Outgoing? Chris Wilder

[blade_ben]

I don't blame him for refusing whatsoever. These lot are more cheerleaders for the manager than any sort of serious media.

But, he had the accountant, star journalist and the vloggers as his cheerleaders, who now come across as tho they hate the club now he doesn’t own it!

 

[Working Class Hero]

Even those who want Wilder out the most, must still think we'll be at the top end of the table if he stays. Anything could happen with a new manager, and in our last year of parachute payments we can't afford to waste a season, or even spend a year building a new squad/identity. We don't have that luxury and if we appoint the wrong man, we're really in a bad place for the following season. It seems like a stupid gamble to me, to do it at this point.

 

[robbiez666]

Even those who want Wilder out the most, must still think we'll be at the top end of the table if he stays. Anything could happen with a new manager, and in our last year of parachute payments we can't afford to waste a season, or even spend a year building a new squad/identity. We don't have that luxury and if we appoint the wrong man, we're really in a bad place for the following season. It seems like a stupid gamble to me, to do it at this point.

It's a catch-22. We'd likely end up in the play-offs at worst with Wilder. But if we went up we'd likely come straight back down again. It's likely that a new manager and change of style/system would mean play-offs at best. However, I don't think we need to go up next year. Parachute payments or not. The season after though...

Leicester sacking Pearson was a gamble....They often don't work out but sometimes they do.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It's a catch-22. We'd likely end up in the play-offs at worst with Wilder. But if we went up we'd likely come straight back down again. It's likely that a new manager and change of style/system would mean play-offs at best. However, I don't think we need to go up next year. Parachute payments or not. The season after though...

If we don’t go up losses will increase requiring funding to cover them which could be spent on players. That’s without even thinking about mandatory player sales.

 

[LondonRoad]

It's a catch-22. We'd likely end up in the play-offs at worst with Wilder. But if we went up we'd likely come straight back down again. It's likely that a new manager and change of style/system would mean play-offs at best. However, I don't think we need to go up next year. Parachute payments or not. The season after though...

Leicester sacking Pearson was a gamble....They often don't work out but sometimes they do.

If we don't go up next year, we have more chance of mixing in the same circles as our "chums" in S6 than attracting players for another assault the season after. The financial restrictions mean that we would need a miracle, or a Wilder, to get into the position we are now. Be careful what you wish for

 

[robbiez666]

If we don’t go up losses will increase requiring funding to cover them which could be spent on players. That’s without even thinking about mandatory player sales.

Oh, agreed, but I assume the new owners can absorb those loses for a limited period of time. They have a plan and I'm pretty sure this plan isn't contingent on us being a yo-yo club every season. Changing style/approach is never likely to have instant results. Look at Brentford. It looks them years

 

[robbiez666]

If we don't go up next year, we have more chance of mixing in the same circles as our "chums" in S6 than attracting players for another assault the season after. The financial restrictions mean that we would need a miracle, or a Wilder, to get into the position we are now. Be careful what you wish for

It's a gamble but given the type of players under the current way of doing things costs a ridiculous amount of money, I'm sure the owners might see the risk as worthwhile.

 

[LondonRoad]

It's a gamble but given the type of players under the current way of doing things costs a ridiculous amount of money, I'm sure the owners might see the risk as worthwhile.

We'll see. Fingers crossed

 

[Booker4]

Get the impression it's not gonna be early this week to know. It's very frustrating to say the least

It's a gamble but given the type of players under the current way of doing things costs a ridiculous amount of money, I'm sure the owners might see the risk as worthwhile.

I don't think last summers signings cost a ridiculous amount though Robbie. Nor would Dunne for starters.

It will cost them a lot more if they appoint the wrong man and we miss out on promotion.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Get the impression it's not gonna be early this week to know. It's very frustrating to say the least

I don't think last summers signings cost a ridiculous amount though Robbie. Nor would Dunne for starters.

It will cost them a lot more if they appoint the wrong man and we miss out on promotion.

And how much will it cost if CW turns out to be the wrong man? Based of course, like your comment, with no recruitment/sales details funding whatsoever.

How much has it cost us this year? That’s a bit easier to work out.

 

[robbiez666]

Get the impression it's not gonna be early this week to know. It's very frustrating to say the least

I don't think last summers signings cost a ridiculous amount though Robbie. Nor would Dunne for starters.

It will cost them a lot more if they appoint the wrong man and we miss out on promotion.

Let us not forget about January!

Or his signings in the top flight.

He only wants to pay top dollar for British players (or players with a track record here).

It's never going to work in the top flight.

 

[Blade56]

I’m still excited that we may actually be about to see a paradigm shift in the way the club has been run recently.

Fed up of doing well(ish) on a shoe string with skint owners resulting in crash and burn.

Wilders done a fantastic job pulling us out of L1 and getting us established in the higher end of the championship. But he’s done it his way because the club was stuck in the old ways of doing things. To a degree it worked with grit, guts and pashun.

But hopefully, and this is what I’m excited about, we have new owners (hopefully resourced better than previous owners), they are talking the talk of a slick, modern football club utilising all the modern concepts hopefully steaming into a new way

By contrast not steaming into court cases, fraudsters trying to get a bargain, gambling on loans, punts and journeymen.

Tomorrow is a new dawn for SUFC that’s what’s exciting me as well as shirts and giggles along the way.

It could all go wrong, but at least we tried to move forward not stand still.

 

[bertieblade]

Mmm.

After almost a week you would expect some statement to confirm or deny. It's making Wilder and the club look weak either way.
Not a good advert, nothing to do with entitlement

What do you expect them to say?
No decision has been reached at the moment, is apparently the truth so why do they need to say anything ?

Businesses only issue statements when they have something worthwhile to say, until then they expect any interested parties to draw their own conclusions.

 

[KOPPO]

he is still the blades gaffer he is one of us a true blade he takes no crapo .so in tufty we trust

 

[radio]

If Wilder does leave none of the possible replacements suggested excite me as much as I would be excited if we were looking for a manager and one of those available had won 92 points last season in our league

 

[HeySethUTB]

Have they been given food and water? Seriously discussion’s have been going on now for a week.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

I'm glad discussions are going on for as long as it takes.
It's a huge decision.
Can Wilder get on board with the new systems and methods they are talking about? If so and he does it properly and with belief, they might want to keep him. That takes some time.
If he doesn't they might want to replace him. But only if a better option exists, is available, and wants it. That takes time.

I know we live in a world of zero patience now. Uber eats, Amazon delivery and instant Google answers to anything. Unfortunately most real life doesn't work like that.
Let them do the job properly. We'll find out , when they know.

 

[KOPPO]

them who dont want him in charge youll regret it if he goes ,HES TUFTY THE BLADES GOD he takes no fools.hes the king sufc gaffer .utb.

 

[54yrblade]

them who dont want him in charge youll regret it if he goes ,HES TUFTY THE BLADES GOD he takes no fools.hes the king sufc gaffer .utb.

Stockholm syndrome

 

[NerdyBlade]

them who dont want him in charge youll regret it if he goes ,HES TUFTY THE BLADES GOD he takes no fools.hes the king sufc gaffer .utb.

 

[TJ blade]

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I’m still excited that we may actually be about to see a paradigm shift in the way the club has been run recently.

Fed up of doing well(ish) on a shoe string with skint owners resulting in crash and burn.

Wilders done a fantastic job pulling us out of L1 and getting us established in the higher end of the championship. But he’s done it his way because the club was stuck in the old ways of doing things. To a degree it worked with grit, guts and pashun.

But hopefully, and this is what I’m excited about, we have new owners (hopefully resourced better than previous owners), they are talking the talk of a slick, modern football club utilising all the modern concepts hopefully steaming into a new way

By contrast not steaming into court cases, fraudsters trying to get a bargain, gambling on loans, punts and journeymen.

Tomorrow is a new dawn for SUFC that’s what’s exciting me as well as shirts and giggles along the way.

It could all go wrong, but at least we tried to move forward not stand still.

Excellent post

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

I suppose the difference with other privately owned businesses is that football clubs have tens of thousands of paying fans to appease, I get your points but there is a difference when discissions are being made in meetings because they know the fans need/want to know what's going on.

Aye
But,
I’m a (massive) fan of Morrisons own brand low salt low sugar baked beans (four pack).
Absent from the shelves since 24 May with no explanation from Morrisons HQ
Every time I go shopping theres hoards of disorientated (healthy living) customers milling around aimlessly whilst demanding action under their breath

This is compounded by them ceasing (apparently refusing) to stock ‘Hammond Chop Sauce’ again with no ‘explanation’ proffered

My disgruntlement is such that I may take my custom elsewhere. (Massive ) Asda nearby and they sell John West tuna & Chuppa Chups (separately - canned fish aisle: confectionery aisle)

Morrisons will fucking rue the day they didn’t keep me ‘informed’

 

[Bladesman]

Hits Radio (Formerly Hallam FM) are saying some sort of decision or announcement will be made today.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I’m still excited that we may actually be about to see a paradigm shift in the way the club has been run recently.

Fed up of doing well(ish) on a shoe string with skint owners resulting in crash and burn.

Wilders done a fantastic job pulling us out of L1 and getting us established in the higher end of the championship. But he’s done it his way because the club was stuck in the old ways of doing things. To a degree it worked with grit, guts and pashun.

But hopefully, and this is what I’m excited about, we have new owners (hopefully resourced better than previous owners), they are talking the talk of a slick, modern football club utilising all the modern concepts hopefully steaming into a new way

By contrast not steaming into court cases, fraudsters trying to get a bargain, gambling on loans, punts and journeymen.

Tomorrow is a new dawn for SUFC that’s what’s exciting me as well as shirts and giggles along the way.

It could all go wrong, but at least we tried to move forward not stand still.

I'm the same as you. I'm sick of always hearing what we are based on what we've always been. I want to see what we could become instead. If that takes 2 or 3 seasons in the Championship to get there then so be it.

Without arrogance intended, to see clubs like Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth come from below and behind us to way ahead in front is annoying given the potential that we have. For this club to more forward we've needed new owners who hopefully have more financial gulf than our last two, and we also need a young manager who's in tune with the modern game and not just focused on results.

A manager's job these days is not only to win games but to coach and develop his players. Improve your players and you'll more likely get the results that you seek. Being honest, not one player improved from the start of last season to the end.

 

[Bladesman]

Id be more worried about a stoning
Blade56

Blade56 always has stones to hand.

 

[MartBlade]

I'm the same as you. I'm sick of always hearing what we are based on what we've always been. I want to see what we could become instead. If that takes 2 or 3 seasons in the Championship to get there then so be it.

Without arrogance intended, to see clubs like Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth come from below and behind us to way ahead in front is annoying given the potential that we have. For this club to more forward we've needed new owners who hopefully have more financial gulf than our last two, and we also need a young manager who's in tune with the modern game and not just focused on results.

A manager's job these days is not only to win games but to coach and develop his players. Improve your players and you'll more likely get the results that you seek. Being honest, not one player improved from the start of last season to the end.

I agree with the sentiment and your main point but Souza, Peck, Seriki and Burrows all improved significantly last season. I think I’d probably include Campbell too although his fitness issues are obviously concerning. Surely even Wilders biggest critic can’t believe that he doesn’t develop and progress players - it’s one of his biggest strengths.

 

[DifferentClass]

Izzegonyet?

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I agree with the sentiment and your main point but Souza, Peck, Seriki and Burrows all improved significantly last season. I think I’d probably include Campbell too although his fitness issues are obviously concerning. Surely even Wilders biggest critic can’t believe that he doesn’t develop and progress players - it’s one of his biggest strengths.

Souza improved on the previous season in the Premier League but was the same throughout last season. From the first game to the last he was very consistent and reliable, but he wasn't better at the end of the season to how he was when he started it.

Peck, I'd have to disagree on. He came in full of energy but was very hit and miss. Good one game, headless chicken the next. His passing could be good one game, woeful the next. This continued throughout the season. Good in the play off semis, awful in the final. He was the same at the end to how he was when he started.

Seriki, hard to judge. Again, good one game, average the next when not injured, but difficult to judge overall as he never got a consistent run in the team, just a handful of cameos here and there.

Burrows, again I'd have to disagree. He started brilliantly, faded out after Christmas and wasn't the same, then came back to life again in the play offs. He ended the season how he started it but he wasn't any better. He was just as good.

Overall, I was referring to from the first game of last season to the last game, who improved and was a better player at the end to how they were at the start of the season? I can only think one of maybe Brewster, but he didn't contributed much in terms of goals and assists despite the improvement in overall play.

Wilder is good at plucking players from lower leagues and getting them up to Championship level, but once they're here he's so focused on his system and tactics that they don't get much better. He changes them to suit his system instead of vice versa, which would aid their development more. How many Premier League teams have come in for our players while Wilder has been in charge?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

We demand a press conference

 

[sufc323]

I’m still excited that we may actually be about to see a paradigm shift in the way the club has been run recently.

Fed up of doing well(ish) on a shoe string with skint owners resulting in crash and burn.

Wilders done a fantastic job pulling us out of L1 and getting us established in the higher end of the championship. But he’s done it his way because the club was stuck in the old ways of doing things. To a degree it worked with grit, guts and pashun.

But hopefully, and this is what I’m excited about, we have new owners (hopefully resourced better than previous owners), they are talking the talk of a slick, modern football club utilising all the modern concepts hopefully steaming into a new way

By contrast not steaming into court cases, fraudsters trying to get a bargain, gambling on loans, punts and journeymen.

Tomorrow is a new dawn for SUFC that’s what’s exciting me as well as shirts and giggles along the way.

It could all go wrong, but at least we tried to move forward not stand still.

Good post.

Having thought about it for the past few days, I think a change might be good although it will split the fan base. I think we've gone as far as we can with Wilder, we're never going to replicate the 9th in the PL again with the current set up as the game has moved on dramatically since then.

I could have told you Wilder's 4 targets that he lined up before they even made the press, it's all very one dimensional and predictable. Add to that, the football last season was not entertaining at all, we had no clear system and got out thought regularly. Yes, we were winning games, but a lot of that was down to individual talent as opposed to tactics.

In some ways I think having Wilder in charge holds us back, everything appears to be on his terms and it's seems that managing him is like walking on eggshells. He is perhaps too emotionally attached to the club and wants control on a lot of things, which isn't in line with the modern game or in order to us progress as a club.

He'll always be a Blades legend but I think now is the right time to part ways.