United's form with Cannon on the pitch.

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

In 15 appearances our form whilst Cannon is on the pitch is W4 D7 L4 our actual form in those games is W8 D1 L6

In the 691 minutes Cannon has been on the pitch we've collectively scored 8 goals. That's approx 1 goal per 86 minutes.

In that same time period we have collectively conceded 12 goals. Tom Cannon himself has contributed 1 goal and 1 assist.

And let the records show: He missed an absolute sitter today vs Blackburn. Criminal.

 

[Shawy24]

In 15 appearances our form whilst Cannon is on the pitch is W4 D7 L4 our actual form in those games is W8 D1 L6

In the 691 minutes Cannon has been on the pitch we've collectively scored 8 goals. That's approx 1 goal per 86 minutes.

In that same time period we have collectively conceded 12 goals. Tom Cannon himself has contributed 1 goal and 1 assist.

And let the records show: He missed an absolute sitter today vs Blackburn. Criminal.

For anyone thinking Cannon is worth it and the answer to our scoring problems and who aren’t Wilder is a fucking genius fan boys, may I refer you to tonight and Isidor and Rudoni as players FFS. Complete strikers with position, power and pace. Then if we have time we can look at Bundi at Plymouth and Sargeant at Norwich amongst others. Don’t want to get on his back, but seriously the difference is stark.

 

[coaxingstar71]

As a friend of mine would say, 'he can do three quarters and five eighths of fuck all'.

 

[mattbianco1]

For anyone thinking Cannon is worth it and the answer to our scoring problems and who aren’t Wilder is a fucking genius fan boys, may I refer you to tonight and Isidor and Rudoni as players FFS. Complete strikers with position, power and pace. Then if we have time we can look at Bundi at Plymouth and Sargeant at Norwich amongst others. Don’t want to get on his back, but seriously the difference is stark.

You watched Coventry v Sunderland and your first thought was to come on here and slag Cannon off?
Bit weird that

 

[Big.Dane.w]

For anyone thinking Cannon is worth it and the answer to our scoring problems and who aren’t Wilder is a fucking genius fan boys, may I refer you to tonight and Isidor and Rudoni as players FFS. Complete strikers with position, power and pace. Then if we have time we can look at Bundi at Plymouth and Sargeant at Norwich amongst others. Don’t want to get on his back, but seriously the difference is stark.

Don’t want to get on his back either but strongly agree with this

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

Bonus stat: In the 4 games we've played since he signed where Cannon had ZERO involvement our form is P4 W3 D1 L0. In those games We've scored 7 and conceded 1.

 

[Shawy24]

You watched Coventry v Sunderland and your first thought was to come on here and slag Cannon off?
Bit weird that

Not first thought. Neither is it slagging off when the truth is shown. It would be slagging off if I didn’t have a reasonable point of view. It is reasonable to point to players who do demonstrate the abilities we might expect of a striker in comparison to the one we paid quite a lot for who er, doesn’t.

I blame Widler. And yes I’m weird.

 

[Mumbo]

I’ve been on this thread 9 minutes….
Of which ,seven I spent wondering why I was reading it,One, I just drifted off….
and I’ve spent one minute typing.
Which proves without doubt that I’m better than
Tom Cannon.

 

[pedro]

Cannon more like a blunderbuss couldn't hit the target if he tried

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

In the 753 minutes Cannon has been on the pitch for us we've collectively scored 10 goals. That's approx 1 goal per 75 minutes.(still not a good figure, but nice to see it shrinking) In that same time period we have collectively conceded 12 goals. Tom Cannon has contributed 1 goal and 1 assist.

 

[joe casey]

Couldn't knock his general workrate last night, nicked it off the centre half 3(?) times but just never looks like he's going to score.
I did notice first half he was pointing/starting to make runs down the channel and we did not play the ball - whether thats the teams confidence in his ability or more evidence that's he's not the right striker for our team I don't know.

He did get a sneaky "assist" on the first goal with a little tug on the keepers shirt as he leapt to beat Moore in the air - possibly ruled out with VAR

 

[Frank the tank]

Couldn't knock his general workrate last night, nicked it off the centre half 3(?) times but just never looks like he's going to score.
I did notice first half he was pointing/starting to make runs down the channel and we did not play the ball - whether thats the teams confidence in his ability or more evidence that's he's not the right striker for our team I don't know.

He did get a sneaky "assist" on the first goal with a little tug on the keepers shirt as he leapt to beat Moore in the air - possibly ruled out with VAR

One of their fans said summat about the shirt pull on the keeper but I've watched the replay several times and genuinely can't see anything

 

[Selly]

One of their fans said summat about the shirt pull on the keeper but I've watched the replay several times and genuinely can't see anything

Oh, its definitively there - was right out of the Billy book of corner tricks

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

In the 765 minutes Cannon has been on the pitch for us we've collectively scored 10 goals. That's approx 1 goal per 76.5 minutes.
In that same time period we have collectively conceded 13. Blades Goal Difference with Cannon on = -3
Tom Cannon has contributed 1 goal and 1 assist in 765 minutes.

 

[TJB.]

Next season we need to either build a team which will play to his strengths or flog him and cut our losses.

How he was ever meant to thrive on his own up top is beyond me.

A strange signing.

 

[Keen Blade]

He’s got absolutely nothing about him.

This is his unique descriptor.

He's not ....

(and here I could list the many possible attributes of a top-end Championship striker).

So what is he ?

Another Brewster ?

Another dodgy investment made on the basis of a few goals in a short burst at Swansea or Stoke.

If he was Wilder's man and not the owners , the former didn't have a clue how to make him effective.

If Ruben can't ,

The Cannon that won't fire is another sunk cost , just like Brewster -

both of whom should have been replacements for top-class CBs , not strikers -

and both of whom should be shipped out with no further delay ...

If someone will provide us with two top-class CBs of captain calibre.

The fact that we are stuck with Robbo is an embarrassment and he should never be played.
He should NOT figure in our thinking at CB if we are being serious about promotion.

Anel is ok but must have a leader next to him.

The 2 CBs who come should have the stature of Anel and be stronger both physically and mentally.

Oh for Bash Egan & JoC in their prime.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

In the 803 minutes Cannon has been on the pitch for us we've collectively scored 10 goals. That's 1 goal per 80.3 minutes.
In that same time period we have collectively conceded 13. Blades Goal Difference with Cannon on = -3
Tom Cannon has contributed 1 goal and 1 assist in those 803 minutes.

 

[chesblade]

During preseason he played him down the left today for some reason down the right

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

We need to plot a way to get our money back

Maybe loan him to someone we think can get promoted. 10m obligation to buy if they do. The Le Fee trap. Should also be a team where he's likely to score a few so he can at least maintain some value if they don't go up

Alternatively, we could tell Wrexham he's Welsh. Thomas Cannon - perfectly viable

 

[Silky Sabella]

In the 803 minutes Cannon has been on the pitch for us we've collectively scored 10 goals. That's 1 goal per 80.3 minutes.
In that same time period we have collectively conceded 13. Blades Goal Difference with Cannon on = -3
Tom Cannon has contributed 1 goal and 1 assist in those 803 minutes.

10 times better than Brewster then !

 

[GodricBlade]

I don’t know whether feel sorry for the lad or what but exactly what are his attributes as a footballer?
He doesn’t look interested, he’s not rapid, he’s not strong, he plays with his head down & ends up down blind alleys.
He looks like he’s got a hard shot - but that’s it as far as I can see.
Maybe he’s being played out of position?
Maybe he’s not settled at the club?
Maybe he’s not fully fit?
Maybe there’s something else going on?
But he just does not look happy & it certainly tells in his contribution - which is limited to say the least.

 

[Gimli]

In the 803 minutes Cannon has been on the pitch for us we've collectively scored 10 goals. That's 1 goal per 80.3 minutes.
In that same time period we have collectively conceded 13. Blades Goal Difference with Cannon on = -3
Tom Cannon has contributed 1 goal and 1 assist in those 803 minutes.

Cannon came on at 1-4 today, so surely by your ridiculous ‘United form with Cannon on the pitch’ standings that’s a point gained…

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Cannon came on at 1-4 today, so surely by your ridiculous ‘United form with Cannon on the pitch’ standings that’s a point gained…

Was thinking the same! Anyone who was there yesterday and one of their takeaways is to slam Cannon, needs their bumps feeling!

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

Was thinking the same! Anyone who was there yesterday and one of their takeaways is to slam Cannon, needs their bumps feeling!

I update this thread after ever Cannon appearance. It will continue as long as he's with the club. I try and keep it simply to factual statistics. (unless he scores or messes up big time in which case I might offer a comment)

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I update this thread after ever Cannon appearance. It will continue as long as he's with the club. I try and keep it simply to factual statistics. (unless he scores or messes up big time in which case I might offer a comment)

So why pick on Cannon?

Did you do the same for Brewster, McBurnie, Hamer or any other of our other 'big signings'?

 

[Gimli]

I update this thread after ever Cannon appearance. It will continue as long as he's with the club. I try and keep it simply to factual statistics. (unless he scores or messes up big time in which case I might offer a comment)

I’ll take the liberty of updating on your behalf for this season then…

Form without Cannon on the pitch:
P1 W0 D0 L1 GF1 GA4 GD-3 Pts0

Form with Cannon on the pitch:
P1 W0 D1 L0 GF0 GA0 GD0 Pts1

Nice solid if unspectacular start to the season blades getting off to a 0-0 draw, well played Tom.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

I’ll take the liberty of updating on your behalf for this season then…

Form without Cannon on the pitch:
P1 W0 D0 L1 GF1 GA4 GD-3 Pts0

Form with Cannon on the pitch:
P1 W0 D1 L0 GF0 GA0 GD0 Pts1

Nice solid if unspectacular start to the season blades getting off to a 0-0 draw, well played Tom.

I started out using this format, but it quickly became redundant as some of his appearances are brief. It became apparent the valuing a 90 minute appearance equally to a 20 minute appearance in terms of WLD was not a worthwhile stat

This is why I just measure minutes per goal scored, minutes per goal conceded and goal difference.

You're free to track his stats just for this season in this thread, but it will take ages before you get to a significant sample size. He's still got under 1000 minutes since he joined and I'd say the data will only take on real meaning past 1500 minutes.

 

[Gimli]

I started out using this format, but it quickly became redundant as some of his appearances are brief. It became apparent the valuing a 90 minute appearance equally to a 20 minute appearance in terms of WLD was not a worthwhile stat

This is why I just measure minutes per goal scored, minutes per goal conceded and goal difference.

You're free to track his stats just for this season in this thread, but it will take ages before you get to a significant sample size. He's still got under 1000 minutes since he joined and I'd say the data will only take on real meaning past 1500 minutes.

So what you’re saying is it’s not fair to judge on cameo appearances and it’s too early to really say if he’s going to be good enough or not.

Basically exactly what you’ve done through the entire thread

 

[metalblade]

Let's face it in Tom Cannon we have been sold a sick puppy. Looks like he has a hard shot but I have seen nothing else. Slow, weak, doesn't win headers, loses the ball and makes wrong decisions when to shoot or pass. Maybe lower League one is his natural level. We aint ever getting our money back on him who the hell wanted to sign him?

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

So what you’re saying is it’s not fair to judge on cameo appearances and it’s too early to really say if he’s going to be good enough or not.

Basically exactly what you’ve done through the entire thread

I have a hunch that his very presence on the pitch is generally bad for us collectively (in the long run). But I'll record the data match by match and ultimately we shall see if I'm right or wrong. Each appearance gives us more data and more accurate insight.