Fan Advisory Board

[Blademan89]

That might have been the case in the past but these days we do pay big wages by Chanpionship standards. Whether we are paying them to the right players is a different matter.

Might be more than it used to be but i doubt the we still wont be paying more or around the likes of ipswich, Southampton, Birmingham, wrexham, boro? (Leeds & Burnley last season) & I don't mind that, as we have to be reasonable. Its what stops us doing a pigs, dont spend what you cant afford and all that.

next season your going to be having even bigger teams down with bigger budgets too, its ultimately going to be toughest season next season when you look at the potential teams paying in the league.

 

[TJB.]

This bit worries me.

Our recruitment has been subpar for years and scrapping barrel with recruiting fodder and other clubs cast offs.. thats with parachute money & being in the Premier league, we've also not been prepared to gamble on giving big wages out to attract the better players / free agents.

Its also more of a worry the task at hand with what will be a pretty much turn over of the squad - another rebuild is on the cards.

Seems like Wilder will have to go full del boy mode and be wheeling & dealing.

People have always said a Wilder with no money is better than Wilder with a few quid to spend. That theory may well be put to the test again

It's a huge summer coming up. We'll have to sell to reinvest and will likely have to take a hit on some of the dross we've signed if we're to be rid of them (Matos, Chong etc).

But I don't think you need to spend a fortune to be in and around the playoffs (this season is a prime example of this) and with the right level of building you can be challenging for automatics after two or three seasons.

Patience required, as well as some wheeler dealing.

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

People have always said a Wilder with no money is better than Wilder with a few quid to spend. That theory may well be put to the test again

It's a huge summer coming up. We'll have to sell to reinvest and will likely have to take a hit on some of the dross we've signed if we're to be rid of them (Matos, Chong etc).

But I don't think you need to spend a fortune to be in and around the playoffs (this season is a prime example of this) and with the right level of building you can be challenging for automatics after two or three seasons.

Patience required, as well as some wheeler dealing.

The key for me is, without parachute payments, making sure the contracts are totally workable for the club above all else. After we get rid of the peripheral players this Summer, we ought to be building a squad around our academy players (if we can keep them).

Cooper
Seriki (new CB’s needed)
Arblaster/Peck/Brooks
New forwards needed

The contract lengths and incentives for those new players coming in shouldn’t be any longer than 18-24mths with a promotion incentive built in. If we do go up then a Sunderland-esque transformation needs to happen to stabilise us in prem. This includes the possibility of Wilder leaving too.

I’d like to see us recruit like Boro have, no “big name” players of yesteryear. Just honest championship players with athleticism, who can run and have a some technical ability.

Like someone said, Wilder with little budget is more of an exciting prospect.

 

[Uganda Blade]

The key for me is, without parachute payments, making sure the contracts are totally workable for the club above all else. After we get rid of the peripheral players this Summer, we ought to be building a squad around our academy players (if we can keep them).

Cooper
Seriki (new CB’s needed)
Arblaster/Peck/Brooks
New forwards needed

The contract lengths and incentives for those new players coming in shouldn’t be any longer than 18-24mths with a promotion incentive built in. If we do go up then a Sunderland-esque transformation needs to happen to stabilise us in prem. This includes the possibility of Wilder leaving too.

I’d like to see us recruit like Boro have, no “big name” players of yesteryear. Just honest championship players with athleticism, who can run and have a some technical ability.

Like someone said, Wilder with little budget is more of an exciting prospect.

I agree with the thrust of your argument, but I worry that "building a squad around our academy players" and "Wilder with little budget" are incompatible.
Golden Boys Arblaster and Peck will probably make the cut, but I fear that we'll end up with a squad of "been there done its" who block the pathway for One, Marsh, Sachdev et al, and potentially sideline Seriki and Brooks.
Hope I'm wrong, of course

 

[Gin&Juice]

This bit worries me.

Our recruitment has been subpar for years and scrapping barrel with recruiting fodder and other clubs cast offs.. thats with parachute money & being in the Premier league, we've also not been prepared to gamble on giving big wages out to attract the better players / free agents.

Its also more of a worry the task at hand with what will be a pretty much turn over of the squad - another rebuild is on the cards.

Seems like Wilder will have to go full del boy mode and be wheeling & dealing.

At least they’re being open. I’d rather they be cautious and not land us with high wages for players who can’t be arsed. Wednesday’s shit will be the tip of the iceberg. Leicester, could be next, Derby and Reading as well before

So many clubs in the Championship who have no transparency with their ownership. Wheeling and dealing works well for Wilder, it’s when he has a budget he begins acting like Roy Cropper at the wheel of a McLaren.

Ambition to me would be Cat A. Not selling our youngsters until they’re attracting money we’d be stupid to turn down. Investing in the Kop and modernising the football structure, appointing people who know the game in advisory roles, not poker players.

 

[brownblade]

Has this happened? I think fans should say we don't want extended playoffs.

 

[Keen Blade]

People have always said a Wilder with no money is better than Wilder with a few quid to spend. That theory may well be put to the test again

It's a huge summer coming up. We'll have to sell to reinvest and will likely have to take a hit on some of the dross we've signed if we're to be rid of them (Matos, Chong etc).

But I don't think you need to spend a fortune to be in and around the playoffs (this season is a prime example of this) and with the right level of building you can be challenging for automatics after two or three seasons.

Patience required, as well as some wheeler dealing.

Patience ? PATIENCE ?
I've been patiently waiting for some regime to match Harris's 5 years in the top league.
Harry Bassett almost did it - in very difficult circumstances.
But I'm getting on a bit now and the prospect seems ever more remote in my lifetime.

Time & tide wait for no man

(please don't pile in ... Just a bit of philosophical humour We've been in much worse state than today)

 

[Davalon]

Still no confirmation of who owns the freehold.

 

[Bladesman]

Still no confirmation of who owns the freehold.

LudlamBlade will find out.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Video here

 

[Darren William]

Still no confirmation of who owns the freehold.

You'll get linc

Patience ? PATIENCE ?
I've been patiently waiting for some regime to match Harris's 5 years in the top league.
Harry Bassett almost did it - in very difficult circumstances.
But I'm getting on a bit now and the prospect seems ever more remote in my lifetime.

Time & tide wait for no man

(please don't pile in ... Just a bit of philosophical humour We've been in much worse state than today)

You'll get lynched for asking for owt to much on here lol .

 

[Keen Blade]

You'll get linc
You'll get lynched for asking for owt to much on here lol .

Even with my tongue my cheek ?
That's harsh

 

[SW12 to S12 to S18]

Patience ? PATIENCE ?
I've been patiently waiting for some regime to match Harris's 5 years in the top league.
Harry Bassett almost did it - in very difficult circumstances.
But I'm getting on a bit now and the prospect seems ever more remote in my lifetime.

Time & tide wait for no man

(please don't pile in ... Just a bit of philosophical humour We've been in much worse state than today)

I've arrived at an age where I've realised that I'll never see us win anything in my lifetime. Just the pride in being a Blade is going to have to do.

 

[bertieblade]

Rather be a blade and win nothing but enjoy it; as opposed to being a “supporter” of a plastic or massive club !

 

[ATL Recs]

Though due to finances the better picks we identify that eventually spew into the public domain will get picked off by Wolves WHU Birmingham Burnley Southampton Norwich Ipswich and bloody Wrexham

 

[Uganda Blade]

A rick history?
Is that why we've been signing sick-notes?

 

[UddersBlade]

I’ve just watched this and I have to say for the first time in a few years we seem to have some structure & a plan. And with no parachute money for the first time in 7 years we certainly need it. The fact that the Dore Trg ground is moving forward is the big bonus though. And it seems that Wilder is firmly back in the middle of everything - which with no parachute money - is great news. He’ll need to wheel & deal well in the summer (assuming we don’t go up) to make us competitive against the likes of Wolves, Burnley,West Ham next season.

 

[LudlamBlade]

LudlamBlade will find out.

No news from me I'm afraid

However if you wanna know what's in Snek's fridge, laundry basket or search history then I'm yer man

 

[Silent Blade]

I've been patiently waiting for some regime to match Harris's 5 years in the top league.

From 1961 to 1968 also from summer 1971 to December 1973. Total 9 and half years

 

[Rodley]

Video here

I slightly worry when we see lots of talk about sustainability. You won’t get anywhere in terms of promotion without heavy subsidy from the Ownership and decent transfer spending.

 

[I should coco]

I slightly worry when we see lots of talk about sustainability. You won’t get anywhere in terms of promotion without heavy subsidy from the Ownership and decent transfer spending.

You can't do that.

The EFL squad cost rules won't allow you to do a 'Leicester' or 'QPR#, i.e. getting promoted with a silly budget, then sticking two fingers up. The PL will now enforce any EFL charges, and vice cersa (hence Leicester's deduction this season).

 

[Rodley]

You can't do that.

The EFL squad cost rules won't allow you to do a 'Leicester' or 'QPR#, i.e. getting promoted with a silly budget, then sticking two fingers up. The PL will now enforce any EFL charges, and vice cersa (hence Leicester's deduction this season).

Clubs will just do it or find a workaround.

 

[I should coco]

Clubs will just do it or find a workaround.

Leicester's points deduction last month suggests not.

 

[Dkc]

Thought the reply about putting shelter from the rain in the fanzone was a bit tame. All you need is some tarpaulin. It needn't cover the entire area.

 

[Maidenhead]

Clubs will just do it or find a workaround.

Like Chansiri did?

 

[Rodley]

Leicester's points deduction last month suggests not.

Like Chansiri did?

It’s a fair point. I’m not advocating egregious negligence or in DC’s case, a car crash running out of capital to push the boat out. But to get anywhere you will absolutely have to sail close to the wind. I’m nervous of rhetoric about parsimony because that leads to summers like the Benie Traore one under Hecky - I’ve had a lifetime of that.

 

[Uganda Blade]

It’s a fair point. I’m not advocating egregious negligence or in DC’s case, a car crash running out of capital to push the boat out. But to get anywhere you will absolutely have to sail close to the wind. I’m nervous of rhetoric about parsimony because that leads to summers like the Benie Traore one under Hecky - I’ve had a lifetime of that.

Would you say that Coventry, Boro and Millwall have pushed the boat out? (genuine question)

 

[KMC-1889]

This bit worries me.

Our recruitment has been subpar for years and scrapping barrel with recruiting fodder and other clubs cast offs.. thats with parachute money & being in the Premier league, we've also not been prepared to gamble on giving big wages out to attract the better players / free agents.

Its also more of a worry the task at hand with what will be a pretty much turn over of the squad - another rebuild is on the cards.

Seems like Wilder will have to go full del boy mode and be wheeling & dealing.

Doesn’t worry me at all. Despite three seasons in the prem we’ve not progressed at all in terms of how the club is structured or run.

Let wilder go back to wheeling and dealing, he’s at a lot better at that than spending money. I can’t think of any of his big money signings that have been a success.