New Manager ?

[WayneAllison]

A top six finish in the Championship is a very decent season for us.

Over the past 40 seasons ((excluding top flight seasons) we've achieved a second tier top six finish around ten times (and been promoted four times). The rest of the seasons we've finished lower than top six

No no it isn’t


Wilder has drilled it into your Brain that it’s a good finish so we can all go look at what a job he’s done



The same could be said for hecky when he took over and everyone said what a job he did


He had Berge / MGW / Ndiaye £200 Mill worth of talent

 

[luffenhamblade]

No no it isn’t


Wilder has drilled it into your Brain that it’s a good finish so we can all go look at what a job he’s done



The same could be said for hecky when he took over and everyone said what a job he did


He had Berge / MGW / Ndiaye £200 Mill worth of talent

When you say no it isn't, please remember it is an opinion, not fact. Some agree, some don't. What you are saying is your opinion is that it isn't the case. My opinion differs but is equally valid.

 

[Blade56]

Nope. I have been a Blade for 43 years and know what normally happens when we sack a decent manager.

It is worth taking a look at our managerial history, and reminding ourselves how changing a manager (especially a decent one) tends to work out. OK not all of these were sacked - but the replacements for our four most successful managers (Bassett, Porterfield, Warnock, Wilder first spell) were all worse.

'Good decision' means a promotion was achieved (even if we did not stay up). 75% of our changes have not been 'good decisions'. I do not include partial seasons where the new manager was unable to prevent relegation (Bassett, Wilder)

In my lifetime -

Sirrel for Furphy - relegation to 2nd tier
Haslam for Sirrel - relegation to 3rd tier
Peters for Haslam relegation to 4th tier
Porterfield for Peters - good decision
McKewan for Porterfield -relegation to third tier (confirmed after Basset took over)
Basset for McKewan - good decision
Kendall for Bassett - no promotion or relegation
Spackman for Kendall - no promotion or relegation
Bruce for Spackman - no promotion or relegation
Heath for Bruce - no promotion or relegation
Warnock for Heath - good decision
Blackwell for Warnock - no promotion or relegation
Speed for Blackwell - no promotion or relegation
Adams for Speed - relegation to 3rd tier
Wilson for Adams - no promotion or relegation
Weir for Wilson - no promotion or relegation
Clough for Weir - no promotion or relegation
Wilder for Clough - good decision
Slav for Wilder - no promotion or relegation
Hecky for Slav - good decision
Wilder for Hecky - no promotion or relegation (relegation confirmed after CW took over)

Stop looking backwards……That’s our problem

 

[Harry's Game]

A top six finish in the Championship is a very decent season for us.

Over the past 40 seasons ((excluding top flight seasons) we've achieved a second tier top six finish around ten times (and been promoted four times). The rest of the seasons we've finished lower than top six

The style of how we do it matters as well

2018/19. Mainly attacking front foot football two strikers scoring nearly 40 goals between them defenders getting forward..

2024/25. Mainly Get a goal in front shut up shop try to see it out with the occasional counter attack…

 

[MayorOJC]

The style of how we do it matters as well

2018/19. Mainly attacking front foot football two strikers scoring nearly 40 goals between them defenders getting forward..

2024/25. Mainly Get a goal in front shut up shop try to see it out with the occasional counter attack…

You forgot "launch the ball 80 yards and hope something happens"

 

[Dkc]

No no it isn’t


Wilder has drilled it into your Brain that it’s a good finish so we can all go look at what a job he’s done.

I suggest you look at our history over the past half-century and where we've finished each season.

Wilder hasn't drilled anything into my brain. I've experienced 46 seasons supporting the Blades. I know for a fact that a top 6 Championship finish is historically a good season.

 

[Dkc]

The style of how we do it matters as well

If that were the case why is 'kick and rush' pioneer Bassett held in such high regard? Constant long balls trying to pick out a big striker aren't pretty to watch.

Maybe Bassett's held in high regard because he took us from the third tier to the top flight, and not because we played like Barcelona,

 

[Harry's Game]

If that were the case why is 'kick and rush' pioneer Bassett held in such high regard? Constant long balls trying to pick out a big striker aren't pretty to watch.

Maybe Bassett's held in high regard because he took us from the third tier to the top flight, and not because we played like Barcelona,

we scored tons of goals under Bassett in the two promotion seasons.. I’m not against direct football as long a it’s attacking.. Deane , Agana, Bryson etc were really good to watch..

10 passes around the back four and keeper before it’s launched to one man isolated on his own however ?

You can see the difference right?

 

[S17 Blade 1889]

I suggest you look at our history over the past half-century and where we've finished each season.

Wilder hasn't drilled anything into my brain. I've experienced 46 seasons supporting the Blades. I know for a fact that a top 6 Championship finish is historically a good season.

Surely a top 6 finish in the Championship being good is the problem we need to solve by improving?

 

[Dkc]

we scored tons of goals under Bassett in the two promotion seasons.. I’m not against direct football as long a it’s attacking.. Deane , Agana, Bryson etc were really good to watch..

10 passes around the back four and keeper before it’s launched to one man isolated on his own however ?

You can see the difference right?

The game's changed. Teams learned to defend against kick and rush and they learned to defend against attacking centre backs.

If you have a new tactic in mind that allows us to win games while keeping a solid defence scoring lots of goals and constantly playing flowing, attacking football, please let Wilder and Knill know.

 

[Dkc]

Surely a top 6 finish in the Championship being good is the problem we need to solve by improving?

I don't see it as a problem. We're not Liverpool or Man City. We're Sheffield United. Similar size club to West Brom, Middlesborough or Coventry. I'm happy we're competing for promotion and not struggling in League One. Automatic promotion would be an unexpected bonus.

 

[Harry's Game]

The game's changed. Teams learned to defend against kick and rush and they learned to defend against attacking centre backs.

If you have a new tactic in mind that allows us to win games while keeping a solid defence scoring lots of goals and constantly playing flowing, attacking football, please let Wilder and Knill know.

Or maybe study the Leeds United end of season video

 

[54yrblade]

Watched the Portugal v Spain game last night.

What could be with a tactically aware, positive management team and a steady build up of the club and it's people.

I'm not asking for international level football but we deserve better at BDTBL.

Exhibit 2 Your honour

Belgium v Wales

End to end, goals, drama (while VAR did it's best to poison the well)

Craig Bellamy. Old fashioned, quality footballer with the ability to communicate, change, adapt and create an exciting team.

 

[MayorOJC]

I don't see it as a problem. We're not Liverpool or Man City. We're Sheffield United. Similar size club to West Brom, Middlesborough or Coventry. I'm happy we're competing for promotion and not struggling in League One. Automatic promotion would be an unexpected bonus.

I don't think we can be compared to Coventry when we have Brewster (£25m), Hamer (£15m), Souza (£10m), Cannon (£10m) Choudhury (50k per week) in our squad. We've got to drop this "little old Sheffield United" attitude. We're not Liverpool or Man City, but we absolutely are compared to most teams in this league (Sunderland included). We should be in a much better position than we are with the amount spent.

 

[S17 Blade 1889]

I don't see it as a problem. We're not Liverpool or Man City. We're Sheffield United. Similar size club to West Brom, Middlesborough or Coventry. I'm happy we're competing for promotion and not struggling in League One. Automatic promotion would be an unexpected bonus.

Man City were not the current Man City once, but had ambition and investment not pashun.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Absolutely. Shoot for the stars and you might hit the moon...

This plucky old pahsun Utd mantra is getting tired.

 

[Dkc]

Or maybe study the Leeds United end of season video

Leeds won one more game than us over the season.

If we'd hung onto our lead when we played them at home, we'd have more wins than them.

 

[Dkc]

Absolutely. Shoot for the stars and you might hit the moon...

This plucky old pahsun Utd mantra is getting tired.

That's just semantics. Of course we are aiming high. Along with two other high-performing teams we were well-clear at the top, and the points we gained would be enough for promotion nine times out of ten.

One of the three high-performing teams had to miss out on automatic, and that was unfortunately us.

 

[Woodhouseblades]

I don't see it as a problem. We're not Liverpool or Man City. We're Sheffield United. Similar size club to West Brom, Middlesborough or Coventry. I'm happy we're competing for promotion and not struggling in League One. Automatic promotion would be an unexpected bonus.

No wonder we never get anywhere as a club. Our fanbase needs to be more ambitious, why are we so happy with mediocrity? Boro have been much more successful than us, they have been in Europe and won the league cup in the past 25 years. West Brom have spent much more time in the Prem than us. We should be aspiring for much more for a club our size.

 

[Dkc]

No wonder we never get anywhere as a club. Our fanbase needs to be more ambitious, why are we so happy with mediocrity? Boro have been much more successful than us, they have been in Europe and won the league cup in the past 25 years. West Brom have spent much more time in the Prem than us. We should be aspiring for much more for a club our size.

Gaining 92 points in the Championship isn't mediocrity. It's automatic form.

 

[Harry's Game]

Leeds won one more game than us over the season.

If we'd hung onto our lead when we played them at home, we'd have more wins than them.

Didn’t though did we? I wonder why that was?

They also lost a lot less and were a much better watch scored 95 goals to our 63 whilst also managing to concede less as well.

Give me that type of football to the boring dross we had to suffer most of the season

 

[N20 Blade]

Our style of play was set by knill because of the brilliance that Souttar was in in defence and it worked very effectively so no need to change. Souttar wasn’t replaced and we didn’t adapt to another pattern and instead we continued to play the same way. My posts said as much months ago when I said we had the attacking players to play another way. If he’s still here is first job is to get a Souttar style player even if he costs 5m and then look at what areas we need further forward as they will sell and fingers crossed the board don’t bring in another couple of players found in teams from a league in Uzbekistan. Interestingly most on here slated me for berating previous owners but if the board bring in tons of AI players this summer I’ll be going mental again.

100% losing Souttar was huge, but I think there is an element of rosy retrospection at play. Leeds beat us easily. Sunderland should have done and he was sent off. Burnley swatted us aside, and he played most of the game.

With him fit or a like for like replacement, would we have finished top 2? Would we have won at Wembley? Honestly, not so sure.

 

[mick300869]

The game's changed. Teams learned to defend against kick and rush and they learned to defend against attacking centre backs.

If you have a new tactic in mind that allows us to win games while keeping a solid defence scoring lots of goals and constantly playing flowing, attacking football, please let Wilder and Knill know.

Can someone tell our defence that as I sh!T myself anytime anyone gets near our goal

 

[CPB]

Gaining 92 points in the Championship isn't mediocrity. It's automatic form.

92 points next season will get you top 2.
Cannot see it being another 2 teams bettering that again.

 

[Le Cynique]

That's just semantics. Of course we are aiming high. Along with two other high-performing teams we were well-clear at the top, and the points we gained would be enough for promotion nine times out of ten.

One of the three high-performing teams had to miss out on automatic, and that was unfortunately us.

IMO seeing promotion as the end goal is short-sighted. We need to be planning for what we do after promotion and how that will help us maintain a position in the top flight.

 

[raul]

Gaining 92 points in the Championship isn't mediocrity. It's automatic form.

Looking forward to the fixtures coming out. Fingers crossed for Everton away first game.

 

[Dkc]

Looking forward to the fixtures coming out. Fingers crossed for Everton away first game.

Bound to lose

 

[raul]

Bound to lose

That's the spirit mate.

 

[Danetheblade]

Bound to lose

You can’t lose if you’re not in it

 

[Blade56]

Stop looking backwards……That’s our problem

This is what I like to hear from owners in report in todays The Star.

“We will do this by continuing the forward thinking work we have already begun,” they added, “to address some of the foundations at the club that underpin our ability to succeed. We are working tirelessly to become stronger in the crucial area of recruitment. We will do this by using data and analytics far more effectively to recruit the best and brightest talent.”

Buy the way that wasn’t Wilders quote