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I don't think we're that bad.


We lost two first half goals which were both very well taken. The first goal came from a deflected cross. The second goal was a cracker, which came following a stumble from one of our lads in the build up on the very wet ground in that corner of the pitch. I doubt if they had those chances again they would hit the target more than three times in ten.


The third goal was poor and this is where I would single out Westlake as a weak link. He just doesn't seem good enough and has had enough chances. I have also decided that Flynn is not really good enough, he is too small and lacks conviction and composure, particularly when he had that good chance to score when through on goal and just blasted the ball straight at the goalkeeper.


I thought McGinn was excellent when he came on, some terrific corners and overall industry. His introduction change the game. Taylor looked hungry and keen to do well. He was lucky with the first goal through the wall, but his header was well placed from a good cross.


Hall is better than Flynn and we should try and extend his loan.


I thought Coady was quite good he certainly tried his best and should have scored at least one goal with a diving header. He came into the game more when McGinn arrived and I am sure this was as a result of a change in system/tactics.


Collins and Maguire were up against two in form strikers, arguably the best forward line in the league on a wet slippery pitch trying to make up for a weak right back and a midfield over run in the first half. It was never going to be easy.


We could have won that match and the fight back was excellent, some real spirit. Brandy deserves a mention. I like him, quite tenacious and tricky he is a good player at this level.


I am not sure about Doyle. I somehow think he does the things we don't see, and if he wasn't there it could be worse? (Can it get worse?) I would like to see a set-up without him but don't know who in our squad could cover his position or whether a midfield of


Hall McGinn Coady Brandy would work?


Overall some positives to come from the second half performance. I am still mulling over whether I would like Morgan to take the managers job for this year.


Glad I went to the game. Enjoyed a quick pint in the Malt Shovel before the match, very nice indeed.

HH
 

I agree with most of that, apart from giving Morgan the job for a while. I had a sneaky suspicion he was too close the the old guard. Bringing back Flynn (he must know how shite he is) makes me more suspicious. And as a motivator, we didn't seem to get any new manager bounce. We can do better.

UTB
 
I agree with most of that, apart from giving Morgan the job for a while. I had a sneaky suspicion he was too close the the old guard. Bringing back Flynn (he must know how shite he is) makes me more suspicious. And as a motivator, we didn't seem to get any new manager bounce. We can do better.

UTB

On the other hand, perhaps he knew it was only for 1 game and therefore simply couldn't be bothered? He certainly didn't look like himself in the first half and maybe this wore off on the players.

Morgan could work but he would perhaps need someone like Warnock upstairs to help him out. I wouldn't be opposed to it but think we could perhaps look longer term.
 
I agree with most of that, apart from giving Morgan the job for a while. I had a sneaky suspicion he was too close the the old guard. Bringing back Flynn (he must know how shite he is) makes me more suspicious. And as a motivator, we didn't seem to get any new manager bounce. We can do better.

UTB

Well I didn't think Flynn was all that bad.

Ok he took the wrong option in that first half attack when he might have dragged it back for King, but he was unlucky with the shot.

Each time I've seen him he certainly has not been the worse player on the pitch, though the substitution was merited.

On Sunday's performance the player I am most disapointed with is Maguire. He needs to be told we're playing football here and not American football either or Rugby. When will he stop trying to foul everybody all the time in such a blatant and stupid fashion? I think he would benefit from individual coaching, losing a bit of weight and a more rsponsible attitude. His ability to get up and down the pitch marks him out as a potential captain in the future but at the moment I think his career is in danger of being derailed big time.
 
On Sunday's performance the player I am most disapointed with is Maguire. He needs to be told we're playing football here and not American football either or Rugby. When will he stop trying to foul everybody all the time in such a blatant and stupid fashion? I think he would benefit from individual coaching, losing a bit of weight and a more rsponsible attitude. His ability to get up and down the pitch marks him out as a potential captain in the future but at the moment I think his career is in danger of being derailed big time.

His fouls seem mostly to be committed by holding people back - due to him being ponderously slow - IMHO
 
Geez, you could work for the club with a view like that HH. In fact, you could get a job in no 10 as a spin doctor. Tek thi red n white specs off owd cocker.

I agree with you on a couple of things. McGinn's introduction changed things, but you have to remember the game was buried by then. Coventry had completely taken their foot off the gas and that is the only reason we got back in the game. Coady played very well 2nd half and put a real shift him. Only him, McGinn, Taylor and Brandy were worthy of the shirt. Coventry were completely dominant and only their complacency meant we got back into the game. Even when the Blades were pushing for an equaliser, Coventry could easily have finished the game. Piggy Clarke could and should have had 5 goals. Had it not been for excellent keeping and wasteful finishing, then Coventry would have killed off our lacklustre fightback.

Making excuses for our pathetic defence is typical of 'it'll be reit', mediocrity loving Blades fans. Collins and Maguire will look at place in division 4 next season and they are definately helping us get there. The first goal was garbage. Collins made it so easy for chubby Clarke. The first thing you learn as a defender is to get goalside of your man. You attack the ball. Collins let Clarke get in front of him and though it was a good finish, it was soft. When you are down at the bottom and playing an in form team, then you cannot gift them goals like that. Doyle's slip for their 2nd was criminal and the 3rd was gash defending. Their strikers, and particular the fat porcine one, gave us the run around. We are lucky that Clarke is just an average League One striker, as he should have scored 5 goals.

It was nice to see a bit of spirit, but we should not get carried away. Play like we did in the 2nd half for 90 minutes (not just after we've already lost the game) and we might do oreit. The defence needs sorting mind, cos even if Taylor, Coady, Brandy and McGinn offer sumert going forward, we'll ship goals playing like that. I was actually impressed by Taylor, who got stuck in and looked dangerous. Brandy is dangerous, but he missed a sitter. It was nice to see some commitment from Coady. He worked hard and clearly gave a fuck. It was funny to see him doing a ball boy impression and fetching the ball when Coventry had goal kicks. He ran his bollocks off though and he has some footballing skills too.

It was a strange old match. I felt dead weird after. I was expecting us to lose and therefore was prepared for disappointment. But the way the match panned out, I did not know how to feel after. I was pretty distraught at half time, but then wasn't sure how I felt after the 2nd half.
 
I agree with most of that, apart from giving Morgan the job for a while. I had a sneaky suspicion he was too close the the old guard. Bringing back Flynn (he must know how shite he is) makes me more suspicious. And as a motivator, we didn't seem to get any new manager bounce. We can do better.

UTB
On the other hand, perhaps he knew it was only for 1 game and therefore simply couldn't be bothered? He certainly didn't look like himself in the first half and maybe this wore off on the players.

Morgan could work but he would perhaps need someone like Warnock upstairs to help him out. I wouldn't be opposed to it but think we could perhaps look longer term.

I think he just doidn't have long enough to prepare or change any style etc. If he had a weeks prep i think we would've seen a bigger change. Maybe 4-4-2 from the start or an overhaul on selection.

They'd been working together using the same formation all season and having 2 days to prepare, i think he had to leave it. He basically made a couple of changes to personnel. That's all he could really.

I did like Mcginn when he came on. Thought he was great against Notts C too.
 
Making excuses for our pathetic defence is typical of 'it'll be reit', mediocrity loving Blades fans.

I'm not sure that stands scrutiny. There's a growing belief (I don't subscribe) that we've worked our way through 9 managers in the last few years because our fans are too impatient. We then surely can't love mediocroity too?

Basically, our fans are like all others. We put up with lots of shit for the love of their club, when it would be far easier and make more objective sense to support ManUre. For that, you have to accept that passion often clouds judgement - but it's one of the only thing that gets us through supporting such crap.

UTB
 
I'm not sure that stands scrutiny. There's a growing belief (I dontl subscribe) that we've worked our way though 9 managers in the last few years because our fans are too impatient.


UTB

Indeed. The top end of United's expectations is to be going for promotion in the 2nd tier or struggling in the top tier. Managers who acheive that (Bassett, Warnock) stay for ages if they like. Managers who had short spells but were achieving that all left volumtarily (Kendall, Spackman, Bruce)* Managers who get sacked after shortish spells (Robson, Adams, Wilson, Weir) are those who fail to achieve at that level (or in the case of Wilson and Weir who started in the 3rd tier don't look to be making steady progress towards getting back to that level).

I think expecting to be challenging for promotion in the 2nd tier is an entirely reasonable expectation for a club of United's size and resources and it's therefore entirely reasonable to expect a manager to be performing at that level or making progress towards that level.

* The only exception to this is Blackwell.
 
I think he just doidn't have long enough to prepare or change any style etc. If he had a weeks prep i think we would've seen a bigger change. Maybe 4-4-2 from the start or an overhaul on selection.

They'd been working together using the same formation all season and having 2 days to prepare, i think he had to leave it. He basically made a couple of changes to personnel. That's all he could really.

I did like Mcginn when he came on. Thought he was great against Notts C too.



When interviewed just before the game by Radio Sheffield Morgan said that all the Prep had been done before Weir left, so he'd had virtually no input on the team selection or tactics. That clearly changed in the second half.
 

Ah, the Bladey, Bladey 'Give "Morgs" the job' bandwagon begins to roll, despite his complete lack of ability, amply evidenced by his non-performance both as caretaker and as boss of the development squad. Are you just desperate for a hoofer?

He was only given a coaching role to cut costs. There are no signs at all that he has any aptitude for the job at all. Quite the contrary.

Have you forgotten already his 'out of my depth' spell last year, culminating in a no-show at Yeovil followed by embarrassing statements to the media?

He hasn't a clue. I hope the next manager moves him out. He'll never make a manager. Maybe he can replace fellow Bladey non-achiever Wilder at Oxford when the latter takes over, by popular Bladey demand, at Jurassic Lane?

Upanatem!
 
Ah, the Bladey, Bladey 'Give "Morgs" the job' bandwagon begins to roll, despite his complete lack of ability, amply evidenced by his non-performance both as caretaker and as boss of the development squad. Are you just desperate for a hoofer?

He was only given a coaching role to cut costs. There are no signs at all that he has any aptitude for the job at all. Quite the contrary.

Have you forgotten already his 'out of my depth' spell last year, culminating in a no-show at Yeovil followed by embarrassing statements to the media?

He hasn't a clue. I hope the next manager moves him out. He'll never make a manager. Maybe he can replace fellow Bladey non-achiever Wilder at Oxford when the latter takes over, by popular Bladey demand, at Jurassic Lane?

Upanatem!

Not that I would touch Morgan with a barge pole as a permanent manager, but wouldn't you agree he is a better manager than Weir? Morgan after all has managed 2 wins in his 8 game managerial career and both those wins were against 11 men. Weir, on the other hand, managed 1 win in 13 and that was against 10 men....
 
I don't think we're that bad.


We lost two first half goals which were both very well taken. The first goal came from a deflected cross. The second goal was a cracker, which came following a stumble from one of our lads in the build up on the very wet ground in that corner of the pitch. I doubt if they had those chances again they would hit the target more than three times in ten.


The third goal was poor and this is where I would single out Westlake as a weak link. He just doesn't seem good enough and has had enough chances. I have also decided that Flynn is not really good enough, he is too small and lacks conviction and composure, particularly when he had that good chance to score when through on goal and just blasted the ball straight at the goalkeeper.


I thought McGinn was excellent when he came on, some terrific corners and overall industry. His introduction change the game. Taylor looked hungry and keen to do well. He was lucky with the first goal through the wall, but his header was well placed from a good cross.


Hall is better than Flynn and we should try and extend his loan.


I thought Coady was quite good he certainly tried his best and should have scored at least one goal with a diving header. He came into the game more when McGinn arrived and I am sure this was as a result of a change in system/tactics.


Collins and Maguire were up against two in form strikers, arguably the best forward line in the league on a wet slippery pitch trying to make up for a weak right back and a midfield over run in the first half. It was never going to be easy.


We could have won that match and the fight back was excellent, some real spirit. Brandy deserves a mention. I like him, quite tenacious and tricky he is a good player at this level.


I am not sure about Doyle. I somehow think he does the things we don't see, and if he wasn't there it could be worse? (Can it get worse?) I would like to see a set-up without him but don't know who in our squad could cover his position or whether a midfield of


Hall McGinn Coady Brandy would work?


Overall some positives to come from the second half performance. I am still mulling over whether I would like Morgan to take the managers job for this year.


Glad I went to the game. Enjoyed a quick pint in the Malt Shovel before the match, very nice indeed.

HH

I've only seen the highlights as work's got in the way,but looking at the goals conceded I would say...
First Goal..great cross from the left..we're turned and facing our own goal..maybe Collins could have got tighter,I don't know,good finish.
Second Goal..Doyle slips,and they get around the back..Wilson gets across Coady..great finish.
Third..Harry gets pulled out of position tracking Wilson,who flicks the ball past him..Westlake gets tight to his man but great movement by Clarke who is free to run across the lad holding the ball and scores.I don't really see that Westlake was at fault,but what was Collins doing..he could have easily covered behind Westlak,but wasn't switched on to the danger.Well worked goal though..watch Clarke as soon as the ball is played into Wilson and he moves to the right..it looks like a well rehearsed move..they all seemed to know what they were doing...one drops deep and tu
I don't think we're that bad.


We lost two first half goals which were both very well taken. The first goal came from a deflected cross. The second goal was a cracker, which came following a stumble from one of our lads in the build up on the very wet ground in that corner of the pitch. I doubt if they had those chances again they would hit the target more than three times in ten.


The third goal was poor and this is where I would single out Westlake as a weak link. He just doesn't seem good enough and has had enough chances. I have also decided that Flynn is not really good enough, he is too small and lacks conviction and composure, particularly when he had that good chance to score when through on goal and just blasted the ball straight at the goalkeeper.


I thought McGinn was excellent when he came on, some terrific corners and overall industry. His introduction change the game. Taylor looked hungry and keen to do well. He was lucky with the first goal through the wall, but his header was well placed from a good cross.


Hall is better than Flynn and we should try and extend his loan.


I thought Coady was quite good he certainly tried his best and should have scored at least one goal with a diving header. He came into the game more when McGinn arrived and I am sure this was as a result of a change in system/tactics.


Collins and Maguire were up against two in form strikers, arguably the best forward line in the league on a wet slippery pitch trying to make up for a weak right back and a midfield over run in the first half. It was never going to be easy.


We could have won that match and the fight back was excellent, some real spirit. Brandy deserves a mention. I like him, quite tenacious and tricky he is a good player at this level.


I am not sure about Doyle. I somehow think he does the things we don't see, and if he wasn't there it could be worse? (Can it get worse?) I would like to see a set-up without him but don't know who in our squad could cover his position or whether a midfield of


Hall McGinn Coady Brandy would work?


Overall some positives to come from the second half performance. I am still mulling over whether I would like Morgan to take the managers job for this year.


Glad I went to the game. Enjoyed a quick pint in the Malt Shovel before the match, very nice indeed.

HH

Just looked at the goals again,and the first was a good cross and finish with our defense turned and running towards our own goal...maybe Collins could have got tighter but good goal.
Second goal..Doyle slips and they get around the back..Wilson gets across Coady and great finish..maybe Coady could have done better.
Third goal..Harry tracks Wilson and makes a nothing challenge and can't recover as the ball is turned in to Moussa..who holds the ball and Clarke runs across him and scores...to be fair Westlake is marking Moussa..but what was Collins doing,he could have easily covered the space in behind Westlake but wasn't aware enough.

 
Not that I would touch Morgan with a barge pole as a permanent manager, but wouldn't you agree he is a better manager than Weir? Morgan after all has managed 2 wins in his 8 game managerial career and both those wins were against 11 men. Weir, on the other hand, managed 1 win in 13 and that was against 10 men....

History will show. I'm confident Weir will have a far better managerial career than Muckanettles. In fact, I don't think Morgan will have any such career at all. So far as I am aware, he hasn't been offered any other jobs at all despite his tour de force at the end of last season. He's a coach at SUFC as part of a cost cutting drive, just as Cresswell was, not because he has the slightest aptitude for the task.

He's getting praise for the second half on Sunday, for heaven's sake! Was someone else in charge for the first appalling 45?

Bladey useless Blade. Get rid.
 
History will show. I'm confident Weir will have a far better managerial career than Muckanettles. In fact, I don't think Morgan will have any such career at all. So far as I am aware, he hasn't been offered any other jobs at all despite his tour de force at the end of last season. He's a coach at SUFC as part of a cost cutting drive, just as Cresswell was, not because he has the slightest aptitude for the task.

He's getting praise for the second half on Sunday, for heaven's sake! Was someone else in charge for the first appalling 45?

Bladey useless Blade. Get rid.
Yes it was Weirs team and tactics which he had picked on Friday ,Morgan changed it the second half and gave us our most attacking/exciting half of the season.
 
History will show. I'm confident Weir will have a far better managerial career than Muckanettles. In fact, I don't think Morgan will have any such career at all. So far as I am aware, he hasn't been offered any other jobs at all despite his tour de force at the end of last season. He's a coach at SUFC as part of a cost cutting drive, just as Cresswell was, not because he has the slightest aptitude for the task.

He's getting praise for the second half on Sunday, for heaven's sake! Was someone else in charge for the first appalling 45?

Bladey useless Blade. Get rid.

My feeling, is that Weir is another Peters. Tried this managerial lark. Failed at it dismally. Won't try it again.
 
Morgan is a Dingle any ruad. Maybe he'll get a shot at managing the mighty Reds next season, when they are in League One. I would back that decision! Oh how I would love to see him at the helm at Barnsley FC (and far away from BDTBL). They'd be perfect for each other. The 'It's just like watching Brazil brigade' wi muck n nettles directing them into the 4th division (where they belong!?).
 
Yes it was Weirs team and tactics which he had picked on Friday ,Morgan changed it the second half and gave us our most attacking/exciting half of the season.

Good Lord - a tactical genius! Who'd have thought it when we were losing so pitifully and gutlessly to Portsmouth and Yeovil and in the first half on Sunday. We'll be fighting off big money approaches for this latter-day Shankly. Quick, give him a ten year contract.
 
Cannot believe some of the posts having a pop at Morgs the man is employed by this club and he and everybody knows he's only filling in.

How we could do with him playing now McGuire and Collins aren't fit to lace his boots
 
Good Lord - a tactical genius! Who'd have thought it when we were losing so pitifully and gutlessly to Portsmouth and Yeovil and in the first half on Sunday. We'll be fighting off big money approaches for this latter-day Shankly. Quick, give him a ten year contract.

Look, a lot of people agree with your you on playing football etc; etc; however Morgan is stepping in to help out. He didn't apply for caretaker or even give himself the job so shut the fuck up giving him grief
 

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