Wilder

[Bladezz]

My only critic of Wilder right now is his use of Moore this season. Not sure one against 3 center backs worked. Moore looked lost to be fair. He set up the penalty when he came from the left and also his great chance in the 2nd half. Against 2 CB's it is hard enough but 3, really Chris. I think against Hull and Derby we'll see a different Moore, more effective. Poor pre match planning by Chris and the team. We got away with it thanks to a great team effort. Maybe, Brewster to start alongside him and drop O'Hare next time we play against a big back 3. But what do I know!!

This is absolute nonsense by the way.

 

[Bladezz]

Wilders critics before he got here was he only plays 1 way and a certain style. Which we now know is total nonsense. New formation and we look like we want to control the game which is so much better to watch.

We set up tactically very well and the new system is a joy to watch. We all know he would give us back the pashun and that we wouldn’t be able to shirk any challenges.

The transfer window has been good, lowered the age of the squad, brought in quality mainly on perm deal.

Now it is down to the owners (whoever that is) to give him more manoeuvrability and bring in better players throughout the side. That’s now how we get better and improve as a side.

 

[CPB]

It's all about realistic expectations and perspective. I think mid table is realistic with this squad. For me to be unhappy we'd have to fall below that. Seeing Anel at left centre back and Hamer on the wing again really brought that home yesterday. That was our starting eleven Brooks excepted. If we can stay in play off contention until January and bring 3-5 in to push us on that'd be an example of an amazing job by the coaching team. With our lack of transfers during the last few days going out of the league cup is probably a blessing in disguise.

It's the depth that's the issue of course.
In certain areas.

However I suppose that all said above. And that as wilder keeps saying this is basically a brand new squad with a new formation and way of playing.

But still from an ownership point of view and perhaps a fan point of view we have some pretty good quality all over the pitch in our first 11.

Anel, Souttar, Hamer, Souza, Arblaster, Brooks, O'Hare and maybe Rak Sakyi probably get in most sides in the league. Some absolutely would no question ( Hamer, Blaster etc. )

We have a lack of depth in the squad in some areas though. RB being one although Seriki looked decent Vs Wrexham. And sachdev didn't look too bad Vs Barnsley.
And after that strikers depth is really quite low.

Moore, Brewster and then it's One and Marsh. I'm a bit puzzled we couldn't even find a loan till Jan to help boost that if nothing else.
Any free transfers around might even help here. Because sometimes even just having someone who can help for 20mins to start with works.

 

[BrisBlade]

It's all about realistic expectations and perspective. I think mid table is realistic with this squad. For me to be unhappy we'd have to fall below that. Seeing Anel at left centre back and Hamer on the wing again really brought that home yesterday. That was our starting eleven Brooks excepted. If we can stay in play off contention until January and bring 3-5 in to push us on that'd be an example of an amazing job by the coaching team. With our lack of transfers during the last few days going out of the league cup is probably a blessing in disguise.

I don't see any issue with Anel playing left centre back in a four and very happy with the line up in general. I reckon Gilchrist, Souttar, Anel, Burrows is the best defensive line we've had since the glory days of Baldock, Basham, Egan, JOC, and Enda.

I would tweak the approach slightly to encourage Burrows to hug the touchline when we are attacking so Hamer can drift inside, but that's about it.

 

[Jan Age]

Mid table but as I said to my lad yesterday it’s nice to see us actually be competitive and have some possession after a torid time in the PL where the footy was just not enjoyable…

We look good in possession but possibly give it away too cheaply and overplay at times.

Toothless up front which will be the major downfall

Surprisingly we looked good out of possession after the first 30 minutes yesterday - we’ve been terrible so far but I actually enjoyed the defending yesterday we guarded our area supremely well for 60 minutes

 

[ATL Recs]

Mid table but as I said to my lad yesterday it’s nice to see us actually be competitive and have some possession after a torid time in the PL where the footy was just not enjoyable…

We look good in possession but possibly give it away too cheaply and overplay at times.

Toothless up front which will be the major downfall

Surprisingly we looked good out of possession after the first 30 minutes yesterday - we’ve been terrible so far but I actually enjoyed the defending yesterday we guarded our area supremely well for 60 minutes

Agree 100% said the same on FB ( and got some pelters for it) but would be nice to be wrong - 7-10th I feel

 

[Sean Thornton]

I’ve realised long time ago. You and Crazyblade only come on when we lose. It’s pointless conversing with you on actual points of discussion. Easier to just be polite and ignore you. Which is why I wish you a pleasant day.

Still crying and looking for help in Shoutbox l see Emptybrain?

Tragic waiting a couple of days to see if l respond immediately after a match so you can hang on tenterhooks desperate to post more lies. Get out more.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Mid table but as I said to my lad yesterday it’s nice to see us actually be competitive and have some possession after a torid time in the PL where the footy was just not enjoyable…

We look good in possession but possibly give it away too cheaply and overplay at times.

Toothless up front which will be the major downfall

Surprisingly we looked good out of possession after the first 30 minutes yesterday - we’ve been terrible so far but I actually enjoyed the defending yesterday we guarded our area supremely well for 60 minutes

You say mid table but other than Burnley/ Leeds & Sunderland (who are debatable for me) there’s pretty much nothing to split the rest of the pack.

If we had a stronger squad you’d definitely have us in the top 6 because we have players who can win games out of nothing like Rak-Sakyi, Hamer, Ohare, Blaster. That’s something most championship teams don’t have because it costs too much money.

 

[Dkc]

You say mid table but other than Burnley/ Leeds & Sunderland (who are debatable for me) there’s pretty much nothing to split the rest of the pack.

If we had a stronger squad you’d definitely have us in the top 6 because we have players who can win games out of nothing like Rak-Sakyi, Hamer, Ohare, Blaster. That’s something most championship teams don’t have because it costs too much money.

Sunderland won't be challenging for autos

 

[Boxer Blade]

I'm still not sure about Gilchrist at right back, in the first half their wide left player just hugged the line waiting for the ball, Gilchrist a lot of the time was nowhere near him and at times he seemed to naturally move towards the centre when they were attacking from the right or centrally and left him in oceans of space, is his support when he was one on one he played the winger very well, not having a go at him but it really didn't look like his natural position, funny he brought Shackleton on, maybe to give him some game time, but will he start in the next couple of games?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm still not sure about Gilchrist at right back, in the first half their wide left player just hugged the line waiting for the ball, Gilchrist a lot of the time was nowhere near him and at times he seemed to naturally move towards the centre when they were attacking from the right or centrally and left him in oceans of space, is his support when he was one on one he played the winger very well, not having a go at him but it really didn't look like his natural position, funny he brought Shackleton on, maybe to give him some game time, but will he start in the next couple of games?

Our centre backs yesterday are likely to get suspensions so presumably he’ll fit in there when the time comes. Thought he had a good game but seemed hesitant now and then.

Shackleton looked decent.

Excellent performance and kept it up for the full ninety minutes. Wilder certainly more enthused on the line. Good to see and reminiscent of the good years.

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

This is absolute nonsense by the way.

No not really

 

[Frank the tank]

I'm still not sure about Gilchrist at right back, in the first half their wide left player just hugged the line waiting for the ball, Gilchrist a lot of the time was nowhere near him and at times he seemed to naturally move towards the centre when they were attacking from the right or centrally and left him in oceans of space, is his support when he was one on one he played the winger very well, not having a go at him but it really didn't look like his natural position, funny he brought Shackleton on, maybe to give him some game time, but will he start in the next couple of games?

Wilder's full backs / wing backs have always tucked in to help the central defenders and then had to close down the space out wide when that player is in possession

Baldock was brilliant at it max Lowe and bogle along with pretty much every one last season never got to grips with it

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Sunderland won't be challenging for autos

I said debatable, the thing with the championship is if you start well over the first 10-15 games you tend to stay up there for the duration

 

[sufcben]

As much as he may get criticized, he does love our club. Right man for the job.

Although not nearly at the same level as ‘16-‘19, we are playing some good football. I loved seeing our midfielders feed Rak Sakyi with passes during build up play, it adds a new edge to our attack.

The twinkle in his eye is back, and I’m backing him. For now, at least.

I think he should make Blaster permanently captain, and either drop Moore or find a way to better utilize him. What way that may be, I don’t know.

Nice seeing the twinkle back in his eye though, looks like he’s up for it. UTB

One statement in this is exactly what I am talking about “I will back him for now at least”. So basically you will back him when we win but lose a couple and I’m back to wanting him out.

Seriously why do people think like this? We have virtually a brand new team and way of playing, the squad isn’t a big one for me he’s working wonders already. We need to stay in and around the top 6 then strengthen in January. But if we aren’t wining every game we know there will be people on here shouting for his head it’s pathetic.

 

[CrookesBlade]

I'm still not sure about Gilchrist at right back, in the first half their wide left player just hugged the line waiting for the ball, Gilchrist a lot of the time was nowhere near him and at times he seemed to naturally move towards the centre when they were attacking from the right or centrally and left him in oceans of space, is his support when he was one on one he played the winger very well, not having a go at him but it really didn't look like his natural position, funny he brought Shackleton on, maybe to give him some game time, but will he start in the next couple of games?

In fairness to him he was getting overrun down that side as JRS wasn’t tracking his man for large periods of the first half.

 

[Dkc]

One statement in this is exactly what I am talking about “I will back him for now at least”. So basically you will back him when we win but lose a couple and I’m back to wanting him out.

Seriously why do people think like this? We have virtually a brand new team and way of playing, the squad isn’t a big one for me he’s working wonders already. We need to stay in and around the top 6 then strengthen in January. But if we aren’t wining every game we know there will be people on here shouting for his head it’s pathetic.

Yes, fans these days lack patience. It takes time to assemble and train a new squad to get in a position to challenge. If we finish 10th this season (like in 2017/18, the season before Wilder's promotion to the PL) it will be seen by many as a failure - when in fact we'll have moved forward a long way in terms of squad bonding, understand our strengths, knowing players' best positions, tactics etc.

I've said it before but we need to stick with Wilder this season wherever we finish (barring bottom three).

 

[Blade45]

One statement in this is exactly what I am talking about “I will back him for now at least”. So basically you will back him when we win but lose a couple and I’m back to wanting him out.

Seriously why do people think like this? We have virtually a brand new team and way of playing, the squad isn’t a big one for me he’s working wonders already. We need to stay in and around the top 6 then strengthen in January. But if we aren’t wining every game we know there will be people on here shouting for his head it’s pathetic.

What I meant by that is I’ll support him because we’re playing well, but my support isn’t necessarily guaranteed. If in February, we’re 17th, having been on a bad run of form for months, my support isn’t guaranteed.

And that’s different than a typical bad run of form that every team has. By saying ‘for now’, I wanted to say that he doesn’t have my support guaranteed, and yes, results will need to keep on coming.

Not that my support matters, of course. He has my complete backing right now and it will stay that way until I’m reasonably concerned about our results.

 

[LBA_Blade]

My only critic of Wilder right now is his use of Moore this season. Not sure one against 3 center backs worked. Moore looked lost to be fair. He set up the penalty when he came from the left and also his great chance in the 2nd half. Against 2 CB's it is hard enough but 3, really Chris. I think against Hull and Derby we'll see a different Moore, more effective. Poor pre match planning by Chris and the team. We got away with it thanks to a great team effort. Maybe, Brewster to start alongside him and drop O'Hare next time we play against a big back 3. But what do I know!!

Although not disagreeing as think you definitely have a valid point, I think with the quick attacking options out wide definitely helps. Moore is almost a "decoy striker" being 6'5 he is going to attract attention from the opposition and although he won't get the goal ratio we might expect, he creates space and pulls defenders out of position. He was unlucky with his chance in the second half, he had too much time to think about it and should have done better with the penalty and there was a 100% stonewall penalty not given just before half-time, on a different day he could have been going home with the match ball. If he can keep playing like he has creating that link between defence and midfield with his hold up play there are plenty of players running on that have shown they are capable, Arblaster probably would have scored if he wasn't hacked down for what turned out to be the saved penalty and that opportunity was set-up my some lovely work by Moore on the left.

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

Although not disagreeing as think you definitely have a valid point, I think with the quick attacking options out wide definitely helps. Moore is almost a "decoy striker" being 6'5 he is going to attract attention from the opposition and although he won't get the goal ratio we might expect, he creates space and pulls defenders out of position. He was unlucky with his chance in the second half, he had too much time to think about it and should have done better with the penalty and there was a 100% stonewall penalty not given just before half-time, on a different day he could have been going home with the match ball. If he can keep playing like he has creating that link between defence and midfield with his hold up play there are plenty of players running on that have shown they are capable, Arblaster probably would have scored if he wasn't hacked down for what turned out to be the saved penalty and that opportunity was set-up my some lovely work by Moore on the left.

Thank you. Burrows whipped in 2 crosses in the first half that had tap in written all over them. Moore was on the 18 yard box each time. A Brewster or Campbell alongside him would have made that run into the box and got on the end of those crosses. Moore is only one man and can not be everywhere at once. I'm not knocking Moore for his play, other than that 2nd half chance should have done better, but I don't think we are playing to his strengths. He's doing his best for the almost thankless job he has been given. And lone striker can be thankless. But I guess this formation has stopped us from being overrun in midfield for long periods of time, QPR 2nd half the only time this season. Just like to figure out a way to get Moore into goalscorer positions in front of goal where one touch, shoot, goal happens too often. Has to be something they will work on before the Dull City game.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[ThatJa]

Quite right too.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Makes sense, it’s debatable whether he deserves it based on performances. But he’s handled the summer fiasco well & built a decent squad with the hand he’s been dealt

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Does this mean the new owners are in place as we can get in trouble for discussion of new owners if still with EFL.