Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

[Bladesman]

Surprised Wilder's interview wasn't more like this:

 

[sitwell]

Probably not.

His cult are pretty tied in for the long haul now.

A 'cult' ,'Wilderboys' ,keep em coming you freaks. Because some support the club and the manager of a club who rescued a season.

 

[SBSP]

A 'cult' ,'Wilderboys' ,keep em coming you freaks. Because some support the club and the manager of a club who rescued a season.

That doesn’t really make sense.

Supporting the club is the exact reason I want rid of him.

 

[ATL Recs]

Another excellent campaign considering what he inherited following on from an excellent campaign last season amidst a total off field shit show. Not the legendary stuff of the first spell but top management nonetheless . The Bamford and Jairo signings were the masterstrokes this season. They saved us from certain relegation.

Hopefully we can consolidate next season. It'll be a very difficult achievement imo.

saved us my arse we wouldn’t have gone down without Wilder as long as that loser Selles got sacked

 

[Espania blade]

saved us my arse we wouldn’t have gone down without Wilder as long as that loser Selles got sacked

Do you have a Crystal ball I can borrow

 

[nopigfansintown]

A 'cult' ,'Wilderboys' ,keep em coming you freaks. Because some support the club and the manager of a club who rescued a season.

The cult are the anti Wilder minority. They cant manage a salient argument between them.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Do you have a Crystal ball I can borrow

The pigs are currently borrowing it. Apparently they can see Tango with the Champions league trophy four years in the future.

 

[Tom Bott]

That doesn’t really make sense.

Supporting the club is the exact reason I want rid of him.

Imagine if Wilder had been here last summer, he would have signed McBurnie again.

Imagine him and Bamford up front together, it would have been Deane and Agana all over again.

With McBurnie's defensive skills preventing all those set piece cock up's.

We would have walked the division this season, even with the non existent defence we were presented with by AI.

We didn't get relegated though, but let's not give Wilder any credit for that.

Just need a random foreign manager, a different AI model and


lots of luck.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Imagine if Wilder had been here last summer, he would have signed McBurnie again.

Imagine him and Bamford up front together, it would have been Deane and Agana all over again.

With McBurnie's defensive skills preventing all those set piece cock up's.

We would have walked the division this season, even with the non existent defence we were presented with by AI.

We didn't get relegated though, but let's not give Wilder any credit for that.

Just need a random foreign manager, a different AI model and


lots of luck.

I know McBurnie has had a good season but Coventry got 95 points.

I don't think the addition of one player would have elevated us to the top of the table with another 35+ points.

 

[Shadota]

Imagine if Wilder had been here last summer, he would have signed McBurnie again.

Probably. Though the way he was used under Wilder previously suggests to me that we wouldn't have gotten out of him what Hull have this season.

Imagine him and Bamford up front together, it would have been Deane and Agana all over again.

Really? Deane and Agana? Not aiming too high there are you?

Plus, who's to say we'd have still signed Bamford - in your scenario Wilder would have had the entire transfer window to find a striker.

We would have walked the division this season, even with the non existent defence we were presented with by AI.

On what basis? The best defender we had last year has only just come back for the last 3 games of the season. I guess we'd have stuck with good old Jacky Long Throw instead. Because he did such a great job at Wembley.

We didn't get relegated though, but let's not give Wilder any credit for that.

Wilder does get credit for keeping us up. The issue is that, with 41 league games to play, and a sub 10 point gap to make up to safety, avoiding relegation would have been the bare fucking minimum for any manager that had come in, not just CW. Had any manager come in and produced the same season as Wilder had, there would be question marks over their performance.

I find it odd that so many seem to misconstrue disappointment in our recent performance, especially since January, as anti-Wilder rhetoric. It could have been any manager in charge and my sentiment would be the same (as I imagine would that of many who share my opinion).

 

[Tom Bott]

I don't think the addition of one player would have elevated us to the top of the table with another 35+ points.

That's the problem.

Wilder couldn't have signed as many shit players as Selles.AI. Bord.
Or reduced the team into looking like they they didn't even know what sport they were supposed to be playing.
'Just move the ball vertically' but in a horizontal direction and without leaving the ground.


Keeping Jack Robinson would have been better than the defenders which AI chose..

Wilder got 92 points last season (PA got 90) we were short up top, McB and Bamford were the solution.

Now we need a defence.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Shadota , It would be odd if it was just that, but if you think that is the case, you haven’t seen the rather repetitive and tedious anti Wilder posts!

 

[Tom Bott]

Really? Deane and Agana? Not aiming too high there are you?

No both Patrick Bamford and Tony Agana play the saxophone, so both have exemplary taste and levels of skill.
Agana scored one in three for us and Bamford has scored 12 in 28.

Though of course many Blades fans were adamant that we didn't want that Leeds wanker, Wilder out Bamford out..

 

[sitwell]

That's the problem.

Wilder couldn't have signed as many shit players as Selles.AI. Bord.
Or reduced the team into looking like they they didn't even know what sport they were supposed to be playing.
'Just move the ball vertically' but in a horizontal direction and without leaving the ground.


Keeping Jack Robinson would have been better than the defenders which AI chose..

Wilder got 92 points last season (PA got 90) we were short up top, McB and Bamford were the solution.

Now we need a defence.

We would have also had either Keiffer Moore or if he had left, Carlton Morris.

 

[UTB Blade]

Shadota , It would be odd if it was just that, but if you think that is the case, you haven’t seen the rather repetitive and tedious anti Wilder posts!

I've stopped reading his posts, so can't comment on the specific one you're referencing here, but it would be very odd if Shadota hadn't seen the rather repetitive and tedious anti Wilder posts, given that he's usually the one making them.

Which is precisely why I've stopped reading his posts.

 

[Tom Bott]

I know McBurnie has had a good season but Coventry got 95 points.

I don't think the addition of one player would have elevated us to the top of the table with another 35+ points.

How many points did Ipswich get promoted with?

Oh 84, that's just 8 points less than Wilder got us last season.

So we would have required 25 more points to have taken their promotion spot this season.
Yet we lost 18 points in the first six matches under Selles........

Even if we had been promoted though it wouldn't have been entertaining enough or some such new narrative.

Wilder out....

 

[UTB Blade]

How many points did Ipswich get promoted with?

Oh 84, that's just 8 points less than Wilder got us last season.

So we would have required 25 more points to have taken their promotion spot this season.
Yet we lost 18 points in the first six matches under Selles........

Even if we had been promoted though it wouldn't have been entertaining enough or some such new narrative.

Wilder out....

Mate, you'd have more success arguing black is white, hot is cold, or water is dry, than expecting Wilder haters to take on board actual facts that indicate his competence.

"Yeh, ah know everyone sez that black in't white, 'ot in't cowd, 'n watter in't dry, but nobbody's proooved it since 2019, so it dunt count, duz it!"

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

How many points did Ipswich get promoted with?

Oh 84, that's just 8 points less than Wilder got us last season.

So we would have required 25 more points to have taken their promotion spot this season.
Yet we lost 18 points in the first six matches under Selles........

Even if we had been promoted though it wouldn't have been entertaining enough or some such new narrative.

Wilder out....

You said we'd walk the league, not finish 2nd.

And last season we had Souttar, Ahmedhodzic and Souza.

The current squad wasn't getting anywhere near 84 or 92 points this season.

 

[YES Blade]

Imagine if Wilder had been here last summer, he would have signed McBurnie again.

Imagine him and Bamford up front together, it would have been Deane and Agana all over again.

With McBurnie's defensive skills preventing all those set piece cock up's.

We would have walked the division this season, even with the non existent defence we were presented with by AI.

We didn't get relegated though, but let's not give Wilder any credit for that.

Just need a random foreign manager, a different AI model and


lots of luck.

If it’s as simple as you say, then why didn’t Wilder just sign a striker in January to form Deane and Agana MK II?

We’d easily have made up the points dropped and walked it into the playoffs?

 

[luffenhamblade]

If it’s as simple as you say, then why didn’t Wilder just sign a striker in January to form Deane and Agana MK II?

We’d easily have made up the points dropped and walked it into the playoffs?

How often does a Championship side sign a decent striker in the January window?

 

[Roygbiv]

The idea we'd have been promoted if only we'd kept Wilder doesn't stand up to much scrutiny for me. We were the 5th best side in the league post Souttar last season and I don't see why we'd be any higher than that given the losses of Anel and Souza.

Everything suggests we'd have been challenging for the play offs though and I think we'd have likely finished top 6

 

[knowsnowt]

Has the shit bastard gone yet?

 

[metalblade]

That's the problem.

Wilder couldn't have signed as many shit players as Selles.AI. Bord.
Or reduced the team into looking like they they didn't even know what sport they were supposed to be playing.
'Just move the ball vertically' but in a horizontal direction and without leaving the ground.


Keeping Jack Robinson would have been better than the defenders which AI chose..

Wilder got 92 points last season (PA got 90) we were short up top, McB and Bamford were the solution.

Now we need a defence.

Is that the same J Robinson who did his best to gift us a win at Brum by picking a ball up for a goal kick before it had gone out? The same JLT Brum fans hate with a passion because of his mistakes or his sending off's?
Typical United fans wanting the up and at em ill disciplined type of player who likes a tackle with studs showing, they even cheered Lundstram when he cleared out Jack Grealish, no doubt Wilder will want that thug Calvin Phillips remember that tackle on Baldock at bellend road. Pashun and running abart eh! Fucking Hell.

 

[Thrice]

I'm somewhere in the middle when it comes to Wilder. I recognise his ability to rally the players around him and motivate them to some degree. And he does seem to be willing to play solid attacking football when he's not restraining himself for some reason.
But I also think he's too limited in his ideas to outcoach the better managers in the division. Couldn't do it against Parker, couldn't do it against Farke, couldn't do it against Le Bris, and so on.
I don't think he's holding the club back. But he's not really making this team better than the sum of their parts either. And when there's no Hamer next season we'll be missing that x-factor who can make a difference even in games we shouldn't be winning.

 

[Revolution]

Imagine if Wilder had been here last summer, he would have signed McBurnie again.

Imagine him and Bamford up front together, it would have been Deane and Agana all over again.

With McBurnie's defensive skills preventing all those set piece cock up's.

We would have walked the division this season, even with the non existent defence we were presented with by AI.

We didn't get relegated though, but let's not give Wilder any credit for that.

Just need a random foreign manager, a different AI model and


lots of luck.

Meanwhile, back on planet earth, Wilder was here the summer before and we released McBurnie, coming off yet another season with frequent injuries and suspensions, so I think we have to put this one in the Captain Hindsight cupboard.

 

[YES Blade]

How often does a Championship side sign a decent striker in the January window?

Does spending £10m on a striker in the Jan 25 window count?

 

[Shadota]

Shadota , It would be odd if it was just that, but if you think that is the case, you haven’t seen the rather repetitive and tedious anti Wilder posts!

And there's the issue. People are so protective of Wilder, seemingly only because it's Wilder, that any one willing to say "I've been quite disappointed with our performance this season, so I'd like to see a change of manager" is immediately a "Wilder hater".

Let me ask you this: If we had had this exact season that we have just had, but with anyone else in charge besides Wilder, would you be so defensive about it?

I'm not "anti Wilder" at all. He has earned his position as one of the greatest managers this club has ever had, and nobody would argue that. I'm of the opinion that the club needs a complete restructuring from top to bottom, and the current manager would be a part of that for me.

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Let me ask you this: If we had had this exact season that we have just had, but with anyone else in charge besides Wilder, would you be so defensive about it?

How about this? If we had replaced Selles with Lincoln's manager instead. Would you be demanding they were sacked now? Of course you wouldn't.

 

[Blade56]

I've been following united for 65 years and now know a cup,established top flight football and maybe a European campaign won't happen in my lifetime.

Amen to that Am

 

[Shadota]

How about this? If we had replaced Selles with Lincoln's manager instead. Would you be demanding they were sacked now? Of course you wouldn't.

Assuming we had the exact same season; results, performances etc., yes I'd be doubting the ability of any manager who had this squad of players to work with.

41 league games is more than enough time to set a baseline level of performance. And the performance delivered this season, bar a small purple patch at the end of 2025, has not been good enough. We concede comically simple goals on an alarming basis (see the goals conceded vs Blackburn, Preston and Derby as perfect examples), and our offensive play is often sluggish, passive, and seemingly without any defined direction.

It's possible that some of this can be rectified via the signing of other players to replace some underperformers. However, a larger contributing factor is the coaching of players. How poor is the coaching that we haven't improved our primary tactical approach since the managerial change in September?