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IMG_3687.webpCame across this in my loft … I have no idea if it’s worth anything .. it’s signed (no COA) and I have no idea who ABMFC are… my dad got it me from the Rose and Crown Eckington and I seem to recall ABMFC may have been a football team set up in the memory of someone but I could be wrong
 



View attachment 230537Came across this in my loft … I have no idea if it’s worth anything .. it’s signed (no COA) and I have no idea who ABMFC are… my dad got it me from the Rose and Crown Eckington and I seem to recall ABMFC may have been a football team set up in the memory of someone but I could be wrong

Brilliant bit of memorabilia.

Shame about the film, like.
 
I remember being on the Kop v Man U when they did some filming for the movie. I was only a young lad … if anyone has any info on who ABMFC were I would be grateful
 
View attachment 230537Came across this in my loft … I have no idea if it’s worth anything .. it’s signed (no COA) and I have no idea who ABMFC are… my dad got it me from the Rose and Crown Eckington and I seem to recall ABMFC may have been a football team set up in the memory of someone but I could be wrong
Could it be Allerton Bywater Miners FC?
 
I was at the Man Utd game when they did the filming I think it was the penalty Sean Bean takes and a few other bits. They did the filming at half time. Also the day when they invited fans to come to BL and do more filming there was about few hundred and we had to keep moving seats and filming different parts of the ground to make it look full. At work my mates missus worked for the Jeweller who supplied the rings they used and both Sean Bean and Emily Lloyd were there for the fitting.


Note the "working title" is different.
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Full of northern stereotypes 🤣

Just 'utterly dreadful'.

The whole feature is nicely sanded, cleaned with spirit and has four coats on it.

My mate told me it was being made and I waited with anticipation. Then I sat through it and it was sub-Grange Hill in the script, acting, casting and concept. It was almost enough to make some become Wednesdayites, I heard people say. :)

I know SB is 100% Blade and all that, but the nation winced and then laughed at WSC.
 
View attachment 230537Came across this in my loft … I have no idea if it’s worth anything .. it’s signed (no COA) and I have no idea who ABMFC are… my dad got it me from the Rose and Crown Eckington and I seem to recall ABMFC may have been a football team set up in the memory of someone but I could be wrong
Kin ell mate, be careful it might be valuable..... use tissues next time!

(Sorry! At my age you'd think Id be over such childhood humour, but I just can't help myself) ;-)
 
I was in the Kop that night as well. It was the night Cantona kneed Charlie Hartfield in the balls and Charlie got sent off for pushing him away. I think that was just before half time and film makers had a job trying to get a pissed-off Kop to show enthusiasm for any of Sean Bean's 20 penalties.
Of course that prick Cantona went on to score a screamer into the Kop 2nd half.
 
I was in the Kop that night as well. It was the night Cantona kneed Charlie Hartfield in the balls and Charlie got sent off for pushing him away. I think that was just before half time and film makers had a job trying to get a pissed-off Kop to show enthusiasm for any of Sean Bean's 20 penalties.
Of course that prick Cantona went on to score a screamer into the Kop 2nd half.
My memory of being on the Kop at halftime was that we all jumped up and cheered as each penalty was taken, but they were all misses. By the time he scored one, we had all lost interest. I assume creative editing was applied to the scene. I have never bothered watching the film…yet🤣
 
I was in the Kop that night as well. It was the night Cantona kneed Charlie Hartfield in the balls and Charlie got sent off for pushing him away. I think that was just before half time and film makers had a job trying to get a pissed-off Kop to show enthusiasm for any of Sean Bean's 20 penalties.
Of course that prick Cantona went on to score a screamer into the Kop 2nd half.

My memory of being on the Kop at halftime was that we all jumped up and cheered as each penalty was taken, but they were all misses. By the time he scored one, we had all lost interest. I assume creative editing was applied to the scene. I have never bothered watching the film…yet🤣

My memory is similar to the latter.

I thought that by the time SB finally scored, we'd gone for a pint modernist film noire style, ironic cheering.

SB seemed to take it all in very good heart, IIRC.
 
Tails never fails.

Strangely I was in the away (Man U) end when they filmed as I joined family from Manchester and they had a spare ticket… they enjoyed Cantona that day.

Anyway… I love When Saturday Comes. It has a few flaws (🤣) but I think we should celebrate that we are one of the few clubs to be featured in the fictional cinematic pantheon. Leeds and to a lesser extent Derby have the brilliant The Damned United, Man U have Looking for Eric and United. Then it goes downhill… Man City have There’s Only One Jimmy Grimble, Arsenal have The Arsenal Stadium Mystery and Fever Pitch (great book but terrible film)… and IIRC one of those awful Goal films the player was at Newcastle for a bit (I don’t claim to have got them all but nothing else jumps to mind). If it was a league I think WSC would be up there!

The film was also ahead of its time in its deconstruction of traditional masculinity (including the stripper scene), and interestingly it was directed by Maria Giese who went on to be a key figure in feminist activism, and instigated the ACLU investigations into how women were treated in Hollywood. She appears in this very good 2018 documentary about sexism in the industry:



Any film that has the ghost of a dead miner inspiring the Blades to get to the FA Cup final is oreyt by me!
 



I was at the Man Utd game when they did the filming I think it was the penalty Sean Bean takes and a few other bits. They did the filming at half time. Also the day when they invited fans to come to BL and do more filming there was about few hundred and we had to keep moving seats and filming different parts of the ground to make it look full. At work my mates missus worked for the Jeweller who supplied the rings they used and both Sean Bean and Emily Lloyd were there for the fitting.


Note the "working title" is different.
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Yep, i still have my copy of the script for "a pint o bitter" I used for the audition to play the young Jimmy Muir going into the "boozer" to order a pint. Didn't get the part, but was called back and down to the last 10-12 from a few hundred if i recall
 
Tails never fails.

Strangely I was in the away (Man U) end when they filmed as I joined family from Manchester and they had a spare ticket… they enjoyed Cantona that day.

Anyway… I love When Saturday Comes. It has a few flaws (🤣) but I think we should celebrate that we are one of the few clubs to be featured in the fictional cinematic pantheon. Leeds and to a lesser extent Derby have the brilliant The Damned United, Man U have Looking for Eric and United. Then it goes downhill… Man City have There’s Only One Jimmy Grimble, Arsenal have The Arsenal Stadium Mystery and Fever Pitch (great book but terrible film)… and IIRC one of those awful Goal films the player was at Newcastle for a bit (I don’t claim to have got them all but nothing else jumps to mind). If it was a league I think WSC would be up there!

The film was also ahead of its time in its deconstruction of traditional masculinity (including the stripper scene), and interestingly it was directed by Maria Giese who went on to be a key figure in feminist activism, and instigated the ACLU investigations into how women were treated in Hollywood. She appears in this very good 2018 documentary about sexism in the industry:



Any film that has the ghost of a dead miner inspiring the Blades to get to the FA Cup final is oreyt by me!

"Goal" is just when Saturday comes but abart Newcastle the storyline is so similar
 
"Goal" is just when Saturday comes but abart Newcastle the storyline is so similar

The Sunday league game on the field at the top of Mulehouse Road, Crookes, is my favourite.

It's an odd shaped bit of land that doesn't actually fit a footy pitch, but artistic licence and all that. The cemetery on one side, and a brilliant view of Stannington and the Rivelin Valley on the other, make for an iconic Sheffield setting.
 
View attachment 230537Came across this in my loft … I have no idea if it’s worth anything .. it’s signed (no COA) and I have no idea who ABMFC are… my dad got it me from the Rose and Crown Eckington and I seem to recall ABMFC may have been a football team set up in the memory of someone but I could be wrong
Tried to do a bit of digging on this but can't really find anything for sure.

The aging on the signature and colour definitely look like they're weren't made at the same time as the dedication. Could have been won or gifted with the personal message being made by someone else.

The only thing I can find in terms of a football team is Allerton Bywater Miners Football Club, which I know is in an opposite direction of where the pub is but not massively far away.

There's Eckington Boys Football Club which was founded in 1983 - Surnames of Adams, Barden & Bailey come up. So in your mention of what you remember it could be something like Adams & Barden/Bailey Memorial Football Club. I can't find anything online regarding a memorial club though.

Did a bit of digging to see there was any link to some sort of Miners club but alas nothing.

Best idea would be to get in touch with the pub to see if you can find any leads. Unlikely the owners now will know anything but they might be able to put you in touch with someone who does.

Could also take a punt and message him on Instagram - You never know!
 
One of the big problems with films set in Sheffield is that everyone bolts on the generic 'Eeeeeh, bah-gum, eckers like, 'appen it might rain, our Mabel!" accent.

They also fail to clock that a northern Sheffield dialect is similar to a southern Sheffield dialect, but not the same.

Most actors think a Manc accent might do (and you can see they've been watching the Gallaghers and Corrie for references) or its a N Yorks 'Last of the Summer Wine' Compo and Clegg, 'I'll just get me whippets and me wellies' silliness. You listen to a news report from Sheffield ... switch on half way through and listen to who they are interviewing. The flattening of vowels and intonation, the way they say 'Manor' in the way of 'Mannoh' and the way we Sheffielders use the glottal t' and glue it into the next word is unique and instantly recognisable. You can spot the fakers when they come out with 'I'm goin' to tut-match'. The dialogue coaches are to blame.

It's taken me a long, long time to teach my wife how to say 'reyt laff' and how to say 'Shefyuldwensdeyzfukkditupagen!'
 
One of the big problems with films set in Sheffield is that everyone bolts on the generic 'Eeeeeh, bah-gum, eckers like, 'appen it might rain, our Mabel!" accent.

They also fail to clock that a northern Sheffield dialect is similar to a southern Sheffield dialect, but not the same.

Most actors think a Manc accent might do (and you can see they've been watching the Gallaghers and Corrie for references) or its a N Yorks 'Last of the Summer Wine' Compo and Clegg, 'I'll just get me whippets and me wellies' silliness. You listen to a news report from Sheffield ... switch on half way through and listen to who they are interviewing. The flattening of vowels and intonation, the way they say 'Manor' in the way of 'Mannoh' and the way we Sheffielders use the glottal t' and glue it into the next word is unique and instantly recognisable. You can spot the fakers when they come out with 'I'm goin' to tut-match'. The dialogue coaches are to blame.

It's taken me a long, long time to teach my wife how to say 'reyt laff' and how to say 'Shefyuldwensdeyzfukkditupagen!'

When trying to take me off or do a Sheffield accent they always say ‘reet’ instead of ‘reyt’ and it does my head in as they’ve obviously not been listening.

I tell them to say the number eight and simply put an R in front, but it’s just too tricky for them. Professional actors should be able to get it you would think but it’s rare to see a good Sheffield accent from someone who isn’t from here.
 
One of the big problems with films set in Sheffield is that everyone bolts on the generic 'Eeeeeh, bah-gum, eckers like, 'appen it might rain, our Mabel!" accent.

They also fail to clock that a northern Sheffield dialect is similar to a southern Sheffield dialect, but not the same.

Most actors think a Manc accent might do (and you can see they've been watching the Gallaghers and Corrie for references) or its a N Yorks 'Last of the Summer Wine' Compo and Clegg, 'I'll just get me whippets and me wellies' silliness. You listen to a news report from Sheffield ... switch on half way through and listen to who they are interviewing. The flattening of vowels and intonation, the way they say 'Manor' in the way of 'Mannoh' and the way we Sheffielders use the glottal t' and glue it into the next word is unique and instantly recognisable. You can spot the fakers when they come out with 'I'm goin' to tut-match'. The dialogue coaches are to blame.

It's taken me a long, long time to teach my wife how to say 'reyt laff' and how to say 'Shefyuldwensdeyzfukkditupagen!'
I agree about the accents.

Seems to be a case of using any jobbing Northern actor on the circuit who was available in much the same way most TV shows still do.

Brian from Coronation Street, John Henshaw from Early Doors…”Our Russ” was in Queer as Folk….all very much Greater Manchester based.

Pete Postelthwaite’s accent didn’t seem out of place even though he’s from Warrington area where they all sound like scousers.
 



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