Brewster

[Frank the tank]

So, Rhian Brewster, he cost £20 million.

Over a period of 5 seasons he has played 119 games for us and scored 9 goals. Assisted 4.

That's an average of less than 24 games per season. And an average of 43 minutes per game. That's less than 2 goals per season and less than one assist.

Our most expensive player. On more than £1 million per year.

And you want to give him a new contract?

Just disregard the fact that he has had his first season relatively injury free and played well

 

[Houston_Blade]

“Played well”.

Probably for about 120 minutes combined in the whole of this season.

 

[steve26272]

So, Rhian Brewster, he cost £20 million.

Over a period of 5 seasons he has played 119 games for us and scored 9 goals. Assisted 4.

That's an average of less than 24 games per season. And an average of 43 minutes per game. That's less than 2 goals per season and less than one assist.

Our most expensive player. On more than £1 million per year.

And you want to give him a new contract?

If you factor in wages @ £40,000 a week = £10.4m + £20m fee that’s £30m cost
That’s £2.3m per goal contribution


Offer him £10k pw plus bonus’s per goal if anything

can’t see anyone offering any more, if his agent bags anything better fair fucks to him

 

[robbiez666]

If you factor in wages @ £40,000 a week = £10.4m + £20m fee that’s £30m cost
That’s £2.3m per goal contribution


Offer him £10k pw plus bonus’s per goal if anything

can’t see anyone offering any more, if his agent bags anything better fair fucks to him

I'm not sure why we're offering him £500k plus bonuses. We could sign a talented young kid for that.

 

[jt64]

If you factor in wages @ £40,000 a week = £10.4m + £20m fee that’s £30m cost
That’s £2.3m per goal contribution


Offer him £10k pw plus bonus’s per goal if anything

can’t see anyone offering any more, if his agent bags anything better fair fucks to him

The agent would just need to hold out for average Championship wages to get 50% more than what you are suggesting he should be offered.

 

[steve26272]

The agent would just need to hold out for average Championship wages to get 50% more than what you are suggesting he should be offered.

Interesting to see if he can bag a £20k deal with his history - only about 6 teams can afford that on someone with his return on investment

 

[jt64]

Interesting to see if he can bag a £20k deal with his history - only about 6 teams can afford that on someone with his return on investment

I think there are a lot of teams that would offer Brewster a million on a 1+1 year club option "prove it" deal given how he has played for us in the second half of this season. As I always say, you are buying what someone can do for you going forward, not what someone has done for someone else in the past

 

[steve26272]

I think there are a lot of teams that would offer Brewster a million on a 1+1 year club option "prove it" deal given how he has played for us in the second half of this season. As I always say, you are buying what someone can do for you going forward, not what someone has done for someone else in the past

Hmmm not sure mate, maybe on a young lad, but Brewsters 25

Any striker ‘can’ score 20 goals a season

The ones that do cost £20-30m in this division

Keiffer Moore cost us £2m cos he can’t

 

[jt64]

Hmmm not sure mate, maybe on a young lad, but Brewsters 25

Any striker ‘can’ score 20 goals a season

The ones that do cost £20-30m in this division

Keiffer Moore cost us £2m cos he can’t

It's the standard definition of a punt. Like it or not, £1m/year is probably a floor for the total cost of ownership for someone in Brewster's position this year. I would not think it would be that hard to find a fairly large selection of suitors (also looking overseas on this one) that think that after horrific injury issues, there are signs that while he will never hit the huge peak that he had when we sign him, that he can still be a very useful asset at the level they are playing at. If he's 25 now, he's 26 in twelve months - organised correctly, a club can retain the registration and look to arrange a longer term deal if it works (and a four year deal at that point only takes him to 30, which is hardly ancient), if it doesn't, they can cut ties cheaply. And to be brutally blunt, testing someone who might be better than Championship average for one season at a million is cheaply these days.

 

[SUFC Guy]

I'm not sure why we're offering him £500k plus bonuses. We could sign a talented young kid for that.

Good point

 

[jimmymuir]

I hope he doesn't sign a new contract, we've got Campbell, Cannon and Carthorse as options up top and I don't want to see him shoehorned as a wide player, I'd prefer actual wingers. Seems like a nice kid, but sadly it hasn't worked out and a fresh start would be beneficial for all parties. We'll always have that special memory of him scoring vs the Pigs!

 

[FinBlade]

Might be better for all of us and Brewster himself to provide him a new, fresh start in a different enviroment

 

[TJ blade]

So, Rhian Brewster, he cost £20 million.

Over a period of 5 seasons he has played 119 games for us and scored 9 goals. Assisted 4.

That's an average of less than 24 games per season. And an average of 43 minutes per game. That's less than 2 goals per season and less than one assist.

Our most expensive player. On more than £1 million per year.

And you want to give him a new contract?

No.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Do we actually know why he hasn’t signed a new contract yet? I’m not saying he isn’t holding out for more money or anything, he well could be, but does anyone know conclusively?

I reckon he'll have been waiting to see if CWAK were staying or going. I imagine he's devastated that they've gone as I'm sure they been a huge support for him during his many injuries.

 

[Sheffsteel]

I was a little on the fence regards sacking Wilder, can see why we’d change it but was mildly in favour of keeping him, giving him until Nov/ Dec and then review it.

I’m also a little on the fence regards Brewster.
His negatives are terrible but for about 2 months he showed he was possibly an average standard Championship player , versatile who gave 100% with a good attitude playing in advanced positions.

Think he’d be a good squad player to bring off the subs bench.

Overall I’m mildly in favour of keeping him but surely we would only offer modest wages which I suspect he’d refuse. If we’re a club expecting to be in the promotion race then can’t see how Brewster could expect to play regular 1st team football.

Pretty certain he’ll leave and not that bothered really.
Altho I do like him and wish him luck at his new club.

 

[Houston_Blade]

given how he has played for us in the second half of this season.

The notion that he’s been ‘good’ in the second half of this season shows how criminally bad he’s been for the previous 4 years. He’s been 6/10 with the odd 7/10 for sections of games. Can you honestly say differently with evidence?

If we have a squad of players who perform similarly over next season we’ll be the most bog standard, mid championship team around. Even Preston will be jealous.

for about 2 months he showed he was possibly an average standard Championship player , versatile who gave 100% with a good attitude playing in advanced positions.

This is where I’m at with him, if he’s cheap enough keep him for the bench, if not he goes.

 

[LBA_Blade]

The only way he should have even been in contention for a new contract would have been if he had been a 20+ goal striker last season and Wilder was still in charge. 1 argument you could say as a tick in the contract offering box, is he knows the staff and team mates well particular the medical team but joking aside an established and coherent squad can leave to consistency and an understanding on the pitch. However with Wilder gone and the likelihood others will follow if the price is right or others will be brought in and we will look like a different side next season, he isn't that familiar face to all. He has to go we can't fill the squad with players like him I would rather give Hackford or One a try. A costly mistake but I hope a learning point.

 

[54yrblade]

Totally ambivalent about him staying of going, IF Selles sees something, but a financial burden on us that Wilder was irrationally stubborn about coming good.

 

[WayneAllison]

F@cking hellmansmayo its genuinely boring people banging on about how much he cost 20 million This 20 million that did it come out of your pocket?

Did Rhian Brewster drive Prince Abdullah to the Lloyds on Fargate and force him to transfer 20 million pounds to Liverpool?

Its boringggggg

Over and over and over 20 million pounds this 20 million pounds that Jesus wept people, if Sheffield United received a pound for every time someone said " He cost 20 Mill " I reckon we'd have paid the transfer fee off ourselves on this forum

Brewster is a talented player who has been injury ravaged and now looks to be over it appears to be a good championship player, at least offer him a 2-year deal on champ wages, and it's a no-brainer

 

[LBA_Blade]

F@cking hellmansmayo its genuinely boring people banging on about how much he cost 20 million This 20 million that did it come out of your pocket?

Did Rhian Brewster drive Prince Abdullah to the Lloyds on Fargate and force him to transfer 20 million pounds to Liverpool?

Its boringggggg

Over and over and over 20 million pounds this 20 million pounds that Jesus wept people, if Sheffield United received a pound for every time someone said " He cost 20 Mill " I reckon we'd have paid the transfer fee off ourselves on this forum

Brewster is a talented player who has been injury ravaged and now looks to be over it appears to be a good championship player, at least offer him a 2-year deal on champ wages, and it's a no-brainer

In part it came out of all of our pockets, in a sense that some of our ticket and other revenue is classed in the revenue for the club for the year.

 

[Harry's Game]

He’s a £20m striker who doesn’t score and has had 3 season ending injuries already.

Seems a nice lad but we aren’t a charity.. it’s time to part ways.

 

[MTBlade]

Has he still got pace?

I couldnt tell in the positions he played last year and with the style/speed of play, it was difficult to see..

If he has, if the price/wage is right, i'd keep him as a striker.

Every team needs a release and if we are playing vertical (my perception is forwards), through balls could be key and IF Brewster still has pace without anything falling apart, he could be a striker we need to go in behind.

I remember the end of last season and the few times Cannon was through but his pace let him down, was noticeable.

Having said all this, i really dont know what style of play we will have this year and if Brewster will fit in.

The joys of being a supporter, we all have ideas and some think they know best (i'll put myself in that bracket), but we havent got a clue what the manager actually wants and is asking of each player.

I know this is off topic of this thread, but thank you CW, you gave me some great times as a supporter but also some head scratching moments.

All the best with your career, but im now 100% behing Selles because he is the manager of the team I support and have done for all my nearly 50 years.

 

[WayneAllison]

He’s a £20m striker who doesn’t score and has had 3 season ending injuries already.

Seems a nice lad but we aren’t a charity.. it’s time to part ways.

How much did he cost ?

 

[Rodders]

I think there's been a fair element of Emperor's New Clothes around Brewster this season. While it's good he's stayed injury free, as mentioned earlier, the bar for him has dropped so low that an average 6/10 performance was being lauded as something special. I don't really see him troubling teams, and huge chunks of games still pass him by.
Bit of a no-brainer, get rid for me.

 

[Toronto Blade]

I think there's been a fair element of Emperor's New Clothes around Brewster this season. While it's good he's stayed injury free, as mentioned earlier, the bar for him has dropped so low that an average 6/10 performance was being lauded as something special. I don't really see him troubling teams, and huge chunks of games still pass him by.
Bit of a no-brainer, get rid for me.

Perhaps Wilder will take his protégé with him .1 injury free season produced little he doesn't bother defenders.It was a very expensive experiment of Wilders that failed.Time to move him on I doubt many would be interested in a 25 year old with his record.

I think there's been a fair element of Emperor's New Clothes around Brewster this season. While it's good he's stayed injury free, as mentioned earlier, the bar for him has dropped so low that an average 6/10 performance was being lauded as something special. I don't really see him troubling teams, and huge chunks of games still pass him by.
Bit of a no-brainer, get rid for me.

 

[Uganda Blade]

I think the world of him as a person and admire the way he has fought back from some dreadful injuries. But he’s hardly indispensable as a player, and if he goes it frees up a lot of wage for other signings who might make a difference.

He’s also, rightly or wrongly, a symbol of the point at which the Wilder era began its decline, so a clean break might be good. I would hope there are no more sacred cows in the future.

Talking of sacred cows, isn't Selles on the record saying something like: he wants to play in a certain way, and if there are players in the squad who can't fit into that, they need to be moved on? (heavy paraphrasing there BTW)
If so, where would Brewster fit in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-2-2?

 

[AWetFlannel]

Talking of sacred cows, isn't Selles on the record saying something like: he wants to play in a certain way, and if there are players in the squad who can't fit into that, they need to be moved on? (heavy paraphrasing there BTW)
If so, where would Brewster fit in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-2-2?

Could feasibly play in both, as a winger in the 4-3-3 or in either advanced two in the 4-2-2-2.

At least we'll not get people saying he's resigned because Wilder wants to prove himself right. What he cost before is irrelevant now, if he's seen as value for money and Selles thinks he fits he'll stay. We need a squad and have a limited budget.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Could feasibly play in both, as a winger in the 4-3-3 or in either advanced two in the 4-2-2-2.

At least we'll not get people saying he's resigned because Wilder wants to prove himself right. What he cost before is irrelevant now, if he's seen as value for money and Selles thinks he fits he'll stay. We need a squad and have a limited budget.

You make a good point, but I don’t see him as a winger.

 

[AWetFlannel]

You make a good point, but I don’t see him as a winger.

I don't either really, but there are so many different types of winger now that perhaps he could fit what Selles wants. We've got a fair amount of squad depth as opposed to last season, so I doubt he'll be kept around just for numbers. I imagine he'll go.

 

[Uganda Blade]

Could feasibly play in both, as a winger in the 4-3-3 or in either advanced two in the 4-2-2-2.

At least we'll not get people saying he's resigned because Wilder wants to prove himself right. What he cost before is irrelevant now, if he's seen as value for money and Selles thinks he fits he'll stay. We need a squad and have a limited budget.

Feasibly in a 4-2-2, yes, but in a winger, don't we want players who can go past defenders and put in a cross? I don't think Brewster fits that definition.
Hopefully, as you say, the decision will hinge on whether Selles thinks he fits and he's value for money.