Wilder fighting with Plymouth players in tunnel

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I've waded through the whole thread and not one person has described what happened in the lead up to this incident. I was at the game and don't know what tv showed.
I didn't rush to leave the ground and watched United players and staff in a huddle whilst the Plymouth players went round applauding their fans. As the United huddle broke up there was some hand shaking between United and Plymouth players. Anel even had his arms round a Plymouth player and all seemed amicable. I then saw the Plymouth no15 shouting at ( I think Clark) and the No15 then approached Clark with Plymouth players trying to hold No15 back with United players doing likewise with Clark.
The ref had left the field by the time this was happening.
The players all were approaching the tunnel with No15 and Clark being held back. This is when CW became involved- the No15 was being restrained as CW turned and looked at them. The 2 Plymouth players had some verbal from CW and it appeared that the No15 was being held back by the other Plymouth player.
They then disappeared into the tunnel. I have no idea what happened then and I don't know whether tv showed anything.
CW shouldn't have got himself involved but this has been blown up out of all proportion- but no doubt there will be another fine on the way- and rightly so.
 
Bladepicker said:
He's the manager and leader of a top professional football club earning millions of pounds. He should be a leader, a role model and someone who sets examples.

He's behaving like one of the coked up fucking old boys who think they have to 'defend' the club by feyting and strutting their shoulders more than the same idiots from the opposition fans.

He's become an embarrassment and while I will always be grateful for what he's done for us previously, his recent record post COVID everywhere he has been, his god awful tactics (or seeming lack of them), his stubborness, his refusal to drop his favourites, his absolutely awful record of spending money in a VERY limited market and now his increasingly bizarre and unacceptable behaviour means he should not be the manager of the football club I love.

Thank you Chris but it's over. And if by some miracle we turn this round or we win the play offs (which could happen against the other shite in them) I won't change my mind. He's a busted flush as a manager at this level. People will say "well he has us in third place and we could still go up" but I'd counter that by saying I think every other manager in this league would have us in at least a similar position with our team and budget, if not higher. And they would almost certainly be more forward thinking and less of a fucking embarrassment.
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A very succinct reply and in IMO absolutely correct..you are obviously a pig as I'm regardless of going to matches for nigh on sixty years.
 
Bladepicker said:
He's the manager and leader of a top professional football club earning millions of pounds. He should be a leader, a role model and someone who sets examples.

He's behaving like one of the coked up fucking old boys who think they have to 'defend' the club by feyting and strutting their shoulders more than the same idiots from the opposition fans.

He's become an embarrassment and while I will always be grateful for what he's done for us previously, his recent record post COVID everywhere he has been, his god awful tactics (or seeming lack of them), his stubborness, his refusal to drop his favourites, his absolutely awful record of spending money in a VERY limited market and now his increasingly bizarre and unacceptable behaviour means he should not be the manager of the football club I love.

Thank you Chris but it's over. And if by some miracle we turn this round or we win the play offs (which could happen against the other shite in them) I won't change my mind. He's a busted flush as a manager at this level. People will say "well he has us in third place and we could still go up" but I'd counter that by saying I think every other manager in this league would have us in at least a similar position with our team and budget, if not higher. And they would almost certainly be more forward thinking and less of a fucking embarrassment.
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You are correct, I don't think all managers would have got us automatically, but almost every manager would have got us top 6 with a wage budget as big as ours.

At the end of the day finishing 3rd or 6th doesnt really matter as still have to play best team in playoffs to go up.
 
Like I said on a thread before losing to fucking Plymouth. Wilder was on course to defeat the odds again and bring the whole club together. Well he’s made a bit of a pigs ear of it all.
 
utd4ever said:
Look Chris. Just admit you messed up. Sore loser. Your own doing.
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At least improve your abject home form before you come on here calling me Danny. I hope you enjoyed getting doubled. Mind the gap.

"Sausage, sausage Rohl"....
 
PrestwichBlade said:
Regardless, it's a shit look. Shows rest of division that any composure we had is long gone, not just the players but the management and coaching staff too. Imagine going into a play off scenario with that mindset around.
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Playoff teams will now know to wind us up is dead easy and we just lose it.
Thanks for that Chrissy.

I feel sorry for the pressure you're under but FFS get retired , your own health must be suffering
 

Eza Blade said:
Goooo on Chris, might as well get annoyed and upset just like the rest of us. It’s either that or finding scapegoats on social media. Fucking love it, I don’t want plastic, I don’t want mechanical I want emotion and buy in. Yer he’s fucked the last week up, so he should just wilt into a tunnel and come out and give lip service to the press. Nar get involved, show a bit of emotion
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Err , I think you'll find football has moved on a bit since what Wilder & Robbo did was in any way acceptable

I feckin hate antiseptic modern football but we have to move with the times or stick out like a sore thumb for being sore losers
 
In absolute terms, it's not even handbags. My initial reaction yesterday was definitely an overreaction. But managers acting like that, as well as publically flogging players after a poor performance, never ends well. It's shit leadership in any workplace. We need siege mentality, not toxicity or belittlement. He's made his own job a lot fcking harder this week.
 
Silky Sabella said:
Ancient,
The most perfect reply on here by a country mile. My numerous previous posts on here were to a tee of yours. Wilder singing songs with a degree of offence to another professional manager who he was praising prior to the game, is nothing short of vulgar and obscene. He acts like a common street man doing things like this. What does his wife say about his antics like this, because I'm sure that the majority of you on here, me included, would be torn to shreds !
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Yeah and the common street thug behaviour is 100% not how he was raised. His mum believe me would tear him to shreds for it.
 
Eza Blade said:
Goooo on Chris, might as well get annoyed and upset just like the rest of us. It’s either that or finding scapegoats on social media. Fucking love it, I don’t want plastic, I don’t want mechanical I want emotion and buy in. Yer he’s fucked the last week up, so he should just wilt into a tunnel and come out and give lip service to the press. Nar get involved, show a bit of emotion
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His 'emotional buy in' response is reducing our chances of turning this around. Think of the effects on the squad. Might give a few old boys a hard on, but it's not the leadership the team needs.
 
Sheff de party said:
It’s a football match. They had to win and did.

When did people get so touchy about the theatre and heroes/pantomime villains in football.

If you lose, just go and get on the coach.
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What gets me is why do we even have to have this (almost) end of season lap of honour / lap of embarrassment after ever game.

Just walk off the pitch and get politely applauded / booed as appropriate like they used to.

Save the lap of honour / lap of gloom until the end of the season.
 
JJBlade said:
And if you saw a group of Plymouth fans outside the stadium singing would you have steamed into them ?
Or would you have had more common sense
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Players and staff don't fight. They push, shove and shout. Nobody is getting arrested for having an argument on the pitch or tunnel.
 
Across several threads, pretty much all that's to be said has been said.

All I'll say that I've not really seen, is that amongst the "He's a disgrace/lost the dressing room" and "Good for him, good lad" without too much in-between, I'd say all those standing up for him yesterday really have, is "He's one of us".

Is he though? Because I wouldn't get rid of him personally, but imagine he manages one of our rivals rather than us- imagine he manages Leeds. We'd go mad wouldn't we, we'd think he carries on like a proper dick. It's all a bit Warnock, a bit Stan Ternant, a bit Mike Bassett.

And if the argument is "Aye, but he's our dickhead" he isn't really one of us is he? He gives it the big'un all the time, and rate him or not, he growingly makes it all about him. He believes his own hype and it doesn't really seem like a coincidence we have our performance of the season, go top, then lose 3 straight. Believe your own bullshit and it soon bites you on the arse.

Maybe over the years he could've done with good mates around him just to bring him back down to earth a bit, rather than some he does hang around with.
 
Russ said:
What gets me is why do we even have to have this (almost) end of season lap of honour / lap of embarrassment after ever game.

Just walk off the pitch and get politely applauded / booed as appropriate like they used to.

Save the lap of honour / lap of gloom until the end of the season.
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I’m inclined to agree. A bit different if we’re bottom of the Prem and we’ve just won at Anfield, but a 1-0 theft at Luton got the same parade.
 
metalblade said:
To be fair to Wilder it looked like it was Robinson who started the fracas in the tunnel but then again why did Wilder feel the need to get involved with Plymouth players on the pitch?
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Someone clearly said something to him. He hardly reacted in a way that isn't right he just spoke to him.

Dumb Robinson made it a thing. Just as stupid off the pitch as he is on it.
 

3Cheers4Ramirez said:
If I'm a Blades fan, and I'm a player or manager, I'd have reacted in the same way. It's understandable - if indeed they were trying to provoke our fans as it appeared they were

It's basically ended our season. Any cunts trying to rub it in like that can get fucked
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Our season is far from over.
 
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