Souttar

[Matlock Blade]

Soutar should be our first signing.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Soutar should be our first signing.

Not sure how that’s possible.

Google says he’s on £40K to £50K a week until 2028. Next season….we receive just £7 million from Sky TV…..instead of £45 million for 1st year parachute clubs…..reduced to £35 million to 2nd year parachute clubs (like us).

Maybe we can get him on a loan…but like Philips…..if he’s on a lucrative contract….he’s not going to accept a 50% to 75% pay cut to come here.

 

[KMC-1889]

We’ve seen firsthand the drop off with Egan & Ogbene how bad Achilles injuries can affect a player. Nearly two full seasons out is not a player I’m sure I’d be gambling on unless it’s a short term well priced deal.

On the positive side I think he’d be a real good partner for Tanganga and I’d be happy with McGuinness and Zatterstrom as backups.

 

[bakeblade]

Not sure how that’s possible.

Google says he’s on £40K to £50K a week until 2028. Next season….we receive just £7 million from Sky TV…..instead of £45 million for 1st year parachute clubs…..reduced to £35 million to 2nd year parachute clubs (like us).

Maybe we can get him on a loan…but like Philips…..if he’s on a lucrative contract….he’s not going to accept a 50% to 75% pay cut to come here.

That's right, with those wages and his injury record no club is going anywhere near him.

 

[Sheffsteel]

That's right, with those wages and his injury record no club is going anywhere near him.

Agree…..it’s sad really that players like Philips and Souttar are kind of trapped.
They can just sit on the bench….doing very little apart from turning up to training and in the meantime they both become millionaires.

Or they can rip up their contracts and accept a massive 75% pay cut but at least they’ll likely be playing football.
I suppose an option is both Leicester and Man City might let them go for nothing…..and do a deal paying off half their remaining contract.

It would mean that both could accept a much lower salary at Sheff Utd but they don’t lose out too much.
I suppose Souttar needs to think about his international career with Australia too.

 

[KMC-1889]

Agree…..it’s sad really that players like Philips and Souttar are kind of trapped.
They can just sit on the bench….doing very little apart from turning up to training and in the meantime they both become millionaires.

Or they can rip up their contracts and accept a massive 75% pay cut but at least they’ll likely be playing football.
I suppose an option is both Leicester and Man City might let them go for nothing…..and do a deal paying off half their remaining contract.

It would mean that both could accept a much lower salary at Sheff Utd but they don’t lose out too much.
I suppose Souttar needs to think about his international career with Australia too.

There’s no incentive to rip up their contracts. If Leicester go down they’re odds on for admin again and players will be a preferred creditor. They can dig their heels in, or do what half of wendies squad did in the summer and leave on free if they don’t get paid.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Agree…..it’s sad really that players like Philips and Souttar are kind of trapped.
They can just sit on the bench….doing very little apart from turning up to training and in the meantime they both become millionaires.

Or they can rip up their contracts and accept a massive 75% pay cut but at least they’ll likely be playing football.
I suppose an option is both Leicester and Man City might let them go for nothing…..and pay off half their remaining contract.

It would mean that both could accept a much lower salary at Sheff Utd but they don’t lose out too much.
I suppose Souttar needs to think about his international career with Australia too.

The salary that they’re offered reflects their current value to a team though. Taking the first option would be correctly vilified.

If they genuinely want to play games of football then they’d move to a level that they can compete at, and they’d accept the salary that comes with that level.

We’re not talking about them being a L2 player on £100k a year facing going non-league and earning £50k a year, in that case you might stick your contract out. In Phillips’ case he’d be earning £25k+ a week still, granted it’s not £150k but it’s still ok.

 

[jimmymuir]

We'll be raiding Leicester in the summer I think. I'd be amazed if Wilder isn't sniffing around for Choudhury (don't want) and Souttar (do want, if cheap/can stay fit). Shame we're skint as think we'd go for Jordan James too, who Leicester have the option to sign permanently. Would be a great addition, but looks unlikely.

 

[Blademan89]

We'll be raiding Leicester in the summer I think. I'd be amazed if Wilder isn't sniffing around for Choudhury (don't want) and Souttar (do want, if cheap/can stay fit). Shame we're skint as think we'd go for Jordan James too, who Leicester have the option to sign permanently. Would be a great addition, but looks unlikely.

Jordan james shouldn't cost that much, Leicester have an option to buy for £5m.. we should be able to afford that especially if we move some people on & I wouldnt be against selling peck and replacing with James woth spare change to invest elsewhere in the squad.

 

[Varkanoid]

We’ve seen firsthand the drop off with Egan & Ogbene how bad Achilles injuries can affect a player.

Perfect signing for us then. We only sign crocks.

 

[Lane Ender]

Soutar should be our first signing.

That’s just ridiculous he was immense for us but he’s suffered a career threatening injury would be gambling bringing him back

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

That’s just ridiculous he was immense for us but he’s suffered a career threatening injury would be gambling bringing him back

But he's a Bladey McBladey former player. We're only really interested in signing players/managers with a link to us....

Fuck finding the next Anel or Ndiaye and trying to expand that net a little wider!

 

[Lane Ender]

But he's a Bladey McBladey former player. We're only really interested in signing players/managers with a link to us....

Fuck finding the next Anel or Ndiaye and trying to expand that net a little wider!

Yea let’s bring back Norwood or what about Fleck can Duffy still do a bit !

 

[jimmymuir]

Jordan james shouldn't cost that much, Leicester have an option to buy for £5m.. we should be able to afford that especially if we move some people on & I wouldnt be against selling peck and replacing with James woth spare change to invest elsewhere in the squad.

Leicester have the option for £5m, but I expect Rennes to demand more than that to other clubs as he's been excellent for them.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Yea let’s bring back Norwood or what about Fleck can Duffy still do a bit !

Pretty sure i read someone on here advocating for us bringing Lundstram and Egan back on Saturday evening....

We're a weird bunch aren't we!!

 

[luffenhamblade]

But he's a Bladey McBladey former player. We're only really interested in signing players/managers with a link to us....

Fuck finding the next Anel or Ndiaye and trying to expand that net a little wider!

Fortunately thanks to a reply on another thread I now understand the nature of this insult from one blades “fan” to another. I’ve opened up a bingo style card and it’s quite interesting seeing just how sad a few individuals can be. Points can be made without the insults but I guess that’s not as much fun?

 

[Blademan89]

Leicester have the option for £5m, but I expect Rennes to demand more than that to other clubs as he's been excellent for them.

£4m* sorry.... and he has 2 years left on his contract, I cant see them wanting much more especially that he could join them at this bargin price (even though we know that Leicester wont if they go down).

So they cant demand much more as they have potential of losing him for cheaper.

 

[luffenhamblade]

I think the Soutar boat has sailed. Don’t want to keep signing players we know have propensity for injury. I’d like to see us take a chance on younger upcomers from home and abroad and yes that means a decent scouting operation, but please God not AI

 

[Bladesman]

Souttar has been out for a very long time.

It would need to be a very cheap deal weighted in our favour.

In other words don't give him a Tom Davies contract.

 

[Sheffsteel]

The salary that they’re offered reflects their current value to a team though. Taking the first option would be correctly vilified.

If they genuinely want to play games of football then they’d move to a level that they can compete at, and they’d accept the salary that comes with that level.

We’re not talking about them being a L2 player on £100k a year facing going non-league and earning £50k a year, in that case you might stick your contract out. In Phillips’ case he’d be earning £25k+ a week still, granted it’s not £150k but it’s still ok.

Agree but what would most people choose if offered the following

2026-2028 (2 seasons)
Option A: Do you play most weeks (receiving criticism, possible adulation abuse) for £25K a week (£1.3 million a year = £2.6 million)
Option B: Don’t play any 1st team match (no pressure or hassle/ abuse), just turn up for training for £150K a week (£7.8 million a year = £15.6 million).

So in Kalvin Phillips case…..would imagine he wants to play games
But joining us on £25K means he’s losing £13 million…..don’t think anyone would pay £13 million to see game time for 2 seasons.
He’s not going to play for England anymore….wouldnt blame him for basically sitting at home watching his bank balance grow.

Would imagine a deal will be done with Man City….instead of paying him £15.6 million….they might pay him £5 million to rip up his contract.
Then at least Man City have saved themselves £10.6 million and he then becomes a free agent….so we could then afford to offer him £25K a week.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Agree but what would most people choose if offered the following

2026-2028 (2 seasons)
Option A: Do you play most weeks (receiving criticism, possible adulation abuse) for £25K a week (£1.3 million a year = £2.6 million)
Option B: Don’t play any 1st team match (no pressure or hassle/ abuse), just turn up for training for £150K a week (£7.8 million a year = £15.6 million).

So in Kalvin Phillips case…..would imagine he wants to play games
But joining us on £25K means he’s losing £13 million…..don’t think anyone would pay £13 million to see game time for 2 seasons.
He’s not going to play for England anymore….wouldnt blame him for basically sitting at home watching his bank balance grow.

I wouldn’t blame him at all, I just think he should expect to be called out on it.

If it were me, I’d explain to everyone that by moving to another club it would cost me £13m, and if they didn’t like it they’re welcome to get bent!

 

[Sheffsteel]

Yea let’s bring back Norwood or what about Fleck can Duffy still do a bit !

I’ve seen a few mention bringing David McGoldrick back…….and they were being serious too.

 

[Superblades]

No for me, we need to learn our lesson. Good player but injured often and bad injuries, we’ve had more than our fair share of those recently.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

On the positive side I think he’d be a real good partner for Tanganga and I’d be happy with McGuinness and Zatterstrom as backups.

According to reports Zatterstrom didn't look that good in the U21s.

 

[Keen Blade]

Was monumental for us but it would be prudent to see if he can recover his form before signing him. We have seen so many of our own who just never do after serious injury.

For example , Blaster is still nowhere near his best and I'm not sure where McCallum's up to

 

[Keen Blade]

No for me, we need to learn our lesson. Good player but injured often and bad injuries, we’ve had more than our fair share of those recently.

We need to be VERY careful not to let our heart rule our head with Souttar

 

[Sheffsteel]

I wouldn’t blame him at all, I just think he should expect to be called out on it.

If it were me, I’d explain to everyone that by moving to another club it would cost me £13m, and if they didn’t like it they’re welcome to get bent!

Yeh I remember the 1st time this kind of situation was in the media was Winston Bogarde (the Dutch fullback playing for Chelsea).
He was aged 30 (in his prime) and reportedly offered wages of £40K a week, which was massive at the time back in 2000.

He quickly fell out of favour and Chelsea wanted to get rid.
The problem was no other club would offer him wages anywhere near £40K a week, so he would be forced to accept a large pay cut.

It was controversial at the time (and he received stick for it) but he said he was under contract and refused for move for less wages.
Chelsea weren’t happy and banished him to training with the reserves, he gladly accepted this and never played for Chelsea again.

Bogardes 4 year contract ended at Chelsea when he was 34 years old and he never played football for any team again.
Think he kind of retired from the game whilst under contract at Chelsea.

 

[Sheffsteel]

We need to be VERY careful not to let our heart rule our head with Souttar

Agree…..you can just imagine it…we sign Souttar….all our fans are ecstatic…..then next season he’s consistently slow and crap. Guess what?
Most on here would then be saying “sack the manager”, “sack the board”, “which idiot wanted to buy Souttar as it was so obvious he’d not be any good”.

Would imagine any deal would have loads of performance related bonuses covering the club if he’s no longer any good
However if that was the case….then surely he’s be better off staying at Leicester collecting his gauranteed contractual high salary (£40 to £50K a week).

 

[Bladeloyal]

Agree but what would most people choose if offered the following

2026-2028 (2 seasons)
Option A: Do you play most weeks (receiving criticism, possible adulation abuse) for £25K a week (£1.3 million a year = £2.6 million)
Option B: Don’t play any 1st team match (no pressure or hassle/ abuse), just turn up for training for £150K a week (£7.8 million a year = £15.6 million).

So in Kalvin Phillips case…..would imagine he wants to play games
But joining us on £25K means he’s losing £13 million…..don’t think anyone would pay £13 million to see game time for 2 seasons.
He’s not going to play for England anymore….wouldnt blame him for basically sitting at home watching his bank balance grow.

Would imagine a deal will be done with Man City….instead of paying him £15.6 million….they might pay him £5 million to rip up his contract.
Then at least Man City have saved themselves £10.6 million and he then becomes a free agent….so we could then afford to offer him £25K a week.

If man city want him out of the door they will have to pay the vast majority of his contract up .he's not walking out of 15m worth of contract for 5

 

[Keen Blade]

We’ve seen firsthand the drop off with Egan & Ogbene how bad Achilles injuries can affect a player. Nearly two full seasons out is not a player I’m sure I’d be gambling on unless it’s a short term well priced deal.

On the positive side I think he’d be a real good partner for Tanganga and I’d be happy with McGuinness and Zatterstrom as backups.

I've allus bin appeh wiv me Guinness , as long as it's poured correctly