilder) have produced some terrible football, the odd purple patch but I can count on one hand the amount of times I have been to a game and come away thinking we played really well today. Yes you can argue it is a results business but we have been subjected to some utter dross and there's nothing happening, certainly at the moment, to convince me that this season will be any different.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

It is possible to be against this extension without eye popping madness as you describe, and ultimately you’ve highlighted why some on here don’t welcome this news.

Wilders reappointment HAS divided the fanbase, and made people resort to petty shots on both sides.

I was against him coming back, and an extension to that contract doesn’t change my mind.

Does that mean I hate him and everything he’s previously done? No. It does mean however that I had concerns in the 92pt season, and despite being in charge for the vast majority of last season there were clear signs that his “spark” had gone. We made every team look like prime Barcelona, and despite a run of a few results in the middle, we were largely clueless.

It’s not all down to him obviously, and he steadied the ship somewhat, but those issues remain this season as to which he is a part of.

We’ve reverted back to type when the Selles experiment failed, despite him having a total of six games in charge. Promotion last season was unlikely after the start, but our season was buried with ten games to go.

We’ve now shipped out a developing player in Brooks, another who is rumoured to have some sort of issue with CW and vice versa behind the scenes.

It’s rinse and repeat and hope for the best, and it’s neither exciting or inspiring to look ahead to another now three seasons to see what happens.

But let’s not tarnish everyone with the same brush that wanting a fresh approach somehow means we’re against the club as a whole.

I don’t want the club to fail and will support them regardless, but news like this reinforces that our owners are terrified of making the wrong decision. They’ve looked at last season, now we’re arguably weaker and said “yep, that’ll do”.

As for CW, he doesn’t need to do too much. If he succeeds, great, if he fails he’ll get a larger payout until they come back again next time around.

A very reasoned, thought-out, well put-across response. I might not agree with it all, but I absolutely understand the thinking here.