McBurnie and Egan

[TJ blade]

When was the last time this happened?

Egan played 90 minutes in the league just 4 times this season. It’s not possible to compare him with the rest of our defenders this season.

He played in the Newcastle mauling and like the rest of them was fucking awful.

 

[Laney Blade]

Wilders lost it mate..

He has to do as instructed by the board. His programme notes were interesting today. Recruitment is by the Recruitment Team , the board , & Uncle Tom Cobbley, & All.

 

[TJ blade]

He has to do as instructed by the board. His programme notes were interesting today. Recruitment is by the Recruitment Team , the board , & Uncle Tom Cobbley, & All.

Oh fucking hell! Were in the shit right then.

 

[SWB]

Well if Egan is staying , we need to recruit a dominant leader of a CB to challenge him for his place.
Whilst Egan has been here he has been a shoe-in with no competition for his place
and now that he's older , slower & recovering from a major injury , we simply cannot afford to rely on him being in form & ever-present

Give it a break ..... constantly whinging about things you haven't a clue about ....... you are not involved in a professional capacity.

 

[Woodhouseblades]

Egan was sat with his pals Bash and Norwood in the South Stand players area today.

Oli McBurmie did his little warm up but didn’t get on the pitch.

It would have been nice to know one way or another if they were going to be with us next season. So that we could have given them a proper send off.

Over to you two now lads. Hope you both stay but I can’t see it. Feels like you owe us one.

Mcburnie definitely gone he wants too much money Egan - who knows

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

If McB is behind Brewster & Jebbo (they were both brought on before him today) then I can't understand the logic of offering him a contract , especially when he's out injured so often.
Or is this Wilder playing games , not bringing him on coz he hasn't signed the reduced terms ?
So much of what goes on at the club is hard to fathom - why play Archer who definitely won't be here , leaving 3 who will potentially be here, on the bench ?

Been saying that for weeks. Hecky fucked up last season giving Sharp minutes that should have gone to Osula/Jebbison. Turns out that decision hurt us/Osula as we needed him to play the first half dozen games this season.

We could be in the same boat next season. Archer, Diaz getting minutes that would help the development of Jebbison/Osula.

 

[alcoblade]

Wilders lost it mate..

MacBurnie comes back from injury quickly, gets injured, followed by cries of "what was the point of that in such a meaningless game - Wilder's lost it!"

 

[Agreasychipbutty]

Whether or not we exercise our option ought to depend on the progress of his recovery from long-term injury and an accurate prognosis of what level of fitness he can achieve.

Wilder said something to that effect in a recent presser regarding Egan and other players who are injured/injury prone and out of contract, so it seems we're going about it the right way at least. Weather or not the medical team come out with the right answer is another story though...

 

[ancientblade]

100% this
I believe at least 2 new centre halves will be joining this summer
Robbo, Egan, Trusty and 2 others
Wouldnt rule out Trusty leaving either

i agree probably worrall possibly souttar and i would let trusty go just hasnt settled here can see him going back to birmingham keeper and defence have to be our first priorities this summer

 

[Gimli]

If McB is behind Brewster & Jebbo (they were both brought on before him today) then I can't understand the logic of offering him a contract , especially when he's out injured so often.
Or is this Wilder playing games , not bringing him on coz he hasn't signed the reduced terms ?
So much of what goes on at the club is hard to fathom - why play Archer who definitely won't be here , leaving 3 who will potentially be here, on the bench ?

He isn’t behind either Brewster or Jebbison.

He had an injury, no need to bring him on in the deadest of dead rubbers.

 

[Nick Jansky]

The question is whether we owe him , not vice versa

We don’t. We’ve paid him very well as a professional sportsperson according to the terms of his lucrative contract. Neither side owes each other anything. It has to be a purely footballing decision.

 

[SwissBlade]

Been saying that for weeks. Hecky fucked up last season giving Sharp minutes that should have gone to Osula/Jebbison. Turns out that decision hurt us/Osula as we needed him to play the first half dozen games this season.

We could be in the same boat next season. Archer, Diaz getting minutes that would help the development of Jebbison/Osula.

I don't agree, Osula has shown very little to say that he deserves a lot more game time, Jebbison has shown perhaps even less.

Osula didn't make the bench yesterday with McBurnie only been fit enough for a few mins, so he was either injured or not good enough to make the bench. Jebbison only came on since McBurnie wasn't fully fit.

For me, these players have to step up and force their way into the side whenever they get an opportunity. That's what Arblaster has done. With more competition he's come into the side and made a position his own.

Osula and Jebbison have to either step up and be a bigger part of the first team or they have to be loaned to get game time and see where they end up

If its a choice of keeping McBurnie or Osula and Jebbison, its McBurnie all the way for me

 

[Champagneblade]

I don't agree, Osula has shown very little to say that he deserves a lot more game time, Jebbison has shown perhaps even less.

Osula didn't make the bench yesterday with McBurnie only been fit enough for a few mins, so he was either injured or not good enough to make the bench. Jebbison only came on since McBurnie wasn't fully fit.

For me, these players have to step up and force their way into the side whenever they get an opportunity. That's what Arblaster has done. With more competition he's come into the side and made a position his own.

Osula and Jebbison have to either step up and be a bigger part of the first team or they have to be loaned to get game time and see where they end up

If its a choice of keeping McBurnie or Osula and Jebbison, its McBurnie all the way for me

Osula is a bit like Graeme Hick was for England when he came through.

He’s an absolute bully now in the U21s, but he’s not quite up to making his mark in the seniors.

Question is how to make that happen.

 

[Bell4]

He isn’t behind either Brewster or Jebbison.

He had an injury, no need to bring him on in the deadest of dead rubbers.

Not hard is it

 

[SwissBlade]

Osula is a bit like Graeme Hick was for England when he came through.

He’s an absolute bully now in the U21s, but he’s not quite up to making his mark in the seniors.

Question is how to make that happen.

Get him out on loan to league one for a season.

 

[Tickhill Blade]

Osula is a bit like Graeme Hick was for England when he came through.

He’s an absolute bully now in the U21s, but he’s not quite up to making his mark in the seniors.

Question is how to make that happen.

Pick him for his part-time spin bowling?

 

[Davalon]

It feels like there's a lot of potential in Jebbo and Osula but imo at least, they look a good way off being at the level to lead our line even at Champ level.

The ultimate mark of a striker is scoring goals and neither have shown that yet in the top two divisions.

I'm still hopeful it will come but not as confident as I was.

 

[Balti Pie]

I don't agree, Osula has shown very little to say that he deserves a lot more game time, Jebbison has shown perhaps even less.

Osula didn't make the bench yesterday with McBurnie only been fit enough for a few mins, so he was either injured or not good enough to make the bench. Jebbison only came on since McBurnie wasn't fully fit.

For me, these players have to step up and force their way into the side whenever they get an opportunity. That's what Arblaster has done. With more competition he's come into the side and made a position his own.

Osula and Jebbison have to either step up and be a bigger part of the first team or they have to be loaned to get game time and see where they end up

If its a choice of keeping McBurnie or Osula and Jebbison, its McBurnie all the way for me

Was Osula being saved for the U21s semi final tonight?
Was Jebbison involved because we're trying to get him to sign with us for next year and beyond?

 

[dexter101]

I am hoping future announcements make us all go "ooohhh" and it will all make sense.

I was wondering whether it was Wilder letting Jebbo and Brewster almost say goodbye to the fans and both will be off this summer, where as we keep McBurnie so whats the point of bringing him on?

I think I am getting into this way to deep now though! There was something written the other day that we couldn't start Souza otherwise we would have to pay more money in transfer fees so I thought Oz must have gone off on purpose but then I realised why in the world would we have wanted Souza on the pitch anyway!

 

[Nicesheffielder]

Egan ?
Does our option include reduced terms after relegation ?
He's getting older & slower.
Whether or not we exercise our option ought to depend on the progress of his recovery from long-term injury and an accurate prognosis of what level of fitness he can achieve.
But knowing us , we'll just keep him.
Which is fine as backup , but not as a starter - we desperately need to recruit a dominant leader for our ragtag defence.

Slower ffs god help us

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I don't agree, Osula has shown very little to say that he deserves a lot more game time, Jebbison has shown perhaps even less.

Osula didn't make the bench yesterday with McBurnie only been fit enough for a few mins, so he was either injured or not good enough to make the bench. Jebbison only came on since McBurnie wasn't fully fit.

For me, these players have to step up and force their way into the side whenever they get an opportunity. That's what Arblaster has done. With more competition he's come into the side and made a position his own.

Osula and Jebbison have to either step up and be a bigger part of the first team or they have to be loaned to get game time and see where they end up

If its a choice of keeping McBurnie or Osula and Jebbison, its McBurnie all the way for me

You're missing the point completely - no doubt you keep McBurnie but thats a totally different conversation.

The point was why play Archer ahead of them? And if not Osula/Jebbison, why not give Marsh and One some PL game time? Let them enter the Pre-Season with a spring in their step.

Everything to do with Archer, from the structure of the deal through to how/when we've used him, makes zero sense.

 

[Nicesheffielder]

Been saying that for weeks. Hecky fucked up last season giving Sharp minutes that should have gone to Osula/Jebbison. Turns out that decision hurt us/Osula as we needed him to play the first half dozen games this season.

We could be in the same boat next season. Archer, Diaz getting minutes that would help the development of Jebbison/Osula.

Osula is not going to get us the goals in Any division Goal Machine my arse ,get anything ££££££ we can for him ASAP

 

[SwissBlade]

You're missing the point completely - no doubt you keep McBurnie but thats a totally different conversation.

The point was why play Archer ahead of them? And if not Osula/Jebbison, why not give Marsh and One some PL game time? Let them enter the Pre-Season with a spring in their step.

Everything to do with Archer, from the structure of the deal through to how/when we've used him, makes zero sense.

I’ve liked Archer when he’s played earlier in his spell with us, Diaz as well. They’ve looked far better than either Jebbison and Osula. Several levels above.

Yesterday we created chances and were unlucky, both Archer and Diaz involved and they looked better together yesterday. But that’s also missing my point.

The point is that neither Osula have looked good enough and haven’t done enough to suggest they should be playing them ahead of the players who’ve played.

I’d rather play the best players rather than just give minutes to let players get premier league minutes on the off chance that they’re good enough. They’re not starting with good reason

It was worrying that the strikers that ended the game - Brewster and Jebbison might be out strike partnership next season

 

[finlaytheblade]

No , it's bollox mate - fit for 15 mins ?
Wtf ?
If that's the case , why on bench ?
If there simply to provide him with 15 mins matchtime , why not bring him on for 15 mins - after all , the result was not material , nor in doubt in the 2nd half.

Wilder changed his mind he was coming on unfortunately the 2nd and 3rd goals went in! I think with the game lost he decided to do it differently and Brewster and Jebbo came on instead probably thought it not worth the risk he his obviously far from match fit! Probably means he will stay.I hope so as replacing him would cost a lot which we need to spend on other areas .Maybe we won't get 46 games out of him (the reason other clubs are wary of signing him) still the best we can get and even 30 games will make a big difference to us.

 

[Bergen Blade]

No , it's bollox mate - fit for 15 mins ?
Wtf ?
If that's the case , why on bench ?
If there simply to provide him with 15 mins matchtime , why not bring him on for 15 mins - after all , the result was not material , nor in doubt in the 2nd half.

Even when not fit I think Wilder may have thought he could be useful if

1 We were pushing for an equaliser and needed some aerial threat
2 We were under pressure, and we needed help to defend set pieces
3 We needed some hold up play up front

So, even if McBurnie couldn't run at full speed, even if he couldn't play for long without either aggravating an injury or risk a new one, he may have done a job towards the end of the game. In the end we needed someone who could play a bit longer.

 

[Keen Blade]

Wilder changed his mind he was coming on unfortunately the 2nd and 3rd goals went in! I think with the game lost he decided to do it differently and Brewster and Jebbo came on instead probably thought it not worth the risk he his obviously far from match fit! Probably means he will stay.I hope so as replacing him would cost a lot which we need to spend on other areas .Maybe we won't get 46 games out of him (the reason other clubs are wary of signing him) still the best we can get and even 30 games will make a big difference to us.

I get your explanation but unlike you I'm fed up with McB injuries so hope we don't keep him

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

i agree probably worrall possibly souttar and i would let trusty go just hasnt settled here can see him going back to birmingham keeper and defence have to be our first priorities this summer

Trusty was Birmingham's player of the season in the Championship. Why would he go back to them in League One? That makes no sense. Even then he came from Arsenal to us, not Birmingham.

I know a couple of Birmingham fans and they always ask how Trusty is doing, as he was class for them last season.

Maybe he is just a very good Championship defender and just not cut out for the Premier League. There's nothing wrong with that. Billy Sharp was consistently too good for the Championship but never good enough for the Premier League.

I always refer to these kinds of players as Huckerbys, as Darren Huckerby was always the same throughout his career. Far too good for the Championship, but not cut out for the top flight.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Trusty was Birmingham's player of the season in the Championship. Why would he go back to them in League One? That makes no sense. Even then he came from Arsenal to us, not Birmingham.

I know a couple of Birmingham fans and they always ask how Trusty is doing, as he was class for them last season.

Maybe he is just a very good Championship defender and just not cut out for the Premier League. There's nothing wrong with that. Billy Sharp was consistently too good for the Championship but never good enough for the Premier League.

I always refer to these kinds of players as Huckerbys, as Darren Huckerby was always the same throughout his career. Far too good for the Championship, but not cut out for the top flight.

Neither of the players you've named looked like they lacked basic competence as footballers in the top division. Just that they didn't excel.

For him to play well next season he will have to drastically improve on this season's levels. Maybe he can. But this hasn't been a good player just short. It's been a calamity.

Also, Huckerby scored over 50 PL goals

 

[ancientblade]

Trusty was Birmingham's player of the season in the Championship. Why would he go back to them in League One? That makes no sense. Even then he came from Arsenal to us, not Birmingham.

I know a couple of Birmingham fans and they always ask how Trusty is doing, as he was class for them last season.

Maybe he is just a very good Championship defender and just not cut out for the Premier League. There's nothing wrong with that. Billy Sharp was consistently too good for the Championship but never good enough for the Premier League.

I always refer to these kinds of players as Huckerbys, as Darren Huckerby was always the same throughout his career. Far too good for the Championship, but not cut out for the top flight.

we need better

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

we need better

What if Trusty is better next season, back in a division that he knows and is competent in?

You're writing off Trusty based on this season, well you might as well write off our entire squad with the exception of Hamer, Arblaster and Robinson as none of the rest come out of this season with any credit. I've got more faith in Trusty next season than Anel, Souza or Bogle defensively at right back.