Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

[Nick Jansky]

Good post - but I don't quite agree with him polarising fans, any more than ANY manager will.

After "6 months" , just about everywhere, fans are split on a new manager. The only time I've ever witnessed a truly united fanbase for a prolonged period was after Wilder mark 1. That's not in support if him, just a suggestion as to how rare it is.

Yep, we weren’t polarised for 4 years from 2016. Nor were we for a large part of the Harris and Bassett years. I don’t think we would have been for a lot of Wilson’s reign had it not been for his Pig background. I’m not really sure with Warnock.

But right now we are as polarised as I’ve ever known us. It’s not a very happy fanbase.

 

[scouseblade]

You’re implying that he’s the only person who’s capable of successfully managing Sheffield United.

It’s that sort of mentality that will see the club stagnate.

You absolutely are part of the problem if you think Wilder is the only candidate to manage this football club.

Never said he was. But currently he is. The club needs a total reset in management structure. But done right. Currently i dont trust the yanks to get it right.

 

[scouseblade]

Yep he added more shat in January.

He also added Bamford and Riedewald.

 

[Willglynning]

Never said he was. But currently he is. The club needs a total reset in management structure. But done right. Currently i dont trust the yanks to get it right.

To paraphrase what you just said:

‘I never said he’s the only man for the job- but also he is the only man for the job’.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

get rid of his mates in the scouting recruitment and get that changed up and maybe he can stay

 

[Mendi]

He isn't going nowhere Wilder.

 

[alcoblade]

Yep, we weren’t polarised for 4 years from 2016. Nor were we for a large part of the Harris and Bassett years. I don’t think we would have been for a lot of Wilson’s reign had it not been for his Pig background. I’m not really sure with Warnock.

But right now we are as polarised as I’ve ever known us. It’s not a very happy fanbase.

I don't recognise us being that polarised. I'm in a large wattsapp group, we disagree on everything. I meet loads of Blades in the pub. But everyone supports Wilder. Away from here I haven't heard one fan (away from social media) call for his head this time around. Not all like him mind. And no doubt some want him gone, but it's not nearly widespread in my experience. Obviously your experience is different.

Regarding Bassett - I can remember my dad and his mates refusing to go when he was appointed - they'd been brought up on Currie, Woodward etc and weren't "watching this crap".

When I said 6 months I was being generous. Most fanbases are spilt the minute a manager is appointed.

 

[scouseblade]

To paraphrase what you just said:

‘I never said he’s the only man for the job- but also he is the only man for the job’.

Currently. Without sorting out the entire structure i can only see one thing happening

 

[Nick Jansky]

IWhen I said 6 months I was being generous. Most fanbases are spilt the minute a manager is appointed.

Although Adkins and Jokanovic were pretty much universally welcomed…

Once Bassett got us back to the PL there were very few dissenting voices for 2-3 years, certainly not enough to matter. Most of the fans’ ire was directed at the ownership.

And yes, our respective experiences on people’s views on Wilder clearly differ.

 

[alcoblade]

Although Adkins and Jokanovic were pretty much universally welcomed…

And universally disliked 3 months later

 

[JT89]

He needs to be gone the day after the season ends if not before. Get the new manager in asap so they can have the full pre-season.

Ideal situation would be to bring in the new manager before the end of this season so they can fully access the current squad in games, but may not be possible if the next manager is currently employed elsewhere.

 

[Older Blade]

get rid of his mates in the scouting recruitment and get that changed up and maybe he can stay

Thats where the problem lies, the scouting, the fitness/ conditioning coaches, look at the stats we can't hold a lead to save our lives, it gets to 55/60 minutes and its hot potato football, nobody wants to hold it because everyone is tired, i'd even go as far to say Alan Knill dosent bring much to the table either,

 

[Lane Ender]

You have no idea who might be harbouring negative feelings,mistrust or perhaps resentment toward him.
They are humans with emotions and rarely in life is a group 100% connected.
Of course we all want to believe every last man "loves" him,but I think it's an unrealistic claim for which there can be no empirical evidence.
Unless you have some

You a shrink

 

[United Aren't Back.]

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[georgebernardshaw]

He needs to be gone the day after the season ends if not before. Get the new manager in asap so they can have the full pre-season.

Ideal situation would be to bring in the new manager before the end of this season so they can fully access the current squad in games, but may not be possible if the next manager is currently employed elsewhere.

…..and who would be your choice as the next manager? Careful now….

 

[sitwell]

He claimed to have reconnected the club when he first came and it's one of his lines that he likes to use. Like many, I wasn't disconnected, just tired of the crap style of play we'd been served up.

This forum and others prove that his presence splits the fan base now.

Apparently, those who criticise him or the team are now 'reactionary'.

Reactionary suggests an immediate response to recent events.

His 'style' of play last season blew auto and a PO final after bottling games against our promotion rivals. We lacked fitness, resilience and any ability to cope with pressure.

He's had 2 seasons to sort the fitness problem and ability to attack teams, but hasn't.

Not reactionary at all. People are talking about long term issues that he and his back room team creates. Professional athletes?

Next cliché already in play - it'll be better next season.

We'll see.

Split the fanbase ,theres you and about 10 other empty vessels that post 100 times a day.

 

[JT89]

Split the fanbase ,theres you and about 10 other empty vessels that post 100 times a day.

There are plenty of fans and people within the club, including players, who would be happy to see him gone.

 

[jt64]

…..and who would be your choice as the next manager? Careful now….

Ah, the usual divert it from is Wilder correct to making it Wilder against someone specific

 

[JT89]

Ah, the usual divert it from is Wilder correct to making it Wilder against someone specific

The Wilder lovers are fast running out of ways to defend him so their usual go-to is to demand that anyone suggesting it’s time to move on must suggest a list of suitable new managers. That, or they play the “Sellés” card.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

The Wilder lovers are fast running out of ways to defend him so their usual go-to is to demand that anyone suggesting it’s time to move on must suggest a list of suitable new managers. That, or they play the “Sellés” card.

A bit dramatic that, but a cool way of avoiding the head above the parapet and actually naming a new manager….

They never do…

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Ah, the usual divert it from is Wilder correct to making it Wilder against someone specific

Go on then, your short list of three?

 

[JT89]

A bit dramatic that, but a cool way of avoiding the head above the parapet and actually naming a new manager….

They never do…

Personally I want Wilder gone because I don’t believe he’s the right person to take the club forward based on what I’ve seen watching our games, his signings and listening to his interviews.

However I’ve not suggested who I think should take over because I’ve no idea, outside of our games I don’t watch other football matches or keep up to date with what other clubs are doing. As I’ve no interest or time to do that.

The club should have someone who’s job it is to find suitable candidates, interview them and chose the right manager.

I don’t know who that next manager should be, but I know there’s a very good chance there are better options than the current version of Wilder. If he was as great as some people on here claim, he’d be managing a top 6 premier league club or at the bare minimum wanted by most fans in the EFL/prem. I don’t know fans of any other club who would want him as their manager.

 

[steve26272]

Glad wilder came back, saved us and forever grateful


Mousinho
O’Neill
Unknown for Europe - Boro & Swansea style

Not against wilder, just think he’s hit his ceiling and it’s time for a change

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Personally I want Wilder gone because I don’t believe he’s the right person to take the club forward based on what I’ve seen watching our games, his signings and listening to his interviews.

However I’ve not suggested who I think should take over because I’ve no idea, outside of our games I don’t watch other football matches or keep up to date with what other clubs are doing. As I’ve no interest or time to do that.

The club should have someone who’s job it is to find suitable candidates, interview them and chose the right manager.

I don’t know who that next manager should be, but I know there’s a very good chance there are better options than the current version of Wilder. If he was as great as some people on here claim, he’d be managing a top 6 premier league club or at the bare minimum wanted by most fans in the EFL/prem. I don’t know fans of any other club who would want him as their manager.

That’s fine, you don’t like him and want him gone. This has happened before and we lost our first 5/6 games with a squad that was badly motivated and hardly seemed to know each other. So Chris Wilder comes back, sorts it out with 3/4 signings, and the buzz is back in the team - that’s what’s known as man management.

We’d have to be particularly naive to believe that players and club staff don’t look in on here, so that’s probably why he’s sounding off about a few negative posters who always seem to have a better idea of teams and tactics than him. Some of the shoutbox cognoscenti offer good opinions, but the negative majority are bit like yours…

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Go on then, your short list of three?

What you laughing at, you can’t, can you?

 

[Nick Jansky]

A bit dramatic that, but a cool way of avoiding the head above the parapet and actually naming a new manager….

They never do…

Yesterday I listed three that we could have got instead of reappointing Wilder. They are certainly out there, other clubs manage to find them.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Yesterday I listed three that we could have got instead of reappointing Wilder. They are certainly out there, other clubs manage to find them.

Sorry, mate, I missed that, great that you went the extra yard tho’…

 

[Nick Jansky]

Sorry, mate, I missed that, great that you went the extra yard tho’…

Phillipe Clement, Michael Carrick, Kim Hellberg would all have been gettable when we dumped Selles.

 

[54yrblade]

Three names

Blessin, still at St Pauli. A tough manager of a gritty German team that he's done well with, kept them in Bundesliga playing energetic football. The team are incredibly close to a passionate fan base and he can fetch Jackson Irvine with him too as his captain. I'm sure some massive flags, drums and the occasional pyrotechnics could be thrown in for good measure.

Domenico Tedesco, at Feberbahce. Ex Schalke boss and got them 2nd in Bundesliga.

Dave Challinor at Stockport. I was told (third hand, not ITK!) he was under consideration for our job but signed a contract there instead of here. He can bring Ollie Norwood too although, having seen him play recently, there may be issues with us having to reduce the floodlight luminescence to prevent glare from his teeth, or only play him in day time games. A simple contractual issue.

Other clubs find and poach (steal) bosses all the time.

A team from THE home of football with recent PL experience should have pulling power for a long term project.

Or, we just copy Bodo Glimt. Now that's an exciting side ripping the CL a new one.

Good point today.

 

[JayGreen17]

I would be all for replacing him in the summer if the structure was in place to allow a different type of manager to flourish.
But it's not - and it won't be. So Wilder carries on unless we want a repeat of the Selles disaster.

Agreed, Our owners have no clue about football or how the modern game works, until then Wilder is the best we can hope for, which mighty sad and an indictment of the type of owners we currently have.