Is it more fun in the Championship?

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Would you rather be a successful Champioship team or a poor Premier League team?

  • Yes

    Votes: 309 89.8%
  • No

    Votes: 35 10.2%

  • Total voters
    344
Everytime we score, the bent bastards scrutinise it to fuck to make sure it doesnt count. Its not football, its not entertainment. The sooner the big 6 fuck off and form their private members club, and we go back to non Var entertaining football the better.
How painful was the Brighton cup games.

Two perfectly legitimate goals, well officiated that VAR decided to turn into 6 minutes of nonsense, sucking the life out of two moments of excitement.
 



We need a regime overseeing the running of the club that operates using joined-up thinking, as opposed to the fucking crayon eaters having an enthusiastic-but-shit go now.
Crayon eaters - love it 😻
 
We need a regime overseeing the running of the club that operates using joined-up thinking, as opposed to the fucking crayon eaters having an enthusiastic-but-shit go now.
At least with Wilder 1.0 there was a very clear way of playing.

Keeper obviously.

Then one centre back who is head it and kick it and can start attacks but not overly ambitious in possession, Egan.

Two mobile centre backs who are fit, tall, althletic and can also be ball carriers, Basham and O’Connell.

Two fit wingbacks who are good in possession and can get up and down well, Baldock and Stevens.

One midfielder who patrols the middle third, protects the defence and helps to retain possession, Coutts and latterly Norwood.

One midfielder who goes box to box, cab be creative and score occasionally, Fleck.

One midfielder who performs a similar role to the more defensive one but helps us keep possession in the final third and allows a means of chance creations through through balls and spreading it wide, and can occasionally score, Duffy.

One forward who links midfield to attack, can drop deep, score but also create and is good at retaining possession, McGoldrick.

One clinical forward who can Harry and harass, Sharp.

I found this to be an extremely clear blueprint. Even in getting promoted, we opted for Lundstram to do a right sided Fleck role and did away with the Duffy role or merged it with McGoldrick’s.

This time around I’m not clear what the plan is.

We went up with Ndiaye and McBurnie but then when Ndiaye left, arguably the McGoldrick role, we replaced him with a second Sharp, in Archer, albeit more mobile.

We have Souza there but he isn’t great in possession. We have Hamer who we seem to shunt around in that he probably isn’t sure whether he’s meant to be box to box or what and we have Brooks, who I do feel could take over from Fleck.

We’ve then brought in Brereton-Diaz which effectively torpedoes 3-5-2 as he comes in from wide. So it then forces us to be 4-3-3 or 3-4-3. The problem with the latter is that two midfielders at this level simply risk being overrun.

So the obviously thing to get all your better players in is to stick to 4-3-3 and play McAtee and BBD out wide and Archer or McBurnie depending on the opposition.

But then, the question is on Holgate. Is he good enough in a 4 at centre back instead of Anel or can he add value at right back and support Anel? If not, is he really worth compromising either our attacking options or our midfield solidity just to accommodate him in a three?

Once Ndiaye left we should have earmarked MacAtee for this role and made midfield more robust. Or been bold enough to switch to 4-3-3 early on.

As it is, we’ve not really done either. We’ve simply recruited reasonable players for our budget in Archer, McAtee, Brereton-Diaz but with no cohesive plan to play them other than one we’ve just undermined by signing a defender who seems to best fit a three.
 
How painful was the Brighton cup games.

Two perfectly legitimate goals, well officiated that VAR decided to turn into 6 minutes of nonsense, sucking the life out of two moments of excitement.
The undermining and lack of trust in the linesman in that game was ridiculous.
 
They go on about any team in the championship being able to beat another, but I watched a bit of the game last night and was surprised that either of those teams has won any games, the standard was that bad.
 
I’m watching Manyoo v Fulham and, after the joy of proper football this last 10 days, (no VAR, diving, play acting general shithousery) I have to say that you can stuff the PL where the sun don’t shine. Of course we want to get promoted, for financial reasons but, as a fan of football, it really is a thoroughly unattractive prospect
 
Am I missing something. How do you vote this question with only YES or NO ?

"Would you rather be a successful Champioship team or a poor Premier League team?"​

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Yes. It's a very ambiguously framed question.
Surely a better way of phrasing would be:
1,Would you rather be a successful championship team
Or
2, Would you rather be a poor Premiership team.
Pick only one option
 
I’m watching Manyoo v Fulham and, after the joy of proper football this last 10 days, (no VAR, diving, play acting general shithousery) I have to say that you can stuff the PL where the sun don’t shine. Of course we want to get promoted, for financial reasons but, as a fan of football, it really is a thoroughly unattractive prospect
Cov v Oxford was a fantastic game
 
If EFL play their cards right they could win in out over the PL as what people really want. This is the essence of football, not the he PL hype.
 
Where as the Prem will always be the ultimate goal…We learnt a very hard lesson last season as we went into the “best league in the world” with a team on it’s last legs and with very little preparation. I think the Championship will be more sympathetic to a club like us, embarking on a total rebuild.
 
I actually love what we’ve done this season. I do want us to go up, because nothing beats a season of winning games every weekend.

We have a young squad, with a few one of our owns, who are fantastic players. Wilder seems to have changed and we’re playing exciting, fast football.

I feel like the shedding of the old guard is like a re-birth.
 
The championship always had the edge for me atmosphere wise and rivalries. The quality has improved alot in recent years and attractive football is more common than hoof ball. VAR would kill it though.
Agreed, it's like a breath of fresh air watching a game without VAR.
 



Surely a better way of phrasing would be:
1,Would you rather be a successful championship team
Or
2, Would you rather be a poor Premiership team.
Pick only one option
Alas it tends to be buy one get one free, by being 1) you also get 2) as part of the deal
 
Agreed, it's like a breath of fresh air watching a game without VAR.

This season in the PL they are bringing in new rules where VAR hardly get involved unless there’s a clear and obvious error by the ref

But my feelings with refs and VAR is that fans don’t want fair and accurate decisions. They consistently want any decision that helps them win.

So there will still be loads of controversy with fans saying there was a clear and obvious error so why did VAR intervene?
 
Obviously this season it’s clearly more fun in the Championship but if we want our club to grow and develop then we desperately to return to the PL asap.

We will be much better prepared if we return with Wilder because he will have learnt so much from last season.

My view is that one of the main reasons we struggled last season is that we underestimated the massive effect of the new 5 subs from 7 subs rule.

The 1st 11 isn’t so important. In the PL it’s the strength of the bench that can transforms games. Also in the PL playing possession football is key because it relieves pressure off the defense giving them time to reset, so it’s nice to see our midfield looking comfortable in possession and beating PNE early pressing style.
 
EFL as a whole is more competitive than the Premier League.

Recent years in the premier league you get 4 teams capable of winning it and roughly another 4 capable of challenging for Europe. More so with how many teams are throwing huge sums of money at players.

Then you get 4 or 5 teams that are destined for a relegation fight, often including the promoted teams.

This leaves the other 11-12 teams really having nothing to play for and consigned to mid table as they are too good to avoid relegation but not good enough to challenge for Europe or the title.

At least in the EFL, it's more of a level playing field so all of the 24 teams in each league know they have as much chance of promotion as they do relegation.

Simply put, it's more competitive than the Premier League, you just get better players in the Premier League.
 
Winning is fun , success is fun no matter what league your in . I've watched the blades have great seasons in all lower divisions , and 1 good season in the top flight , enjoyed them all.
Getting beat most weeks in any division is rubbish yet in the PL we look to blame money , VAR, etc and call it corrupt and rubbish it when in the main we've not just been good enough.
I don't buy the narrative that the PL is a bad place to be , it signifies you've reached the top echelons , we simply have to raise our game to compete there.
The championship is a great league, decent clubs , good support and competitive, for many clubs it's as far as they'll ever get . However for us we've had a taste of PL football and for all its flaws it's a great place to win .
 
This season in the PL they are bringing in new rules where VAR hardly get involved unless there’s a clear and obvious error by the ref

But my feelings with refs and VAR is that fans don’t want fair and accurate decisions. They consistently want any decision that helps them win.

So there will still be loads of controversy with fans saying there was a clear and obvious error so why did VAR intervene?
VAR is easy to fix.

No decisions are to be made by someone in a room miles away. Absolutely no.

Automated offsides, goal line etc. Again, no influence from a bloke in a room.

Penalties/handball etc. VAR only to refer to incident and invite the ref to "take a look". Ref makes the decision whether to look or keep initial decision.

Mike up the ref so decisions can be heard.
 
VAR is easy to fix.

No decisions are to be made by someone in a room miles away. Absolutely no.

Automated offsides, goal line etc. Again, no influence from a bloke in a room.

Penalties/handball etc. VAR only to refer to incident and invite the ref to "take a look". Ref makes the decision whether to look or keep initial decision.

Mike up the ref so decisions can be heard.
Yes, easy to fix - just get rid of it
 
As a relatively impartial, I'd say - yes. There seems to be a real optimism about the lane currently. Last year was just depressing
 
I'd say being mullered every week in the prem is not a great incentive to gain promotion but generally the season as a whole is very enjoyable. Absolutely hated last 2 Christmases in the prem but always love them in the championship.
 



I actually love what we’ve done this season. I do want us to go up, because nothing beats a season of winning games every weekend.

We have a young squad, with a few one of our owns, who are fantastic players. Wilder seems to have changed and we’re playing exciting, fast football.

I feel like the shedding of the old guard is like a re-birth.
And if we don’t go up it’s likely the young squad will be sold
 

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