Wilder hating mugs

[Back post bob]

We had a plan first half formation changed and we looked reasonable.I presume Wilder and knill changed the shape and picked the players.
Did Wilder tell two players to go for the same ball,Did Wilder tell our players not to close the player and shot down.
Did Wilder tell Adam Davies he would like him to come out and completely miss the ball.
Did Wilder tell Campbell to keep standing offside.
It goes on and on
THE PLAYERS NEED TO TAKE Some Responsibility as well.
We are all in this together support the club,manager and players and let's look where we are end of January the owners need to give there commitment if they don't
That's the time to throw the teddies out the cot.

 

[Blademan89]

Tanganga, started out as a RB in the premier for Spurs! Keep seeing this ,"why is Tanganga playing RB" bollocks!

Tanganga should be where hes best at cb. We have a capable attacking right back sat getting splinters, who might I add, did more down that right hand side eoth Brooks than both Tanganga & ogbene all match.

 

[Bladesman]

I watched the whole match. I suspect that's the toughest game Coventry has had all season.
Another 2 fuck ups have cost us and we've been unlucky up top tonight.
Much better performance tonight.
3 1 flatters then. 2 2 or 1 1 would've been a fair score tonight.. imo anyways.

I agree but we are not cutting out the mistakes. We have experienced enough players in this squad to call upon who are not doing their job.

 

[bladesince64]

I'm not sure what Wilder can do about his keeper lunging recklessly at the ball and completely missing it to gift Cov a goal.

 

[LondonRoad]

xG is not a load of bollocks. If it was then why do football clubs use these types of metrics to assess individual/team performance? And I said since January, not for about 6 games. And also you're talking about expected goals... I'm talking about xG - xGA, the xG difference is terrible in comparison to Aug24-Dec24.

Hear what you're saying, but xG is nonsense imho

 

[LondonRoad]

Tanganga should be where hes best at cb. We have a capable attacking right back sat getting splinters, who might I add, did more down that right hand side eoth Brooks than both Tanganga & ogbene all match.

Fair enough

 

[LiamBG]

Squad is fine, mid table quality at least. What’s funny is he’s serving up the same shite as last season, same formation, same pass pass pass, hit it down the channels bollocks. it’s just now he doesn’t have all the quality players at his disposal to bail him out. No Vini, Anel and now Hamer. These players would have been sold with or without him being sacked. Performances last season were absolutely garbage at times, most of the season actually but we rode our luck and just edged those tight games by having far superior players. HT team talk and tactic changes at Wembley sums up modern day CW unfortunately. Owners got it right sacking him in the summer IMO. Made a huge mistake re appointing him, it wasn’t a rescue job after however many games we sacked Selles, but it certainly is now!

 

[unitedbhoy]

Squad is fine, mid table quality at least. What’s funny is he’s serving up the same shite as last season, same formation, same pass pass pass, hit it down the channels bollocks. it’s just now he doesn’t have all the quality players at his disposal to bail him out. No Vini, Anel and now Hamer. These players would have been sold with or without him being sacked. Performances last season were absolutely garbage at times, most of the season actually but we rode our luck and just edged those tight games by having far superior players. HT team talk and tactic changes at Wembley sums up modern day CW unfortunately. Owners got it right sacking him in the summer IMO. Made a huge mistake re appointing him, it wasn’t a rescue job after however many games we sacked Selles, but it certainly is now!

Absolutely spot on

 

[gordoncharles]

What exactly are you expecting from a squad that’s been ruined before a ball was kicked this season? The piss poor summer recruitment has nothing to do with Wilder. This is all on the owners heads but yeah, let’s use it beat Wilder with.

At risk of repetition over several posts the squad was not "ruined". Of the players who were actually contracted to us the only ones of value who actually left were Ahmedhodzic and Sousa - it was always likely they would go and it was certain they would be diffcult (ie almost impossible) to adequately replace.

This is a different matter from the ludicrous scooping up of what was around that actually took place, but apart from Bindon and Barry surely nobody can believe it would have been any different either under the current/previous manager or anybody else?

We didn't exactly have a successful winter transfer market did we? And the one good player that was temporarily brought in was under-used for reasons that are still not fully evident.

That said, I'm not in favour of making any further managerial changes. Let it play out and see what happens. As run-of-the-mill as this lot are, with the occasional good player popping up here and there, and even with our identikit tactics which are inevitably thrown up into the air to see where they land after 70 minutes, there is still more than enough to survive comfortably.

If not, then after 41 games it will put this sort of discussion to bed for ever.

 

[Matlock Blade]

I would bring Warnock back til the end of the season as he is very good at turning around teams sliding to relegation. Actually spend the rest of the season considering a really good manager for next season. Maybe actually interview a few good managers and offer the job to the best candidate. Just a suggestion.

 

[Zero dark thirty]

Neil ‘fucking’ Warnock and at this point I’m only half joking

No joke about it he was great for you

 

[jt64]

Hear what you're saying, but xG is nonsense imho

I am guessing you have never used the term "half chance" then?

 

[spongebobblade]

At risk of repetition over several posts the squad was not "ruined". Of the players who were actually contracted to us the only ones of value who actually left were Ahmedhodzic and Sousa - it was always likely they would go and it was certain they would be diffcult (ie almost impossible) to adequately replace.

This is a different matter from the ludicrous scooping up of what was around that actually took place, but apart from Bindon and Barry surely nobody can believe it would have been any different either under the current/previous manager or anybody else?

We didn't exactly have a successful winter transfer market did we? And the one good player that was temporarily brought in was under-used for reasons that are still not fully evident.

That said, I'm not in favour of making any further managerial changes. Let it play out and see what happens. As run-of-the-mill as this lot are, with the occasional good player popping up here and there, and even with our identikit tactics which are inevitably thrown up into the air to see where they land after 70 minutes, there is still more than enough to survive comfortably.

If not, then after 41 games it will put this sort of discussion to bed for ever.

You have to consider the loan signings that went back if you are including those brought in. Substantially lower in standard

 

[TJ blade]

We had a plan first half formation changed and we looked reasonable.I presume Wilder and knill changed the shape and picked the players.
Did Wilder tell two players to go for the same ball,Did Wilder tell our players not to close the player and shot down.
Did Wilder tell Adam Davies he would like him to come out and completely miss the ball.
Did Wilder tell Campbell to keep standing offside.
It goes on and on
THE PLAYERS NEED TO TAKE Some Responsibility as well.
We are all in this together support the club,manager and players and let's look where we are end of January the owners need to give there commitment if they don't
That's the time to throw the teddies out the cot.

Might be to late at the end of January, apparently bettis said in his interview, we will be looking at loans, like the summer window, if that the case it could be at the end of January then, if that's the case, with this lot we will be sunk by then!

 

[LondonRoad]

I am guessing you have never used the term "half chance" then?

Like a mis-kicked goal kick or corner? All about opinions mate, but shots on/off target explain it more accurately to me

 

[blade4life10]

With attacking intent, points on the board, scoring goals, yes definitely

someones been at the glue anything was better than 5 losses and 1 goal with selles but you seriously think this is an improvment on another scale? absolutely not carbon copy of the boomerang manager we cant get rid of that blames everything else but his own tactics and team selections got rid for a reason when the chips go down so do we clueless on multiple levels and way out of depth when it doesnt go to plan a, sideways and backwards for 90% of the game ill pass thanks id rather go down battered every week like the prem than watch utter horlicks football that sends ya to sleep quicker dross

 

[jt64]

Like a mis-kicked goal kick or corner? All about opinions mate, but shots on/off target explain it more accurately to me

Ok. If you want to consider a tame shot from 40 yards down the keeper's throat as "good" and a Sammon-esque spoon over an open goal from five yards as "bad", whereas xG would consider the quality of chance as the complete opposite, that's your prerogative. Hope that you can survive the analogue TV turn off

 

[blade4life10]

xG is not a load of bollocks. If it was then why do football clubs use these types of metrics to assess individual/team performance? And I said since January, not for about 6 games. And also you're talking about expected goals... I'm talking about xG - xGA, the xG difference is terrible in comparison to Aug24-Dec24.

simple game complicated by fucking robots get a grip xg is biggest load of bollocks going how can you have .6 or .4 of a goal its fucking one or none 2 3 4 etc expected nothing when none go in use your eyes not your stats become a computer not a realist open your eyes 900 passes at back and xg of 3.4 does what? fuckall when you lose one stat is only most that should ever care about scoreboard in corner thats it

 

[DronnieBlade]

I don’t buy that free pass nonsense. He accepted the job knowing the players he had at his disposal, and it’s his job to get a tune out of them. If he can’t or won’t, he should find another employer who is happy to let him blame everyone else.
We are in the shit and he owns a healthy dose of the blame now, needs to do something about it and sharpish.

A total lack of understanding is evident in what you state.

This mess is not Wilders. He has Donnay golf clubs to compete where other managers have Pings.

Jan can not come soon enough.

Trouble I can see is that funds will have to be generated so Gus is toast. There will be others !!

UTB

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Wilder baffles me. Plays a CB at RB game after game, even tho we have a young fast decent RB, meaning we need to put rodney trotter at CB instead, thus imbalancing our defence. Then one of our best players of late, Soumare, doesnt get a sniff tonight. Does me pointing those two obvious fck ups make me a mug?

 

[LondonRoad]

Ok. If you want to consider a tame shot from 40 yards down the keeper's throat as "good" and a Sammon-esque spoon over an open goal from five yards as "bad", whereas xG would consider the quality of chance as the complete opposite, that's your prerogative. Hope that you can survive the analogue TV turn off

Now now, don't be rotten to someone who may be more traditional than you.

 

[LondonRoad]

Wilder baffles me. Plays a CB at RB game after game, even tho we have a young fast decent RB, meaning we need to put rodney trotter at CB instead, thus imbalancing our defence. Then one of our best players of late, Soumare, doesnt get a sniff tonight. Does me pointing those two obvious fck ups make me a mug?

Absolutely not, good comments. However, as mentioned previously, Tanganga started in the PL as a RB. Soumare clearly has talent, but his positional sense ATM, could be questioned. Playing away at top of the league might not have been the best decision today. Queue the "thanks Chris" comments

 

[jt64]

Now now, don't be rotten to someone who may be more traditional than you.

Nah, no problem with your opinions, they're fine. I'd love it if we were back in the day where the Green Un was the quickest way to get results, they were simpler and more pleasant times. However it is 2025 and by the time they'd have sent the copy to the printers I've seen every goal I want to see on social media. Times change, as do what are considered good statistics. All the best.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

I'm genuinely interested to know which realistic post-Selles manager appointment would have had this shower of shit playing better? A squad so bad Selles got them to score one goal in five games. Wilders managed to get them to score 10, not amazing but certainly an improvement on the scoring side, defense is still shocking though. The opportunity to get a better manager than Wilder was back in June when we looked a class Championship outfit. Thinking that post-Selles we could still attract that kind of manager is nonsense. Lets hope Wilder is given the funds to turn this shitshow around in January, otherwise it's sure to get very ugly.

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Absolutely not, good comments. However, as mentioned previously, Tanganga started in the PL as a RB. Soumare clearly has talent, but his positional sense ATM, could be questioned. Playing away at top of the league might not have been the best decision today. Queue the "thanks Chris" comments

Tanganga wasnt a regular RB in the prem and when I saw him play there for spuds he looked ropey. He is though, a different level to McGuinness at CB. Not sure why Wilder plays that gormless liability week after week.

 

[Blade56]

Yeah cos he's made a huge difference hasn't he?

No

He’s lost more games than Sellés

 

[Slugger]

Can't comment on Saturdays, I was away and couldn't get signal. All I can comment on is he started same system as before. Wth Tanganga rb, ogbene in a weird wing back role, peck and new lad as the pivots.

Was Campbell on his own up front?

Never is, you sound like you could write his presser, definitely something he would say.

Disagree with you there.
Sometimes defeat can definitely be due to poor formation/tactics/in game decisions etc. from the manager and Wilder has been guilty of all 3 at times this season.
Tonight's defeat however was not down to Wilder.
Team were set up more positively and obviously told to take more risks with possession regarding forward passes and commiting players forward.
At 1-0 up we stayed positive and didn't try to sit on the lead. All subs made (except for keeper sub due to injury) were positive.
At times this year we've looked clueless with the ball but tonight there were noticeable effective patterns of play. eg. Early balls into channels for Campbell with quick support runs. Overlapping runs from Seriki off Brookes. O'Hare's linking runs between midfield and attack right across the pitch etc etc.

I'm neither a Wilder-lover nor a Wilder-hater but I am a Blade and I was encouraged by a lot of what I saw tonight.
Still lots of improvement needed obviously.

 

[Ginger Gnome]

Absolutely not, good comments. However, as mentioned previously, Tanganga started in the PL as a RB.

Tanganga played RB sometimes for Spurs but was always a central defender playing out of position. Sol Campbell started out playing left back for them but it was never his best position.

 

[1888to1889]

Yeah cos he's made a huge difference hasn't he?

Pig

 

[1888to1889]

He really isn't.

He will do