What's keeping the failure wilder in a job?

[Sheffsteel]

Dinosaur manager with that stupid teeth grin.

Ruining the club so he can sign up injury prone players.

Football is never that simple.
All the top quality players are expensive and demand unreasonably high wages…..which next season we can’t afford.

Injury prone players are cheap….that and loans are the easiest way to bring in quality players without the big financial commitment.

Remember David McGoldrick? Quality player but injury prone so very few clubs were interested in him.
We offered a relatively low salary and he ended up being one of our better players in decades.

Remember our goalie Michael Cooper, always highly rated but many think he’s injury prone.
We saw the opportunity of bringing in quality at a relatively low cost and took the risk.
Cooper was brilliant last season, this season he’s been very average but it seems he was injured.
So the jury is still out whether Cooper was a great signing or not.

Injury prone players are gambles but I suppose the club are thinking they could end up with another Didzy.

 

[metalblade]

COH were dumb enough to bring him back and give him a contract until summer 27. Getting the appointment of Sellés so wrong will maybe have made them wary of another change like a significant number of the fans who are scared of change. The danger is we stand still which in any business means you go backwards. This is why I think Wilder will still be here next season, unfortunately.
After his 92pt season and this season post Sellés there is a growing number of fans who are sick of watching slow sideways football, barmy starting line-ups and substitutions. Add terrible JTW recruitment bringing in players who are not fit and old pro's who are past it with no resale value. A growing number are realising that the club is throwing money down the drain and is going nowhere everything is a short term fix. We can't even say the new training ground and Academy is coming on well, still no spades in the ground. Not hard to see why there is a growing air of apathy around Bramall lane.

 

[103SecondsOfMagic]

Two things :

His sleazy "pally pally" mate Bettis!

The despicable " untruthful" Danny Hall!

Because not everyone belongs to your Insta instant gratification generation

 

[nopigfansintown]

I don't want Wilder to stay long term, but right now, I don't think we should get rid.
The owners gambled badly last season and they are fearful to do it again... and so am I. If the pull the trigger now and get it wrong again, we could be set back absolutely years.

The foundations of the club are still there... just. We have players of value that could be sold to help the rebuild, and i'm sure 2 or 3 will be.

Like him or not, Wilder DOES get the club and he DOES get results. He will (rightly) blame Selles' recruitment for not being able to mount a serious challenge this season, but now he enters last chance saloon - he has 3 summer months to weed out the bad and sign some good.
He will be judged by the owners this coming season and he knows that. It will be his squad and if we're not top 5/6 come Xmas, he'll be treading a fine line. I think if we're lower than that, and the owners back him in the summer, he is out of excuses.

I just hope he finds his mojo. We had a spell November to January where he released the handbrake and we were scoring for fun. I liked that spell. It was great and it felt like his mojo was back. We then got near the play offs and we retreated back into negativity - it's like he has this fear of losing when the pressure mounts which is counterproductive... just go out there and take it to the opposition. The players we have right now are good enough for a top 6 finish if the handbrake had been off all season. It wasn't and it was the negativity in games which ultimately saw us nowhere near... Next season i want the November-January Wilder, or even better - the 2016-2020 version.

We got key injuries and were fucked as we have about 12 decent players. When Jairo got injured we had one decent midfielder on the books. The youngsters have been ran.into the ground and it shows. If Bamford doesn't score...

I agree on your assessment of next season but for different reasons. Wilder is in his last year so a natural parting makes sense as he will assume the position.of 'fall guy'. He's the wall that all the mud of general.unhappiness with the club is aimed at.

The decent players we have will likely be cherry picked and the shite will remain sat on their exorbitant deals as nobody in their right mind will touch them. The scope to reshape is tiny even after the sales. We desperately need Campbell, Cooper and Arblaster to return to their beat levels at United. It's critical. The Davies signing seems to indicate we are banking on Cooper as the money isn't their to fix the GK position. As far as I know only Ryan One has any chance of stepping up from the academy.

It will be deluded fan expectations and the contract situation that does for Wilder. I'd go as far as saying only a top two finish (fantasy land) would save him. Anything else would be presented as failure as last season was(most didn't expect promotion due to pre season/takeover/transfer shit show) and this season was (survival was the aim post Selles/recruitment/fitness shitshow).

Somebody will have to take the blame...

 

[Striker]

By majority do you mean the 100 happy clappers that stayed for the lap of shame on Saturday?

It never ceases to amaze me how some people use the "Happy Clappers" tag to describe fans who don't agree with their opinion. It's meant to ridicule opposing views and somehow inflate their opinion into reality.

The other trick they use is the laughing emoji which is again a way of trying to ridicule an opinion.

In reality it's a very poor attempt at elevating their opinions over others.

Don't fall for it it's an idle way to try and close down opposing views.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

It never ceases to amaze me how some people use the "Happy Clappers" tag to describe fans who don't agree with their opinion. It's meant to ridicule opposing views and somehow inflate their opinion into reality.

The other trick they use is the laughing emoji which is again a way of trying to ridicule an opinion.

In reality it's a very poor attempt at elevating their opinions over others.

Don't fall for it it's an idle way to try and close down opposing views.

I stayed behind Saturday (dont know why) and im no way a clapper

 

[luffenhamblade]

Probably that most people don’t agree with you (yes I know it’s only a couple of hundred votes etc etc blah blah blah). Personally I think it’s time for a change now but I do recognise that I’m in the minority.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I've never heard him say that - and it's a really stupid thing to say, especially in his position.

I noticed a couple of the resident half wits thought my comment was funny. Nobody that anyone would ever take seriously, though.

 

[Loco Blade]

Majority of fans want him, do you think so?

I haven’t met any recently

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

I noticed a couple of the resident half wits thought my comment was funny. Nobody that anyone would ever take seriously, though.

I noticed that one of the “resident half wits” to which you refer has had more interactions with this forum than you have ever had, despite the fact that you seem to live on here recently. Your arrogance does you no favours.
You claim that nobody would ever take them seriously. In that case, why did you even bother to respond?
It’s an open forum, and people are entirely entitled to disagree with your opinions should they so wish, without being branded by you as resident half wits.

 

[Tom Bott]

Totally agree. Leicester's plight is an example of where one poor managerial appointment can lead to another if your recruitment team don't know what they are doing.

Put simply, had CW gone there, after our incompetent decision to remove him, Leicester would be playing in the Championship next season.

But that's not good enough.

They should have been promoted straight back to PL, along with ourselves.

They have a DOF so how could this have happened?

Though he was appointed as a Foxy fox, which according to some is failure in the making.

The fact that they won the PL title under him is irrelevant, two successive relegations prove that you can never appoint anyone with connections from within your own club.

Or that appointing 3 managers within 14 months could have anything less than a positive outcome.

 

[jt64]

I think a lot of blades don’t understand just how real a possibility relegation was this season.

I think most of them do realise that the tooth fairy existing is more realistic

 

[Silky Sabella]

The one thing that is keeping him in a job is called a contract of employment. I also think comments like sleazy and untruthful are unwise

Both words in the English dictionary!

 

[Bladered]

Majority of fans want him, do you think so?

yes

 

[Silky Sabella]

Go and stand on a railway line you thick sad sick cunt !

I just despise personal disgusting abuse on a general forum !

 

[sitwell]

I just despise personal disgusting abuse on a general forum !

I despise Grunters.

 

[CityInPeace]

Lampard, David Wagner maybe Alex Neil amongst a few others

Thomas Frank, McKenna..Nuno at Wolves albeit Wolves had their final payment in 2017-18 and it fed into 3 years.

Malky MacKay, Ian Holloway (twice) albeit these were pre FFP. Lambert, Rodgers.

Billy Davies, Steve Cooper, Bielsa, Phil Brown..Kieran McKenna in 2024, Rob Edwards 2023, Regis Le Bris 2025...

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

Easy question to answer:

1. A fanbase willing to accept mediocrity

2. An ownership scared of their own shadow and

3. His mate, Steve fkin Bettis

 

[Aston max]

Easy question to answer:

1. A fanbase willing to accept mediocrity

2. An ownership scared of their own shadow and

3. His mate, Steve fkin Bettis

 

[Champagneblade]

The fact he took over a side that was going down?

We were as bad as any side other than maybe the pigs when he came back and it took a while to turn us around but he did.

Then you add his previous championship history with us. Anyone else out there with that track record waiting?

With a lower budget coming in, it would be a foolish move by the Board to introduce another variable.

People might have thoughts on Wilder’s ceiling but he floor definitely doesn’t have us dropping into League One.

Until these owner start to build their experience then they’d be better keeping it simple.

How many managers are available with knowledge of how to get a team up to the top flight are going to be kicking around and available this summer, that would be interested?

It is nonetheless a pointless debate at this juncture. He’s the Manager. He’s not going anywhere this summer.

 

[ZLB]

I just despise personal disgusting abuse on a general forum !

To avoid it, stop coming on here pretending to be a blade??

 

[Nick Jansky]

How many managers are available with knowledge of how to get a team up to the top flight are going to be kicking around and available this summer, that would be interested?

Parker & Dyche. Both with better records than Wilder for promotions to the PL. Not that I’d want either of them, but it is nonsense to suggest that Wilder is the only option.

 

[Harrisblade]

Majority of fans want him, do you think so?

Yes

 

[Harrisblade]

We got key injuries and were fucked as we have about 12 decent players. When Jairo got injured we had one decent midfielder on the books. The youngsters have been ran.into the ground and it shows. If Bamford doesn't score...

I agree on your assessment of next season but for different reasons. Wilder is in his last year so a natural parting makes sense as he will assume the position.of 'fall guy'. He's the wall that all the mud of general.unhappiness with the club is aimed at.

The decent players we have will likely be cherry picked and the shite will remain sat on their exorbitant deals as nobody in their right mind will touch them. The scope to reshape is tiny even after the sales. We desperately need Campbell, Cooper and Arblaster to return to their beat levels at United. It's critical. The Davies signing seems to indicate we are banking on Cooper as the money isn't their to fix the GK position. As far as I know only Ryan One has any chance of stepping up from the academy.

It will be deluded fan expectations and the contract situation that does for Wilder. I'd go as far as saying only a top two finish (fantasy land) would save him. Anything else would be presented as failure as last season was(most didn't expect promotion due to pre season/takeover/transfer shit show) and this season was (survival was the aim post Selles/recruitment/fitness shitshow).

Somebody will have to take the blame...

maybe the fans who have unwisely tried deludamol and now see us as HMS Piss The League???

 

[Bladesman101]

How is he a failure?

1st time:
United from 11th in league 1, peaked at 9th in prem and left us bottom of prem. I’d say that’s pretty successful.

2nd time:
Picked a club off the floor and got a tally that would’ve got us promoted most seasons, in the same year Baldock passed away and the club was emotionally on its arse. We lost at Wembley after dominating most of the game and VAR getting involved in a goal I’ve seen be allowed many times this season. That’s football. Sunderland had a bit of the X factor that we lacked I think, probably due to how both sets of fans felt about getting to the premier league. We joked about not wanting to go and they were like us in 2019 where it felt like you’d won the lotto.

3rd time:
Returned to find the club had gotten rid of Moore, Anel, Souza aka the physical spine of his team and didn’t replace a single one of them. Lost every game and didn’t score since the first game. He was able to convince Bamford and Jairo to come in to try and fill the Moore and Souza void and turned Bindon into a decent player after he was slagged off for the first 6 games as a waste. Finished 13th and got us within a conversation of playoffs.

So please, tell me, how is he a failure? He’s had low points and moments of failure yes, but they are outweighed by the successes. So to brand him a failure is, for me, an emotional thing rather than an opinion based on fact.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Majority of fans want him, do you think so?

Nobody knows that. Some, on both sides, like to pretend they do to suit their agenda. What we do know for sure is that the fans are split. But we certainly don’t know how many come down on each side of the argument.

 

[Aston max]

Parker & Dyche. Both with better records than Wilder for promotions to the PL. Not that I’d want either of them, but it is nonsense to suggest that Wilder is the only option.

I'm actually changing my mind about parker slowly, my Burnley supporting mate has said that apparently the players didn't want him to go and he's well thought of on the training pitch
If COH decide a change is needed I just hope they bring in a DOF or similar to work with them .

 

[Silky Sabella]

To avoid it, stop coming on here pretending to be a blade??

Listen here bright spark, prove to me I am not a blade, and prove to me you are

 

[luffenhamblade]

Parker & Dyche. Both with better records than Wilder for promotions to the PL. Not that I’d want either of them, but it is nonsense to suggest that Wilder is the only option.

That's three off the list (if Wilder counts). Happy with that, just wish I could hear some names linked that actually excite!

 

[Nick Jansky]

That's three off the list (if Wilder counts). Happy with that, just wish I could hear some names linked that actually excite!

I wonder how excited Southampton fans were when they appointed Eckert?

I would be excited by either Cleverly or Skiroba. If we’re not going to be going up next season, and I’m not expecting us to, then I’d be looking forward to the football I’d be watching (which, at the moment, despite renewing my ST I’m really not) and hoping to watch something coherent developing for the future.