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mancunianblade said:
I like the 3pm blackout, I just can’t see how much longer it will be able to hold out however..
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I think one of the biggest things stopping the likes of Sky getting more subscribers.

People don’t have full access to football in the uk because of it and people overseas have full access. I don’t think it impacts attendances like perhaps in the 90’s

The other issue is that the wisdom of breaking up the monopoly of one big provider in the uk having all premier league football. Designed to protect the consumer.

But it would cost hundreds per month for a consumer to have sky, TNT, Amazon prime and any others to watch all games broadcast. It would certainly be cheaper if there were just one provider
 

SwissBlade said:
The other issue is that the wisdom of breaking up the monopoly of one big provider in the uk having all premier league football. Designed to protect the consumer.

But it would cost hundreds per month for a consumer to have sky, TNT, Amazon prime and any others to watch all games broadcast. It would certainly be cheaper if there were just one provider
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This - the issue here is that the regulators saw the "product" as PL football - which effectively means that Palace v Bournemouth has the same value as Liverpool v Arsenal.

Now to Palace and Bournemouth fans it probably does. But if all you can afford is BT Sport, and Liverpool vs Arsenal is on Sky then it isn`t.

The "product" is being able to watch all the games you want to.

Unfortunately the cat is now out of the bag - the PL probably thought having a single provider brought the most value - but in fact they get more by increasing overall competition for each package. They won`t ever (unless forced) go back to having a single provider.

And they certainly won`t do what would actually be beneficial to the consumer and allow any broadcaster to transmit every game for a flat fee and have competition for subscriptions on that basis.
 
Selly said:
This - the issue here is that the regulators saw the "product" as PL football - which effectively means that Palace v Bournemouth has the same value as Liverpool v Arsenal.

Now to Palace and Bournemouth fans it probably does. But if all you can afford is BT Sport, and Liverpool vs Arsenal is on Sky then it isn`t.

The "product" is being able to watch all the games you want to.

Unfortunately the cat is now out of the bag - the PL probably thought having a single provider brought the most value - but in fact they get more by increasing overall competition for each package. They won`t ever (unless forced) go back to having a single provider.

And they certainly won`t do what would actually be beneficial to the consumer and allow any broadcaster to transmit every game for a flat fee and have competition for subscriptions on that basis.
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I think, and it was a long while ago, but wasn’t it the government or the monopoly and mergers commission which forced the tv deal into packages
 
Linz said:
They got too greedy with their paying customers and pushed them into being not-paying customers.

It's like streaming piracy. If you make it easier to subscribe to a service and the cost/benefit relationship works out, you're more likely to subscribe to the legal service. Netflix, for instance. It was reasonably cheap, the platform was good and people subscribed. It had a huge market share.

As soon as you start increasing the costs, or enshittifying it in some other way (ads), you push people back towards being bothered to pirate. Instead of being happy with what profits you are getting from an individual customer, you start getting none.
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They also seem determined to turn their customer base into bankrupt gambling addicts. As far as business plans go, it’s a bold one.
 
SwissBlade said:
I think, and it was a long while ago, but wasn’t it the government or the monopoly and mergers commission which forced the tv deal into packages
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It was a regulator of some sort - whether that was the M&M or the EU.

Yet again, the consumer gets screwed by the very people who are supposed to be protecting them - of course some might say that's the system working exactly as it is intended.
 
i was working it out & looking at fixture lists & comparing ourselves to ipswich. excluding the final day
  • 8 of ipswich final 14 home games have been on Saturday
  • contrasted that to 4 of sheff utd final 16 home games have been on Saturday.
it shows what absoulte 💩 show the EFL deal has been for fans. that its now premier league is better for clubs like us. because ipswich have had 57% of home games on a saturday compared to just 25% for us
 
DifferentClass said:
Can't wait for the first cock flash in the dressing room.
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One way of making them not put cameras in and I mean surely its an invasion of privacy, I'm surprised PFA hasn't stepped in regards this.

Also regards to half time interviews again ridiculous, as players you need to get in to recover and take in any tactics been discussed not be dragged out for an interview.

Should refuse to interview or make a no comment (or as little as possible).

I dont agree with it and I dont see what value it adds to the spectator or the game, they are trying to Americanise it.
 
MojoMuffin said:
Yet another fad that's designed to bring us closer to the game yet it's never been further away from it.

All this means is we have to listen to another 15 instances per game of "Once again, apologies for any industrial language you might have heard. Tensions are high."
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Oh, what a load of Bessemer converters!

Sorry for the industrial language.
 

The only positive I see in this is if managers are genuine with what they say and it gives insight into "what we need to do differently in the second half". It has to be better than the pundits' analysis at HT?
 
We ought to have had the interviewing of players who had been subbed off about 4 or 5 seasons back, been interesting to get Mousett's thoughts after sixty minutes every game

Interviewer. “So Lys what’s your thoughts on being brought off after an hour?”

Mousett. “. Dominooooo ! “
 
Wank rules that can’t be enforced just say no comment walk off and fuck em
 
Wouldn't it have to have been passed by the PL and the clubs agreeing to it, you bet Harry Enfield Sky, turned up and said "loadsa money", and they took it.
 
Harry's Game said:
We ought to have had the interviewing of players who had been subbed off about 4 or 5 seasons back, been interesting to get Mousett's thoughts after sixty minutes every game

Interviewer. “So Lys what’s your thoughts on being brought off after an hour?”

Mousett. “. Dominooooo ! “
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Cappy said:
The only positive I see in this is if managers are genuine with what they say and it gives insight into "what we need to do differently in the second half". It has to be better than the pundits' analysis at HT?
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But then surely someone just tells the oppo manager what he said so they can be prepared for it.

It's a load of nonsense
 
Harry's Game said:
We ought to have had the interviewing of players who had been subbed off about 4 or 5 seasons back, been interesting to get Mousett's thoughts after sixty minutes every game

Interviewer. “So Lys what’s your thoughts on being brought off after an hour?”

Mousett. "Sorry mate, can't hang about. I'm absolutely bursting for a shit after that kebab last night"
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Fixed ;)
 
mattbianco1 said:
But then surely someone just tells the oppo manager what he said so they can be prepared for it.

It's a load of nonsense
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Yeah, but then it does work in AFL and NFL as far as I can tell. The manager know the oppo knows where they're dominating and knows they'll be trying to change it. But for the public it's better hearing it from a manager than [insert your favourite cundit]
 
For me this is the final nail in the coffin of football being a sport. It is now entirely devised as an entertainment for the armchair fan. Aaaaaah, jumpers for goalposts…………………………………
 

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