Jebbo

[Sean Thornton]

The blood clot is what has been keeping him out. I heard that from a reliable source months ago.

I suspect there’s a fair amount of skepticism about how we manage the medical care of the players amongst the playing staff.

The article isn’t revelatory stuff.

A blood clot that’s been there months? More likely complications arising from one if true, but then again l’m not a doctor so what do l know? The article isn’t really informative either, just a pop at the club.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I always find this comment a bit meh. 'Experienced Heads' - to do what exactly? It's a throwaway comment like you'd hear off some no mark on TalkSport.

Surely we need a squad with two players challenging for each position with the physical attributes that are fit for purpose in 2023? If some of those are experienced players, then fine, but the reason we're in this predicament is we've retained players based on nondescript notions like 'experienced Heads' as opposed to actual ability. It's 2023 not 1983. The game is getting more physical, athletic, dynamic, faster. If we're retaining players based on 'experience' then we'll be playing chequers whilst everyone else is playing chess.

I disagree. "Experienced heads" are the ones who have been there, seen it, done it & know what's required when the team is up against it. The players with the character, earned through experience, that the others respect & listen to. As I said, I'm not sure that Egan & Norwood are the players for that, but I would certainly want a couple of older (27-30) calmer heads in there.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I'm certainly overegging the point. But the time he needed to be playing games was Jan 2020-end of last season. He'd have likely been almost as helpless as Osula has been for the majority of this season

It's a great point. Hecky has proved to be somewhat of a paradox in that he brought Ndiaye through brilliantly but then seemed to get nowhere with Osula, Jebbison, Coulibally, Regan Slater and Kyron Gordon. How different things would be looking now if two or three of those were in proper first team contention!

 

[Alan Birchenall's hair]

It's a great point. Hecky has proved to be somewhat of a paradox in that he brought Ndiaye through brilliantly but then seemed to get nowhere with Osula, Jebbison, Coulibally, Regan Slater and Kyron Gordon. How different things would be looking now if two or three of those were in proper first team contention!

Probably because none of those mentioned are anywhere near as good as Ndiaye, or anywhere near good enough for for the Premier League. Just saying it and hoping it don't make it so.

 

[MosboroughBlade]

He's not that good based on 886 minutes for the first team, mostly in cameos? On that reckoning, I imagine that Billy Sharp kid will be in non-league all his career

No he's just not good enough, he can play a million minutes and that won't matter. He was average at Burton.

 

[Carlton Blade]

No he's just not good enough, he can play a million minutes and that won't matter. He was average at Burton.

He won L1 player of the month at Burton. He started slowly and was playing very well by the time we took him back.

Cameron Archer was scoring 1 in 6 in the Conference at the age Jebbo is now.

I get it, he's a bit sullen and you don't like him. But what exactly are you saying he's "not good enough" for?

 

[MosboroughBlade]

He won L1 player of the month at Burton. He started slowly and was playing very well by the time we took him back.

Cameron Archer was scoring 1 in 6 in the Conference at the age Jebbo is now.

I get it, he's a bit sullen and you don't like him. But what exactly are you saying he's "not good enough" for?

Because he isn't and yeah your billy sharp analogy works except for the fact he was always scoring goals from scunthorpe onwards. Oh and nothing to do with not liking him, just my opinion he's not that good.

 

[andy m]

He won L1 player of the month at Burton. He started slowly and was playing very well by the time we took him back.

Cameron Archer was scoring 1 in 6 in the Conference at the age Jebbo is now.

I get it, he's a bit sullen and you don't like him. But what exactly are you saying he's "not good enough" for?

Maybe Cameron Archer has worked hard and improved but Daniel Jebbison hasn't?

 

[Carlton Blade]

Because he isn't and yeah your billy sharp analogy works except for the fact he was always scoring goals from scunthorpe onwards. Oh and nothing to do with not liking him, just my opinion he's not that good.

Jebbison scored for Burton and hasn't played more than the odd game in the 2 years since. He achieved more than Sharp at a younger age

How old was Sharp when he was scoring all those goals for Scunthorpe?

 

[Carlton Blade]

Maybe Cameron Archer has worked hard and improved but Daniel Jebbison hasn't?

He's 2 years older. At Jebbos age, Archer was in the Conference. Which bit aren't you getting?

 

[Uncle mick]

How does a blood test end up resulting in a blood clot? Is it not possible the blood clot was already there and was discovered by the club and someone has put 2+2 together and got 5?

As to him taking action on loss of earnings, if the club is at fault then let’s not forget he’s not had any appearance money or goal bonuses available to him. Meanwhile Osula, who he may have seen himself ahead of, has been involved in first team action. So maybe he uses that as the basis?

Either way, hopefully he can put it behind him and move on to you Wilder.

Goal bonus that will be 2 bob and a carrot

 

[dc_blade]

He was average at Burton.

He went to Burton a month after his eighteenth birthday and scored better than one in three. Not many strikers are scoring goals at that age. Compare him to some of the lads in and around his age group for England: Liam Delap, Jay Stansfield, Dane Scarlett. None of them have shown a great deal more so far.

Jebbison may not make it for us but he needs a great deal more time before he's judged.

 

[MosboroughBlade]

I respect all views doesn't mean I agree with them. He's not that good IMHO.

 

[Houston_Blade]

It's a great point. Hecky has proved to be somewhat of a paradox in that he brought Ndiaye through brilliantly but then seemed to get nowhere with Osula, Jebbison, Coulibally, Regan Slater and Kyron Gordon. How different things would be looking now if two or three of those were in proper first team contention!

To flip this on its head, Ndiaye might have been the only one who’s any good out of those named above. You can’t polish a turd no matter how much the chairman needs to you to for financial reasons!

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

To flip this on its head, Ndiaye might have been the only one who’s any good out of those named above. You can’t polish a turd no matter how much the chairman needs to you to for financial reasons!

Maybe. But Slater is doing a serviceable enough job for Hull, Coulibally did ok v Spursand Jebbison/Osula haven't disgraced themselves in the PL.... Instead we had healthy doses of Sharp, Fleck and Norwood.... Not saying any would have hit Ndiaye's level, but to have not brought any one through to be at least a 'squad filler' has led us to be wasting money (and taking a gamble) on the likes of Traore, Larouchi and retaining Fleck, Basham, Osborn....

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Probably because none of those mentioned are anywhere near as good as Ndiaye, or anywhere near good enough for for the Premier League. Just saying it and hoping it don't make it so.

We were in the Championship at the time, and how do we know as Hecky never gave them a run of games.....

 

[Bladezz]

It's a great point. Hecky has proved to be somewhat of a paradox in that he brought Ndiaye through brilliantly but then seemed to get nowhere with Osula, Jebbison, Coulibally, Regan Slater and Kyron Gordon. How different things would be looking now if two or three of those were in proper first team contention!

Ndiaye was bought under the Wilder Regime. He had a diamond just had to unpack him.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Personally think if we can develope him, find a way to get him minutes and tie him down longer term we should. There's no way you can write him off following the few showings we've had. When he started breaking through into the first team, the overriding consensus on here was 'he needs minutes, there's a player in there'. A prolonged period of illness has only served to strengthen this.

Better to develop a player who is, undoubtedly, a highly talented young athlete, than cash in now for relatively zero money.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Ndiaye was bought under the Wilder Regime. He had a diamond just had to unpack him.

Wilder was unpacking him (training with the 1st tea.)
So h knows what Illiman brings to the team.
He wasn't ready for the 1st team as the cameo at Leicester showed.
The club knew they had a potential diamond, tying him down to a new contract was difficult as his
disappearance showed.
Finally crackd it when the Serb came in the rest is history.
If we can do it ! Hopefully Wilder will be on board with that.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Maybe. But Slater is doing a serviceable enough job for Hull, Coulibally did ok v Spursand Jebbison/Osula haven't disgraced themselves in the PL.... Instead we had healthy doses of Sharp, Fleck and Norwood.... Not saying any would have hit Ndiaye's level, but to have not brought any one through to be at least a 'squad filler' has led us to be wasting money (and taking a gamble) on the likes of Traore, Larouchi and retaining Fleck, Basham, Osborn....

The main disappointment for me is that Brooks wasn’t given more of a go over some of the ones you’ve mentioned.

I just don’t think Coulibaly is any good and Osula/Jebbison have been injured/on strike/suspended when Hecky tried to play them. Slater is another one like Hurst/Law/Whiteman who will go on to have a very solid career in the Championship or lower and we’ll always wonder ‘what if?’.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

The main disappointment for me is that Brooks wasn’t given more of a go over some of the ones you’ve mentioned.

I just don’t think Coulibaly is any good and Osula/Jebbison have been injured/on strike/suspended when Hecky tried to play them. Slater is another one like Hurst/Law/Whiteman who will go on to have a very solid career in the Championship or lower and we’ll always wonder ‘what if?’.

Guess it's a conundrum. On the one hand our success last year could be linked to having a stable, organised, 'experienced' squad, but then again our abject failure this year can also be linked to having a squad of unathletic, undynamic, unfit players....

What otherwise known as the Norwich Syndrome!!

 

[SouthportBlade]

Academy lads will always get a view with Rose tinted specs. Consider the different assessments Traore and Osula get - granted Osula has shown glimpses, but if roles were reversed Osula would get much more of a free pass by being “one of our own” than Traore gets.

We’ve frankly a brilliant track record of having player who go one to have successful careers in the football league, and more than our fair share in footballs elite.

Regan Slater
George Long
Ben Whiteman

Above are a few example of solid players and successful Academy graduates - who weren’t good enough or were just there at the wrong time.

I suspect Harrison Neal and Harry Boyes are the next on this conveyor belt. Now I’d rather see these as squad players that say Coulibaly or Larouci - but no youth player is going to want to be sat on the bench.

However - for every Maguire or Walker there’s a Slew, DDG or Forte

Of the current crop maybe Arblaster is the only one who could be a regular starter soon. And that’s a big could!

Osula has shown glimpses but very raw, same applies to Jebbison & Brooks.

These could end up being the next Elite player, the next serviceable football league player or the next wasted talent who drift out of the game

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Academy lads will always get a view with Rose tinted specs. Consider the different assessments Traore and Osula get - granted Osula has shown glimpses, but if roles were reversed Osula would get much more of a free pass by being “one of our own” than Traore gets.

We’ve frankly a brilliant track record of having player who go one to have successful careers in the football league, and more than our fair share in footballs elite.

Regan Slater
George Long
Ben Whiteman

Above are a few example of solid players and successful Academy graduates - who weren’t good enough or were just there at the wrong time.

I suspect Harrison Neal and Harry Boyes are the next on this conveyor belt. Now I’d rather see these as squad players that say Coulibaly or Larouci - but no youth player is going to want to be sat on the bench.

However - for every Maguire or Walker there’s a Slew, DDG or Forte

Of the current crop maybe Arblaster is the only one who could be a regular starter soon. And that’s a big could!

Osula has shown glimpses but very raw, same applies to Jebbison & Brooks.

These could end up being the next Elite player, the next serviceable football league player or the next wasted talent who drift out of the game

How come CJ Hamilton always/often gets left out of these lists of Shirecliffe Graduates who have gone on to have very solid EFL careers?

 

[Kev Gee]

I think Jebbo is making a mistake if he leaves.
There is going to be a large rebuild needed here at the end of the season. With an exciting opportunity to be part of this. Himself and Osula could be the main strikers at this club next season.

 

[8lade]

Jebbison was just starting to show some quality at the end of last season whatever has happened to him has come at the worst possible time and I agree he needs to stay where he is to get back on track. I was the guy who said he wasn't good enough to start for United in the Prem only for him to score and then be ridiculed on Facebook by about 200 people using the 'that aged well' comment. Hilarious. Seems I was right though.

 

[SouthportBlade]

How come CJ Hamilton always/often gets left out of these lists of Shirecliffe Graduates who have gone on to have very solid EFL careers?

No reason other than my ignorance

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

No reason other than my ignorance

Sorry. Wasn't a go at your post particularly. Just feel CeeeeeJ deserves a bit more bigging up from Blades in general.

 

[Balham]

How come CJ Hamilton always/often gets left out of these lists of Shirecliffe Graduates who have gone on to have very solid EFL careers?

Probably, rightly or wrongly, because he joined at 16 and spent a fair amount of his two years at the Lane out on loan rather than playing age grade football for us. David Brooks also joined at 16 and is conspicuous by his absence on that list.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Probably, rightly or wrongly, because he joined at 16 and spent a fair amount of his two years at the Lane out on loan rather than playing age grade football for us. David Brooks also joined at 16 and is conspicuous by his absence on that list.

Doesn't the same apply to the oft mentioned Ben Whiteman? Who we snaffled after he'd left Manchester United's system?

 

[Balham]

Doesn't the same apply to the oft mentioned Ben Whiteman? Who we snaffled after he'd left Manchester United's system?

Yes. Maybe the difference is that Whiteman played for our first team? No-one mentions the others we brought in from Man U who didn't make it (including Callum Gribbin).