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Hi all, given the ongoing chat about AI's role in football recruitment, I thought I'd try an experiment with Gemini. I asked it to put together a transfer strategy for us for the Summer 2025 window, setting some pretty firm guidelines. A £35 million budget, 10 specific positions to reinforce with players under 28, and instruction to use only 2024/25 season data to address the weaknesses we saw this year. I asked it to assume that Hamer, Souza, Anel and Brewster were all leaving.

The AI didn't just list names, it actually built an interactive online dashboard.

The actual player suggestions it came up with were a mixed bag - some good ideas, others not so much (please no Michael Keane) and not all ideas are realistic. In once case, it seems to have invented a player (Ozcan at Arsenal)?. But overall, it gives an interesting peek into the kind of data-driven research that might be happening behind the scenes. McBurnie lovers will be delighted.

Take a look for yourselves:

 
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Stije Resink, you say? 🤔

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Player Suggestion Thread 'Stije Resink - Groningen'

Stije Resink, 21 yr old who plays the left side of the 2 in a 4-2-1 for Groningen in the Eredivisie. His stats are very similar to Jobe Bellingham's.

He excels at progressive passing and ball recovery but needs to improve his goal efficiency, ball retention, and discipline. He's known for his aggressive play, which leads to high ball recovery stats but also results in a high number of fouls and yellow cards. His strengths include progressive passing, where he ranks in the top quartile, and his ability to win tackles and aerial duels. However, his goal efficiency and ball retention...
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Kyle_Walker's_Son said:
Which tools did you use to generate the dashboard? Just Gemini? Seriously impressive
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All done within Gemini Pro. It has a "Deep Research" feature, which built a fully cited 15-page research paper on it. It also has a "Canvas" feature which turns the research paper into a website / podcast / whatever else. Impressive but slightly scary stuff.
 
I seriously know jack shit about technology.

However I would request : - 'please put forward the best available, affordable players that can replicate the SUFC defensive 6 of 2018-2020'.

Not one of our existing defensive players would get in that side put together by Wilder in those seasons. We have to start from somewhere.

We should not accept anything less than that criteria if we are to 'become an established Premier league club'.
 
bornablade said:
I seriously know jack shit about technology.

However I would request : - 'please put forward the best available, affordable players that can replicate the SUFC defensive 6 of 2018-2020'.

Not one of our existing defensive players would get in that side put together by Wilder in those seasons. We have to start from somewhere.

We should not accept anything less than that criteria if we are to 'become an established Premier league club'.
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Here you go:

 
Off topic I know, but check out 50 Gangsters brought back to life by AI on You Tube. Fascinating but chilling at the same time. How far we’ve come from Space Invaders in the Pub in 1981.
 
MayorOJC said:
Hi all, given the ongoing chat about AI's role in football recruitment, I thought I'd try an experiment with Gemini. I asked it to put together a transfer strategy for us for the Summer 2025 window, setting some pretty firm guidelines. A £35 million budget, 10 specific positions to reinforce with players under 28, and instruction to use only 2024/25 season data to address the weaknesses we saw this year. I asked it to assume that Hamer, Souza, Anel and Brewster were all leaving.

The AI didn't just list names, it actually built an interactive online dashboard.

The actual player suggestions it came up with were a mixed bag - some good ideas, others not so much (please no Michael Keane) and not all ideas are realistic. In once case, it seems to have invented a player (Ozcan at Arsenal)?. But overall, it gives an interesting peek into the kind of data-driven research that might be happening behind the scenes. McBurnie lovers will be delighted.

Take a look for yourselves:

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I’ll give you a like for creativity.

But Mcbambie? One, just no way and two it’s broken your criteria, lists him as 29
 
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This is very impressive, it would be interesting to see if we actually did look at any of these suggested players, or even signed them. It’s scary what can be done with AI. The fact it’s continually learning and improving is terrifying.
 
Blade56 said:
I’ll give you a like for creativity.

But Mcbambie? One, just no way and two it’s broken your criteria, lists him as 29
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Yeah I think the mistake I made is allowing it to just use the full internet, which makes it more likely to recommend players mentioned on forums and articles. Ideally I'd get a full player database and just feed it that data, but I'm all AI'd out for today
 

Does it tek into account players that can down pints int Banner and sup shots till they're sick and will "run through brick walls for the gaffer" and are "culture carriers"?
 
I'm not insinuating this is what you think, but I imagine whichever AI tools will be used will be a bit more outside the box than asking an AI agent what to do.

My initial thoughts on it all will essentially be an AI driven database that combines a lot of the stats from places such as OPTA, but with additional insights. The purpose will be to analyse the information that traditional scouts don't have the time for. It won't just be your typical x amounts of shots over the course of various games, but how many touches it took to get the shot off, was the player under pressure, was it leathered from 40 yards out as a daft punt etc. etc. If you feed all this information into a platform, or better yet, have an AI system that can actually review 90 minutes of a football match anywhere in the world and display all this info clearly, which is more than programmable with todays technology.

Apply this to all positions and scenarios in the game and it's a powerhouse of a tool to find players that are efficient, talented, fit, confident and effective.

To put it into an example scenario, let's say by Christmas we have a massive problem of defending corners in the latter stages of the games. You could use this tool to find a CB that has huge success defending specifically corners, specifically at 1-0 up and has huge success making aerial clearances and is able to do these things off the bench as the stats gathered have logged that most of these occur 80 mins+.

Any scenario, any position. I have high hopes for it and I'm really looking forward to some complete random names coming up from miles away.
 
MojoMuffin said:
I'm not insinuating this is what you think, but I imagine whichever AI tools will be used will be a bit more outside the box than asking an AI agent what to do.

My initial thoughts on it all will essentially be an AI driven database that combines a lot of the stats from places such as OPTA, but with additional insights. The purpose will be to analyse the information that traditional scouts don't have the time for. It won't just be your typical x amounts of shots over the course of various games, but how many touches it took to get the shot off, was the player under pressure, was it leathered from 40 yards out as a daft punt etc. etc. If you feed all this information into a platform, or better yet, have an AI system that can actually review 90 minutes of a football match anywhere in the world and display all this info clearly, which is more than programmable with todays technology.

Apply this to all positions and scenarios in the game and it's a powerhouse of a tool to find players that are efficient, talented, fit, confident and effective.

To put it into an example scenario, let's say by Christmas we have a massive problem of defending corners in the latter stages of the games. You could use this tool to find a CB that has huge success defending specifically corners, specifically at 1-0 up and has huge success making aerial clearances and is able to do these things off the bench as the stats gathered have logged that most of these occur 80 mins+.

Any scenario, any position. I have high hopes for it and I'm really looking forward to some complete random names coming up from miles away.
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Yep totally agree. Was saying to another poster earlier how the result would be much better if I plugged in the fbref player database. Might give it a go later.
 
North Riding Blade said:
ai - what a load of bollocks. Some of the people who, through their adoration of technology, swoon over this shit is amazing.
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That's like saying "the Internet is a load of bollocks".

Some of it, rightly so and as you say, is bollocks, such as recasting sky Sports pundits as babies. Some of it is down right dangerous such as fake news and stolen identity starting riots in various locations in the world.

AI as a whole, I don't believe is bollocks. As soon as next week I could get an early cancer diagnosis via AI software filtering through 100x as many MRI scans. I'll happily take that level of breakthrough technology even if it means I have to see daft AI videos on social media.

Whether you like it or not, it's not going away and it's going to dramatically change the way the world works just as much as the combustion engine and world wide Web.
 
I wish people would stop talking about the AI recruitment as if we're asking Alexa who to sign.

It's more like they're using AI to scan the likes of the Opta Index searching for specific requirements where they then sort through the list created by AI for potential targets. This would be quicker then scanning the data manually. Brentford and Forest using a data driven recruitment model and it's worked out nicely for them.
 

MojoMuffin said:
That's like saying "the Internet is a load of bollocks".

Some of it, rightly so and as you say, is bollocks, such as recasting sky Sports pundits as babies. Some of it is down right dangerous such as fake news and stolen identity starting riots in various locations in the world.

AI as a whole, I don't believe is bollocks. As soon as next week I could get an early cancer diagnosis via AI software filtering through 100x as many MRI scans. I'll happily take that level of breakthrough technology even if it means I have to see daft AI videos on social media.

Whether you like it or not, it's not going away and it's going to dramatically change the way the world works just as much as the combustion engine and world wide Web.
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And is not what the majority of you see or read on the internet bollocks? It's peoples inability to discern truth from fiction that fuels the internet. They see it and believe it, without thought or analysis. It's like reading the 'Rumours' thread on here and taking it as read that the posters know anything about football.
 
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