New Manager ?

[SouthStandGBlock]

Rather simplistically. If we upgrade our manager I’ll be happy (and surprised), if we take a punt on another manager I’ll be disappointed but take a holding position, if we keep Wilder I’ll be pleased and take a holding position.

Is Rob Holding signing then?

 

[alcoblade]

Which therein lies the problem. Wilder won’t and can’t operate under that premise.

Do we know that for sure? I'm almost certain that, for example, Rak Saki wasn't his choice. We've already signed 3 players using ai under his tenure.

 

[Blade56]

Any sign of any colored smoke coming from the BL chimney??

Yeh, looks like it’s a close call though…….

 

[Danetheblade]

Do we know that for sure? I'm almost certain that, for example, Rak Saki wasn't his choice. We've already signed 3 players using ai under his tenure.

From us signing the player yesterday, to Nixon making comments. To him saying he wouldn’t be willing to work under a DOF/He wants the full control of signing players, I’d say yeah.

 

[Greenblades]

The fans will be split as soon as we lose three on the bounce, if not as soon as he's appointed.

Yep that’s football! All about opinions. Mine are he could and should have done better. Others will disagree. I’m fine with that.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Yep that’s football! All about opinions. Mine are he could and should have done better. Others will disagree. I’m fine with that.

Absolutely fine about opinions regarding how a manager is doing, that is healthy, it’s just the pile on to sack a manager just because everything isn’t perfect that is the issue.

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Well I typed ‘Blades new manager’ into the ai and got 42!

 

[Mattblade68]

Can you put a bet on wilder at moment anywhere?

 

[dc_blade]

You're right, I should have said only 1 in 6 expected us to do better than we did. And I suspect almost none thought we'd get 92 points.

Yeah, I don't agree with the (handful of) people saying he underperformed either. I just don't subscribe to the narrative that he was starved of resources and performed miracles getting us where he did. It was reasonable to expect us to be top six once the emotion of the previous season was out of the way. For me he did better than par up until Christmas (with some reservations about the style of play) and substantially worse than par post-Christmas.

 

[Booker4]

So under the new owners we haven't signed anyone other than them 3?

Nobody knows but the others look far more like Wilder signings go me. The jury is still out on the recruitment of the new buses. Danny Hall said in an article today that the board are looking again at the Peruvian league. That's a huge jump in standard. I know they could be development players but it's still a big leap in standard.

 

[Bladesman101]

Seems like it’s bollocks thankfully

 

[The Crab]

All these holding position is like standing at the Urinal and pissing away another season

We need to move forwards not stand still , not just in the manager but in coaching staff, medical , conditioning, recruitment, infrastructure, all if it.

Apparently we don’t

How dare we want better

 

[Youngand70]

I do say as it’s highly likely SB was following the owners lead rather than an anti DOF rant. Now he’s on the new board and the reasoning has changed do you really expect him to stick with a policy that was that of a man enamoured again with CW?

I don’t understand your denial point, assuming it’s referring to something l’ve posted.

No nothing to do with anything you have specifically posted just the general number of people who are anti the way club management structures world wide have changed from the old ways. 63 years being a Blade, I like many others want a new direction, that doesn't mean ignoring the history, the successes and of course the failures.

 

[blade_ben]

Nobody knows but the others look far more like Wilder signings go me. The jury is still out on the recruitment of the new buses. Danny Hall said in an article today that the board are looking again at the Peruvian league. That's a huge jump in standard. I know they could be development players but it's still a big leap in standard.

Danny Hall in reality only knows what his mate Wilder tells him. Funny how him, the account and the vloggers come across as anti United now there mate the Prince has gone.

 

[S17 Blade 1889]

What we know so far, either:
1. He's been sacked full comp
2. Mutual per a non promotion agreement
3. Sacked and agreeing comp
4. Pushed into quiting with new model
5. Sat in kitchen with a Peroni laughing
6. Still on holiday laughing
7. All of the above
I love United

 

[AWetFlannel]

Brewster a million percent were. Cannon allegedly were. He’s incapable of spending brass on decent players.

Ramsdale and Berge worked out well and came for big fees. Egan was a record/equalled our record transfer.

In reality, nobody knows how much input Wilder has into any transfer. It's always a combination of coaches, scouts and owners. This narrative is so tedious.

 

[alcoblade]

Yeah, I don't agree with the (handful of) people saying he underperformed either. I just don't subscribe to the narrative that he was starved of resources and performed miracles getting us where he did. It was reasonable to expect us to be top six once the emotion of the previous season was out of the way. For me he did better than par up until Christmas (with some reservations about the style of play) and substantially worse than par post-Christmas.

Agreed. Not sacking stuff though is it?

 

[Champagneblade]

I was starting to think this also.

Now i have sat back and recovered from the end of the season, i have tried to put myself in the owners shoes ( who have a hell of a lot more riding on this than i have) and if the stories are true, i guess i can understand why they may think a change is best now.

IF they are looking to spend, would they want CW spending there money (looking back at January when they were at the club)?

A few players brought in (either loans or fees) with very very limited success.

IF CW is going to spend there money, he will go and get CW players (which is understandable as hes the boss), but if a change is made, will the money spent then be wasted as a new boss may want to play a different style?

I guess the big question is, how much confidence do the owners have in CW from the time they have been in charge.

Do we even need to spend?

We need a right back, a centre back, a winger and possibly another striker.

We can achieve what is required by modest outlay. The current situation doesn’t require a mass spend, it requires tweeking.

Dunne, Darling and a couple of choice loans and you’d be in a good spot. I’d say Mepham but he seems to have had his deal extended.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

All these holding position is like standing at the Urinal and pissing away another season

We need to move forwards not stand still , not just in the manager but in coaching staff, medical , conditioning, recruitment, infrastructure, all if it.

Know what you mean, though I meant I’d be in a holding position in terms of coming to a conclusion, rather than the club. Indeed, the deciding factor in my deliberations is if we see progress.

 

[unitedbhoy]

Ramsdale and Berge worked out well and came for big fees. Egan was a record/equalled our record transfer.

In reality, nobody knows how much input Wilder has into any transfer. It's always a combination of coaches, scouts and owners. This narrative is so tedious.

Ramsdale worked out well??

 

[AWetFlannel]

Ramsdale worked out well??

Player of the season and young player of the season and sold for a profit? Did he need to score a few goals as well?

 

[unitedbhoy]

Player of the season and young player of the season and sold for a profit? Did he need to score a few goals as well?

Give over he was diving over balls the first half of the season and was a huge reason we were so bad.

He started playing better once we were well gone.

Crap player.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Scenes when Monty persuades Ange to join us

 

[AWetFlannel]

Give over he was diving over balls the first half of the season and was a huge reason we were so bad.

He started playing better once we were well gone.

Crap player.

I'm just stating facts mate. He was voted player of the season by fans and went to Arsenal to be their first choice for a large profit.

That you think a signing of that level suggests Wilder can only sign crap players for big fees shows how ridiculous this narrative is.

 

[skyjam]

Prick

would you invite him to your house eh?

 

[MartBlade]

This is what I like to hear from owners in report in todays The Star.

“We will do this by continuing the forward thinking work we have already begun,” they added, “to address some of the foundations at the club that underpin our ability to succeed. We are working tirelessly to become stronger in the crucial area of recruitment. We will do this by using data and analytics far more effectively to recruit the best and brightest talent.”

Buy the way that wasn’t Wilders quote

It sounds good but I’ll be more impressed when one or two of these signings show up in our first team.
In the mean time, I’m concerned that there is absolutely no movement on the new training ground and therefore our biggest asset (the Academy) will continue to not be Cat A.
The Academy is absolutely proven in providing first team players and income so I’ll be happier when COH demonstrate some progress with the upgrade.

 

[Alfiesdad]

Irrespective of whether Wilder goes or stays, what is the expectation for next seasons league position?
The people wanting him out obviously expect promotion because the new incumbent must be better than Wilder, and as he only managed a 3rd placed finish, success is assured.
Incidently, we could have got promoted this season and the usual suspects would have wanted him out because he apparently can't manage in the Prem.
We should actually be better next season having settled in to our new playing formation and with the benefit from our greater expertise with recruitment, so the new man can have few excuses for not delivering.
I was initially doubting the wisdom of getting rid of Wilder but I think I've just talked myself round.
The club would be mad not to offer a Ten year prem return ticket on the back of this.

 

[Aston max]

Do we even need to spend?

We need a right back, a centre back, a winger and possibly another striker.

We can achieve what is required by modest outlay. The current situation doesn’t require a mass spend, it requires tweeking.

Dunne, Darling and a couple of choice loans and you’d be in a good spot. I’d say Mepham but he seems to have had his deal extended.

2 centre halves,right back and 3 forward thinking attacking players .
I'm probably one of the few who thinks cannon could come good !!
And a decent back up keeper but not fussed
I was 50/50 about wilder till the play off final, Brewster should not have started and holding should !!
Wilder's problem is he's always right and be damned if you disagree

 

[The Fox]

Know what you mean, though I meant I’d be in a holding position in terms of coming to a conclusion, rather than the club. Indeed, the deciding factor in my deliberations is if we see progress.

Yep , it was tongue on cheek to a degree .
I think it's right that we at least seek progress, we may not achieve it but I want you see positive intentions and ambition.
All comes with risk but so does standing still.

 

[Blade56]

It sounds good but I’ll be more impressed when one or two of these signings show up in our first team.
In the mean time, I’m concerned that there is absolutely no movement on the new training ground and therefore our biggest asset (the Academy) will continue to not be Cat A.
The Academy is absolutely proven in providing first team players and income so I’ll be happier when COH demonstrate some progress with the upgrade.

That’s more likely planning consent. If you’ve ever been involved it can take months.