Blades fans Fighting each other......

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I believe the ruckus in 140 started because one "Blade" took exception to another guy falling asleep. The "Blade" decided he didn't like that so he decided to wake him up by dragging him out of his seat and punching him repeatedly in the back of the head. There were several women and some very small children in adjacent.

It's right that we should be outraged and I think that at the match on Friday and through maybe Gary Sinclair, the club should announce their total disapproval together with a statement that the perpetrators are not welcome at future Sheffield United matches.

They are animals, nothing more, nothing less.

Get rid.
 

Surely all of this will be on CCTV?

I should think it would be possible to identify the trouble makers, the seats they occupied, and from this their names. I am assuming they purchased tickets through the club just like you and me?

Nearby fans could be contacted to establish facts.

It is good to hear that the club are collating information and I hope the trouble makers will be held to account.

HH
 
One of the sad things about this is there is a group of blokes following the Blades, in their 40's -50's having a 'bit of a second youth' now that their kids have grown up...pissed and stoned and wanting to 'feyt'...well anyone they bump into basically ( I'm sure many of you know em/know of em)

With the game seemingly secondary.

Seen some embarrassing stuff with Blade fighting Blade over the years...but first really noticed it in the Prem season against Fulham away.

Maybe they'll grow out of it...
 
CarlingBlade said:
it wasnt so far from where we were sat, luckily enough far enough away not to get caught up in the
stupidity, the incident seemed to grow out of control, about 30 were kicking the living daylights out of each other and security were nowhere to be seen for a good 5 mins.

matches of the stature of an fa cup semi final are always going to bring out idiots and those who will rarely turn up at the Lane on a tuesday night to watch us take on the likes of Gillingham, (not meaning those who live away from Sheffield), they probably get out once in a blue moon and are the type who cant take their beers, mixed with sunshine, whatever else and the emotion of such an important
match.

I was as gutted as the next Blade when we lost on Sunday but my heart could have burst out of my chest with pride, i saw a great response from the majority of fans, a superb bond between the players on the pitch and the supporters in the stands and with the likes of the Prince and Jim Phipps now onboard a bright future.
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Just because you live in sheffield doesnt mean u have to turn up on a tuesday or whenever to watch us ,blades in sheffield have allsorts of reasons why they cant go and support there team
 
Esablade said:
One of the sad things about this is there is a group of blokes following the Blades, in their 40's -50's having a 'bit of a second youth' now that their kids have grown up...pissed and stoned and wanting to 'feyt'...well anyone they bump into basically ( I'm sure many of you know em/know of em)

With the game seemingly secondary.

Seen some embarrassing stuff with Blade fighting Blade over the years...but first really noticed it in the Prem season against Fulham away.

Maybe they'll grow out of it...
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They will only grow out of it when they are 6 feet under
 
I emailed united on monday then emma wylie yesterday about the fights and not even had an acknowledgement - pretty poor really esp as i mentioned how my lad was there, i was willing to help identify the morons etc
 
essexblade73 said:
I emailed united on monday then emma wylie yesterday about the fights and not even had an acknowledgement - pretty poor really esp as i mentioned how my lad was there, i was willing to help identify the morons etc
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I suggest you contact SYP Sheffield United football liaison officer at Attercliffe Police Station and pass him the info'. I'm sure they are looking into the whole debacle and collating fans information.

The two times I have contacted Utd, I have never had a reply. In my experience, their liaison with the fans is appalling, they are wholly reliant on the fact that everyone loves the club and know that irrespective of the poor customer service, we'll all be there next Saturday.
 
alcoblade said:
Leave it and move on, surely. Did this act really ruin the day for everyone, or those around it? Wasn't it just an unsavoury 5 minutes?

Let's not make a bigger deal out of it - it will only make the club look bad.

All IMHO, obviously.

UTB
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As we were leaving the ground one clown took a swing at his "mate" and missed my son by a couple of inches. The two of them then proceeded to roll about on the floor like 2 demented dogs. Not my son!!! Make an issue or people will get hurt sometime, fancy another Hillsborough? The club have not even noticed seemingly.
 
If the club appear to adopt a deaf, dumb, and blind stance why not contact Jim Phipps on Twitter? That way it enters a public arena and Jim is put in a position where he has to respond on behalf of the club, that way the ball may get rolling.
 
I was near where the fighting was, just a few rows below, it seem to happened after we conceded the 3rd goal.
It was quite shocking and dampened atmosphere near us.
 
Where you come into 140 the railings above the tunnel leading down to the first 20? rows was where the fighting was the stewards went up both sides of the tunnel to get to the fighting fans. Could it have been around row 138?
 
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I wasn't there to see it myself, and thankfully neither did my grandson who did attend, but several other close friends and family were there who witnessed it first hand. They had over 100 years of supporting United between them, including grandmothers and children, but they have said that they will not attend another United match anywhere as long as the yobs are at liberty to act like this again. I wonder how many blades think the same.

United have a moral obligation to ensure that their fans (paying customers) are not exposed to this behavior, but also a commercial need to ensure revenue streams are not diminished by having stay-away supporters.

The little (or no) feedback from the club is more than disappointing
 
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this already, but every club now has a "family stand" so that supporters with young children can get tickets feeling reasonably confident that they'll be away from the worst of the aggressive drunken brawlers. Given that games between domestic clubs at Wembley will almost certainly have more supporters than usual, who are more drunk than usual, with more strained emotions than usual, should our national stadium also have a specifically designated family area?
 
I'm not condoning what happened Sunday far from it, especially blades fighting blades, not what should be happening.
I was in block 128 very close to what junior suduko saw happen, but it has not took away the great memories and feelings I have from Sunday, but some people seem to be focusing more on what a very very small minority did than what happened on the field.
I know it can be upsetting especially for people with young kids, but this is what these kind of fans want, they want the attention, I would encourage people to think and post more of the memories they have of what happened on the field and what happened with 33 thousand fans near the end of the game. than what a small minority did.
 
Just rcvd two replies from bramall lane, both the same email from steve hicks and emma wylie - says they are conducting enquiries and will keep us informed of what proceeds - fair enough
 

I was there with my family of twelve we had that kick off at the back of us and a couple of drunken scotch lads makin a nuisance of themselves in front of us we had kids and girls in our party i was proud how my team and majority of fans were but ffs the club needs to sort these knobheads out
 
Tops said:
I'm not condoning what happened Sunday far from it, especially blades fighting blades, not what should be happening.
I was in block 128 very close to what junior suduko saw happen, but it has not took away the great memories and feelings I have from Sunday, but some people seem to be focusing more on what a very very small minority did than what happened on the field.
I know it can be upsetting especially for people with young kids, but this is what these kind of fans want, they want the attention, I would encourage people to think and post more of the memories they have of what happened on the field and what happened with 33 thousand fans near the end of the game. than what a small minority did.
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Curious post mate. So you suggest not giving these fuckers attention do you?

What happens when one of them decides to attack someone who requests they sit down or stop being abusive? Do we wait until someone is injured before drawing the club's attention to their behaviour? Or do we try and nip this in the bud before a message is sent out that no one cares and they, the arseholes, can act in any way they wish?

It makes no sense at all to suggest that they're a small minority, that's all it takes to intimidate those supporters who aren't capable of looking after themselves. One gobby thug can frighten people, so imagine the damage that four or five of them might inflict on anyone else? Don't play the numbers game and suggest that because they are few we should ignore them. They are dangerous, and my concern is for those of us who might get involved whether we like it or not.
 
I was in CW in block 235 and can say I didn't notice any trouble anywhere. My workmate was in the higher tier and said just two drunken numptys started showing off up there.
Without taking anything away from the stupidity of the scrapping can I offer a bit of perspective.
Who remembers in the 70's Newcastle United fans packing out the right hand side of the Kop and throwing darts, snooker balls, and pieces of jagged metal at us?
From what I've read on here it sounds like the kind of mindless drunken brawling that happens in every city centre on a Friday/Saturday night. Not excusing it, but just saying it was a lot worse in the 70's and 80's.
 
CrookesBlade52 said:
I was in CW in block 235 and can say I didn't notice any trouble anywhere. My workmate was in the higher tier and said just two drunken numptys started showing off up there.
Without taking anything away from the stupidity of the scrapping can I offer a bit of perspective.
Who remembers in the 70's Newcastle United fans packing out the right hand side of the Kop and throwing darts, snooker balls, and pieces of jagged metal at us?
From what I've read on here it sounds like the kind of mindless drunken brawling that happens in every city centre on a Friday/Saturday night. Not excusing it, but just saying it was a lot worse in the 70's and 80's.
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Why can't it be a lot better in 2015?
 
itsinyerblood said:
Curious post mate. So you suggest not giving these fuckers attention do you?

What happens when one of them decides to attack someone who requests they sit down or stop being abusive? Do we wait until someone is injured before drawing the club's attention to their behaviour? Or do we try and nip this in the bud before a message is sent out that no one cares and they, the arseholes, can act in any way they wish?

It makes no sense at all to suggest that they're a small minority, that's all it takes to intimidate those supporters who aren't capable of looking after themselves. One gobby thug can frighten people, so imagine the damage that four or five of them might inflict on anyone else? Don't play the numbers game and suggest that because they are few we should ignore them. They are dangerous, and my concern is for those of us who might get involved whether we like it or not.
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Sorry mate but you are talking about 40 - 50 fans around the ground out of 33 thousand, that's a small minority, the not giving them attention, I was referring to posting on message boards about what they did, they get off on it,
As some have posted I don't think they were ignored, fans took a stance chanting wankers in certain parts where it happened, around us the bloke who caused the trouble was told to pack it in.
I understand what you're saying how some people will be frightened, but once again you will never stop it, trust me I know. no matter what the club do to try and stop this minority from going to matches some will always slip through the net
By all means if you feel the need to contact the club about what happened then go ahead, I don't blame anybody that does feel the need to, but you will never stop it happening, that's a fact, harsh but true.
 
Tops said:
Sorry mate but you are talking about 40 - 50 fans around the ground out of 33 thousand, that's a small minority, the not giving them attention, I was referring to posting on message boards about what they did, they get off on it,
As some have posted I don't think they were ignored, fans took a stance chanting wankers in certain parts where it happened, around us the bloke who caused the trouble was told to pack it in.
I understand what you're saying how some people will be frightened, but once again you will never stop it, trust me I know. no matter what the club do to try and stop this minority from going to matches some will always slip through the net
By all means if you feel the need to contact the club about what happened then go ahead, I don't blame anybody that does feel the need to, but you will never stop it happening, that's a fact, harsh but true.
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Sorry mate, but I think you've missed the point.

These knuckle draggers are dangerous, and whether you infer you know about this type of behaviour, or that you're an expert, really doesn't matter. I never suggested that this could be prevented totally, but what can be done is to identify them via their ticket allocation, witnesses, and what other legitimate means of identification can be used to nail those who were fighting.

Either that, or we can resign ourselves to this sort of behaviour happening whenever these morons feel like kicking off and send a signal out that public safety isn't a priority for SUFC. What will it take for you to adopt a more assertive attitude about trying to curtail this behaviour?

It doesn't matter whether it's 10 or 100, by suggesting it was a small percentage of the crowd you miss the point mate. They're dangerous, and I don't want anyone, young or old, male or female, getting hurt because no one seems intent on trying to prevent this from happening. The one point you were right about is that this is a recurring problem.
 
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itsinyerblood said:
Sorry mate, but I think you've missed the point.

These knuckle draggers are dangerous, and whether you infer you know about this type of behaviour, or that you're an expert, really doesn't matter. I never suggested that this could be prevented totally, but what can be done is to identify them via their ticket allocation, witnesses, and what other legitimate means of identification can be used to nail those who were fighting.

Either that, or we can resign ourselves to this sort of behaviour happening whenever these morons feel like kicking off and send a signal out that public safety isn't a priority for SUFC. What will it take for you to adopt a more assertive attitude about trying to curtail this behaviour?

It doesn't matter whether it's 10 or 100, by suggesting it was a small percentage of the crowd you miss the point mate. They're dangerous, and I don't want anyone, young or old, male or female, getting hurt because no one seems intent on trying to prevent this fropm happening. The one point you were right about is that this is a recurring problem.
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Sorry mate I think you have missed my point, there would have been a time before when I would argue the toss with you about this, but I can't be bothered these days, probably why I haven't posted for a couple of years, but you know best mate, I'll leave it at that.
 
Tops said:
Sorry mate I think you have missed my point, there would have been a time before when I would argue the toss with you about this, but I can't be bothered these days, probably why I haven't posted for a couple of years, but you know best mate, I'll leave it at that.
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Maybe because you weren't able to make your point well enough I'd suggest.

Unless you seem to think that it's news that troublemakers and football have had a relationship for decades, then you failed to offer a coherent point of view. Best leave it to those who care pal.
 
It is about time some fans had a reality check, we have about one fan in every thousand who is wanting to fight and cause trouble. Wailing about it on message boards or as suggested on twitter is just what the thugs want, bullies always like to look bigger than they really are that is how they get off. Rather than moaning here go down to Bramall lane or the local Police station and demand some action both have done very little to stamp out thuggish behaviour at the lane, police were nowhere to be seen v Forest but since have gone for overkill when policing our games, take a walk at half time to the refreshments at the kop/south stand corner any game you like it is bad enough the people smoking ordinary fags but it stinks of skunk every week but the club do fuck all. No need to publicise bad behaviour everyone knows it goes on but we are all a little guilty because no one ever complains. We all could do more, the club and especially the Police how hard is it the check the cctv.
 
itsinyerblood said:
Maybe because you weren't able to make your point well enough I'd suggest.

Unless you seem to think that it's news that troublemakers and football have had a relationship for decades, then you failed to offer a coherent point of view. Best leave it to those who care pal.
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Like I said you know best.
 

itsinyerblood said:
If this wasn't so serious you'd be mildly amusing
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Look mate I know how serious it is, and to make out I don't care is total bollox, I'm just not going to argue with you about it
So lets leave it at that shall we.
 
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