CONFIRMED Oliver Arblaster signs a new contract

[mattbianco1]

getting Flecky's number 4 shirt

Was just about to say the same.
A kid I know said he's been told he'll be given number 4.

For him to get that, it must mean he wasn't given* an official squad number in August / *registered

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

Someone here said he will be signing the new contract and getting Flecky's number 4 shirt

I certainly hope that is true.
Have a few buddies in Staffordshire who support the Vale, and they were very impressed by him there, both in terms of his play and attitude.A real prospect.
He comes over as a genuine lad with his head screwed on in the interview
Always, good to see a real Blade in the colours as well.
Come on United, get him signed up on a long contract.

 

[Bladeloyal]

The lad is a proper player ,and a blade to boot

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

The contract is dragging, any closer?

 

[JohnDenver]

Was just about to say the same.
A kid I know said he's been told he'll be given number 4.

For him to get that, it must mean he wasn't given* an official squad number in August / *registered

I think he’d prefer a million pound contract to a shirt number.

 

[metty]

I think he’d prefer a million pound contract to a shirt number.

Surely getting one will lead to the other.

 

[Bladeloyal]

I'm sure they know they have a gem on their hands and pay him a sensible salary.
Great interview by the lad aswell

 

[Rodley]

The contract is dragging

 

[Houston_Blade]

The contract is dragging, any closer?

No young player can resist the temptation of an offer from their boyhood club, unless their boyhood club is us then we’ll get fed another excuse when he leaves for £500k and a pre season friendly so we could balance the books!

 

[Valley Blade]

No young player can resist the temptation of an offer from their boyhood club, unless their boyhood club is us then we’ll get fed another excuse when he leaves for £500k and a pre season friendly so we could balance the books!

Any examples of this?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Any examples of this?

Players leaving to go their ‘boyhood clubs’?

I can think of a notable one recently.

Whilst the £500k and pre season friendly was tongue in cheek, we achieved a lot less than the player was worth both to us and in the market at that time.

 

[Valley Blade]

Players leaving to go their ‘boyhood clubs’?

I can think of a notable one recently.

Whilst the £500k and pre season friendly was tongue in cheek, we achieved a lot less than the player was worth both to us and in the market at that time.

Your implication was that United will fail to tie down Arblaster to a contract. You also implied that this only happens to United. All this United bashing and sneering is so tiresome, boring and often inaccurate.

 

[Valley Blade]

Players leaving to go their ‘boyhood clubs’?

I can think of a notable one recently.

Whilst the £500k and pre season friendly was tongue in cheek, we achieved a lot less than the player was worth both to us and in the market at that time.

The player is only worth what someone will pay for him. His worth to us would have been zero at the end of his contract.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Your implication was that United will fail to tie down Arblaster to a contract. You also implied that this only happens to United. All this United bashing and sneering is so tiresome, boring and often inaccurate.

The player is only worth what someone will pay for him. His worth to us would have been zero at the end of his contract.

I prefer gallows humour to relentless clapping when it comes to how our club is run.

You do you though.

Just to clarify I don’t actually think we’ll get £500k for him and I’m hopeful he’ll sign a contract. However we don’t have a great record at this new contract lark so I’m prepared for the worst.

 

[Nick Jansky]

However we don’t have a great record at this new contract lark so I’m prepared for the worst.

We do, actually.

We lost Lundstram at the end of his contract. A few years ago now. I wasn’t too bothered about that.

Then we have Berge & Ndiaye. Berge made it clear he wouldn’t sign a new contract. Ndiaye had actually agreed a new contract until emotions played a part.

Who else have we ever lost under similar circumstances?

 

[Valley Blade]

I prefer gallows humour to relentless clapping when it comes to how our club is run.

You do you though.

Just to clarify I don’t actually think we’ll get £500k for him and I’m hopeful he’ll sign a contract. However we don’t have a great record at this new contract lark so I’m prepared for the worst.

We probably have a fantastic record at the new contract lark. However, it suits your narrative to just pick out the one's that go against us. No club can make people sign contracts. Offer more money you cry. Dangerous path if they aren't good enough. Surely, this season is proving that.

 

[Houston_Blade]

We do, actually.

We lost Lundstram at the end of his contract. A few years ago now. I wasn’t too bothered about that.

Then we have Berge & Ndiaye. Berge made it clear he wouldn’t sign a new contract. Ndiaye had actually agreed a new contract until emotions played a part.

Who else have we ever lost under similar circumstances?

It’s not just about making sure contracts are signed, it’s about making sure the correct contracts are offered and signed.

In recent years we’ve allowed some high performing players to leave on the cheap (my opinion and yours may differ, that’s fair enough) yet offered new contracts to players based on sentiment rather than performance.

There are always other reasons why players leave, however we heard from our owner that he doesn’t like to give contracts too early because in American Football players play better in their final year.

This is the strategy and message from the top and it’s bollocks.

We probably have a fantastic record at the new contract lark. However, it suits your narrative to just pick out the one's that go against us. No club can make people sign contracts. Offer more money you cry. Dangerous path if they aren't good enough. Surely, this season is proving that.

If we have a great record then we have nothing to worry about, not tying our better players down earlier has cost us this season without doubt.

Luckily we seem to be getting rid of the deadwood using hindsight and signing the promising youngsters on longer terms deals.

Please don’t take opposing views to your own too personally, if we all clapped along then forums would be pointless.

 

[Nick Jansky]

In recent years we’ve allowed some high performing players to leave on the cheap (my opinion and yours may differ, that’s fair enough)

Which high performing players have we, in your opinion, allowed to leave on the cheap in recent years?

 

[Frank the tank]

Houston he has a problem

 

[Valley Blade]

It’s not just about making sure contracts are signed, it’s about making sure the correct contracts are offered and signed.

In recent years we’ve allowed some high performing players to leave on the cheap (my opinion and yours may differ, that’s fair enough) yet offered new contracts to players based on sentiment rather than performance.

There are always other reasons why players leave, however we heard from our owner that he doesn’t like to give contracts too early because in American Football players play better in their final year.

This is the strategy and message from the top and it’s bollocks.


If we have a great record then we have nothing to worry about, not tying our better players down earlier has cost us this season without doubt.

Luckily we seem to be getting rid of the deadwood using hindsight and signing the promising youngsters on longer terms deals.

Please don’t take opposing views to your own too personally, if we all clapped along then forums would be pointless.

Your first sentence is the real point though. You can't "make sure contracts are signed." How? Club can make an offer it deems right for the club. That's all it can do. I agree about certain players they've offered them to but that's just opinion. I think United will be far more competent than you give them credit for. As for the out of contract boys, theyd do well to sign up. I doubt any of them are going to a better club than us.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Which high performing players have we, in your opinion, allowed to leave on the cheap in recent years?

Ndiaye, Berge, Lundstram (take away the strop and he was one of our better players at the time) all named by yourself, the issue being that we didn’t replace the skills lost by any of the above after they left.

Further back as a selling club: Adams, Murphy, Maguire, Brooks, McDonald, Lowton, Blackman, Williamson etc. however the context behind these was different as we were league 1 and skint so weren’t really in a position to negotiate.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Your first sentence is the real point though. You can't "make sure contracts are signed." How? Club can make an offer it deems right for the club. That's all it can do. I agree about certain players they've offered them to but that's just opinion. I think United will be far more competent than you give them credit for. As for the out of contract boys, theyd do well to sign up. I doubt any of them are going to a better club than us.

If you make a compelling offer then it goes a long way to getting the deal done.

Nothing is guaranteed but we always hear the “once a Blade, always a Blade” line and if the player enjoys the club and the money is right then why would they leave? The market should be offering similar wages so if it’s a case of staying at a club they like or moving into the unknown even footballers aren’t that daft!

 

[Nick Jansky]

Ndiaye, Berge, Lundstram (take away the strop and he was one of our better players at the time) all named by yourself, the issue being that we didn’t replace the skills lost by any of the above after they left.

Further back as a selling club: Adams, Murphy, Maguire, Brooks, McDonald, Lowton, Blackman, Williamson etc. however the context behind these was different as we were league 1 and skint so weren’t really in a position to negotiate.

Very arguable that Lundstram was one of our better players, he had half a good season over the entire length of his contract.

None of the players in your 2nd paragraph left because we allowed their contracts to run down.

That leaves us with the very specific cases of Berge & Ndiaye. Over a 10 year period. So the only sensible conclusion is that your assertion that we are bad at renewing contracts was wrong.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Very arguable that Lundstram was one of our better players, he had half a good season over the entire length of his contract.

None of the players in your 2nd paragraph left because we allowed their contracts to run down.

That leaves us with the very specific cases of Berge & Ndiaye. Over a 10 year period. So the only sensible conclusion is that your assertion that we are bad at renewing contracts was wrong.

As I said, it wasn’t just about those who we haven’t renewed, there are a lot of instances where contracts have been renewed for too long for past it players.

Some of the players in the 2nd paragraph left for less than we could have got if they were on longer term deals. That’s how it works.

Lundstram was one of our best players for the half season where we were pushing for Europe. His performance dropped when this went to his head and the contract issues began.

It’s all just an opinion of mine, I’m not overly fussed if it’s right or wrong. Some people have differing opinions on matters, who’d have thought?!

 

[Pedro's Winger]

Very arguable that Lundstram was one of our better players, he had half a good season over the entire length of his contract.

None of the players in your 2nd paragraph left because we allowed their contracts to run down.

That leaves us with the very specific cases of Berge & Ndiaye. Over a 10 year period. So the only sensible conclusion is that your assertion that we are bad at renewing contracts was wrong.

Overall contract management has been terrible though.
To have started this season with that shambles on opening day was embarrassing and we're heading into another summer with impending contract chaos on the horizon.
We were promoted around six weeks or more before Luton. The difference in management of the clubs and their playing squads is remarkable.

 

[Carlton Blade]

We do, actually.

We lost Lundstram at the end of his contract. A few years ago now. I wasn’t too bothered about that.

Then we have Berge & Ndiaye. Berge made it clear he wouldn’t sign a new contract. Ndiaye had actually agreed a new contract until emotions played a part.

Who else have we ever lost under similar circumstances?

We're about to lose Baldock, Egan, McBurnie, Foderingham, Lowe etc etc. There'll be no return on those players

 

[Berkshire Blade]

We're about to lose Baldock, Egan, McBurnie, Foderingham, Lowe etc etc. There'll be no return on those players

If we weren't quite so shit on the pitch a lot more would be made of this

 

[Wards]

If it helps anyone feel better you could probably console yourself that we've sweated assets like Baldock, Egan & Foderingham to the extent that they don't really owe us anything. Still fucking daft practice to lose them for nothing though, assuming they all have a resale value that makes extending their contracts worthwhile.

 

[Nick Jansky]

We're about to lose Baldock, Egan, McBurnie, Foderingham, Lowe etc etc. There'll be no return on those players

Yep, quite natural when a player reaches the end of their usefulness. gets older or develops regular injury issues. Only McBurnie there we might have got a decentish fee for. Would you have renewed them all a year ago, with resigning bonuses etc?

 

[Nick Jansky]

If we weren't quite so shit on the pitch a lot more would be made of this

Or if they were major assets that we are desperate to pay huge salaries to keep.