I hope Sheffield United don't come to regret this

[metalblade]

Yes, he has got things wrong but he has stabilised the club twice and been our best manager in my lifetime ( and that includes Dave Bassett and John Harris).

Seriously?

 

[Bradfordblade]

Yeah, I think so. close call between Wilder and Harry though

 

[FTPE]

I enjoy watching Liverpool and was glad they won the title. I have no particular beef with the manager or fans of Liverpool or Man City. Leeds are obviously a different and fairly unique matter, but I quite like their manager.

I don’t get the idea of making a virtue out of being disliked. It seems a bit weird.

It seems a bit weird to care.
They're my team. What does it matter how complimentary Roy's view is? We're never going to agree. I like the 'us against them' mentality. People want different things I guess. I like my manager to care, celebrate, speak from the heart. Obviously he's pushed the boundaries of professionalism, but to me he's a normal bloke that just runs a football team. He's not royalty or a politician, I don't expect him to act like something he's not.
Fans up and down the country would have been jealous of what we had, and today (or when it happens) the happiest fan base in the country will be Wednesday's.

 

[LBA_Blade]

On the new contract, we don't see the fine print so to speak, similar to relegation clauses and most of the bonuses etc, the board could have arranged an extension based on a promotion clause in Wilder's case. Ultimately the target for us was go back up however bad that would have looked come end of match day 1 25/26 season but we didn't, you could put your blame in several places however ultimately we didn't do enough against the promoted teams and dropped big points when it mattered. Don't forget on Fri 28th March we had just beaten Coventry, to go back to the top of the league, the next game up was on Saturday, 5 April against Oxford United away (which we lost), we then went on to lose to Millwall, Plymouth and Burnley. The "going up" even if in 2nd was very much in our own hands going into the last 7 games of the season and better results against the 3 games before the Burnley match (which on paper all 3 were winnable) would have had us in a one off fight match for going up, even drawing that game would have seen us in pole position for the 2nd automatic spot.

In sport/football is it a risky move, it is no more risky than bringing back Wilder after he walked away the 1st time. Football is a results driven business, my personal view is we need to move on from the "Mr Sheffield United" or "Mr Yorkshire" managers that we seem to attract. Under Wilder's first spell he was a breath of fresh air as he brought in players that played a brand of football that was a delight to watch. Yes he had the passion as a "fan in the chair" but we risk getting narrowminded. If he stays and doesn't achieve promotion next season, is it right to get rid then but then be in a position where we might need to sell some of our better assets/if a bid does come in due to them having 1 year rather 2 left on their contract, it would be more tempting to sell. I personally like a fresh personality in there that isn't afraid of changing formations and not sticking with the same faces because of some loyalty agenda. The Championship is a difficult league but it isn't impossible to get promotion as we have shown.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Yeah, I think so. close call between Wilder and Harry though

Neither quite as good as Harris.

 

[TJ blade]

So now we know that Chris Wilder is about to be replaced. All the views about Wilder both for and against have been discussed at length and I get arguments on both sides. But in the end this sems to be to be a very high risk decision. It is revealing to see comments from supporters of other clubs (who are more able to look at this objectively), calling this madness. The only way this decision would make any sense for me is if there had been a complete breakdown in relationship between board and manager and a huge bust up. However, according to Danny Hall and others this is not the case. There has been no fall out.

From a financial point of view this must be very expensive. From a football point of view it could be argued as reckless. OK, there are legitimate crticisms of Chris's selections, style of play and tactics but last season was still a good season, especially considering where we were pre - season. Any recruitment plans already made for next season will be torn up and we start again. Current squad members may now be seen as easy targets. We could lose some key players because of this other than Hamer, Souza and Anel. I can understand an argument that says we need a new approach and to freshen up things but the existing approach didn't do too badly last season did it? I can't think of anyone better qualified or better placed to lead the team next season than Chris Wilder and I would have preferred the board to have shown him some loyalty and stuck with him.

I have seen some comments on this forum that have been very disrespectful to Chris Wilder. Every supporter should remember where we were at the end of the Adkins season and the impact that Chris had over the next few years. Yes, he has got things wrong but he has stabilised the club twice and been our best manager in my lifetime ( and that includes Dave Bassett and John Harris). Chris should go with the heartfelt thanks of every Unitedite. I wish Selles well if he is to be Chris's successor. I hope he is an inspired choice and that this move from the board proves to be a stroke of genius. I hope I am completely wrong but I fear this day could be one that United regret for a long time.

Respect your opinion . better than Harris/ Bassett, never in a million years

 

[Bradfordblade]

Tough call I admit. Imagine if you could take and combine the best qualities of Wilder, Harris and Bassett. That would be some manager! We were luck th have all 3.

 

[b1ade4life]

It's such a huge decision, I'm a wilder fan, and he is a good fit for us, if he stays I'm confident we get at the very least top 6 and probably another attempt at top 2, if the new manager fails, we could then spend years chasing our tails trying to get another good fit for this club, as so many other clubs have done. It really is a sink or swim season for us coming up

 

[LBA_Blade]

It's such a huge decision, I'm a wilder fan, and he is a good fit for us, if he stays I'm confident we get at the very least top 6 and probably another attempt at top 2, if the new manager fails, we could then spend years chasing our tails trying to get another good fit for this club, as so many other clubs have done. It really is a sink or swim season for us coming up

The problem also lies with when/if we do go up what drive do we have financial and experience of staying there, I genuinely think going up although would have been a novelty by the play offs, we would have found ourselves trying to work out, what does Wilder 2.5 look like in the Premier League. We would be odds on for not only relegation but probably for beating "Derby's record" and probably Southampton's too. Then there is the chance that Wilder looks to walk in Feb/Mar again so these records aren't on his CV. He is only shown as being relegated once with us but the journos don't ever give the full picture in that 2nd season of the Prem "back door gate". As mentioned in the gap between the Premier League and EFL something needs to be done as how can we expect to compete, it is a closed shop just with a different 3 teams each season being the whipping boys and getting the odd result.

 

[Bladesince59]

I am guessing Wilder made a massive "over promise".

 

[Tezza1889]

Just once, we dont

There were a fair few Utd supporters who didn't as well

It was a conundrum wasn't it, but based on how we fared the last time around in the PL I couldn't blame them..

I selfishly wanted to see us win as I'm 56 this year, now my days at Wembley are over.. so I wont be in the crowd if it ever happens, I'm more bitter now than I was that day.

 

[chesblade]

Don’t think we need to worry about getting to prem, think we have seen the last of it for a long time.

 

[Panini]

Not exactly Wilder's fault that Brooks misses a one on one and Moore chooses not to square it to Campbell for a tap in. 99 times out of 100 we win that game.

I remember those 99 wins well, great memories...

Wilder conjured up the 1 win we didn't win, that's the point.

 

[Proper Blade]

Would that be the idiot who's company is leading the field in cancer tests ,or the one that Forbes votes top sead investor or the idiot that ran the Ohio team or the idiot who happens to be a top Hollywood producer seems being a idiot gets you to the top of your profession.

Any footballing achievements in that list?

Anything else is irrelevant.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Any footballing achievements in that list?

Anything else is irrelevant.

What would be the football achievements of any owner Liverpool's to name one ,man city to name 2 Chelsea to name three the list goes on and on ,think what you post

 

[Proper Blade]

What would be the football achievements of any owner Liverpool's to name one ,man city to name 2 Chelsea to name three the list goes on and on ,think what you post

Man City's owners have a bottomless pit of money. The others at least had sporting experience. We have some cunt who produced The Avengers. And I'm supposed to be impressed/in awe of a football chairman who has no relevant experience? Give me a break.

 

[Proper Blade]

Whose fault was it jack Robinson left mayenda with enough space to
Park a cruise ship. ?

I'll have a think about that - maybe Jack Robinson?

 

[Frank the tank]

I'll have a think about that - maybe Jack Robinson?

OOOORRRRRR. ?

 

[Bladeloyal]

Another numpy to block

 

[reedy63]

Metal Blade, maybe you are too young to have seen John Harris. That team, 1970-1972, are legendary. You would not say Wilder is better

 

[blade too long]

I'm clearly in the minority but I'm quite excited by the supposed appointment of Selles. Whenever I've watched his teams (including when Hull absolutely turned us over at home last season), they play with real purpose with quick forward passes and considerable movement off the ball

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Hull not hitting 50 points scares the shit out of me

 

[Eskimo]

Wilder has been an embarrassment this season also dull football tactics have been poor. Knilly is set in his old ways, set plays piss poor and i cant recall a united team so unfit after 60 mins all are them are on empty .Time to look forward now bring in a new manager and coaching team and take the hand brake off

Is that why we won all those points and beat all those teams then?

 

[Tazzy]

Is that why we won all those points and beat all those teams then?

Was you entertained last season ? and the teams we needed to beat we crumbled

 

[Eskimo]

Yes I was very happy every tine we won more games than any one else in the league including Wednesday twice. Sorry it wasn’t 5-0 evety week though. Selles won two out of the last 9 and got sacked by Hull how does he compare? This reminds me so much of when Warnock was sacked after narrowly securing our Premiership place. I honestly think they don’t know what they are doing. Gutted.

 

[cahill]

Nobody likes Liverpool or Man City do they?
Do any neutral fans like Leeds?

Yes I love em .Chest Wankers.

 

[cahill]

Yes I was very happy every tine we won more games than any one else in the league including Wednesday twice. Sorry it wasn’t 5-0 evety week though. Selles won two out of the last 9 and got sacked by Hull how does he compare? This reminds me so much of when Warnock was sacked after narrowly securing our Premiership place. I honestly think they don’t know what they are doing. Gutted.

Let the new guy get through the door first mate.

 

[blade too long]

Im not waiting ...that's me done...the whinge merchants have achieved what owls fans have tried for years .fucked us up big style ...some clueless under achiever in as they drive out a serial contender


Some of the boring football bollox is replaced by a man who got Hull to 49 points .....

I'll go again in November when he's sacked

 

[Frank the tank]

O

Im not waiting ...that's me done...the whinge merchants have achieved what owls fans have tried for years .fucked us up big style ...some clueless under achiever in as they drive out a serial contender


Some of the boring football bollox is replaced by a man who got Hull to 49 points .....

I'll go again in November when he's sacked

Don't bother

 

[Bradfordblade]

Roy's collation of comments from Hull and Reading fans is not very inspiring is it? This could easily go horribly wrong. It could be a an inspired masterstroke but my feeling is there is only about a 10 - 20 % chance of it being so.

 

[Hockey'sBeard]

I really do not understand why you would do this and particularly now.
I suspect a lot was to do with Wilders behaviour since signing new contract - (Plymouth away may have been the last straw for some of owners, if indeed it was a split decision) and the fines the team accrued.
I think we should have continued where we were into next season with Wilder. Big ask for a new manager to hit the ground running from pre-season.
Admit to knowing very little about Selles as a manager but replacing Wilder now just before pre-season with a manager who hardly set alight Southampton, Reading or Hull (admittedly I may be wrong) seems a strange choice…. I hope I am wrong - unfortunately I remember previous owners managerial choices - just hope I’m wrong -