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The Saudi didn't start the same side that got made to look sunday league by Brighton first half, nor has he played Hamer on the wing, nor has he dictated we kick long to Archer, he also hasn't been that unprepared for one of the biggest matches of the season that he starts one up top and five at the back and decides to soak it up. He may be at fault for the resourcing but the execution is absolutely down to the manager.
 
Bladey_blade said:
The Saudi didn't start the same side that got made to look sunday league by Brighton first half, nor has he played Hamer on the wing, nor has he dictated we kick long to Archer, he also hasn't been that unprepared for one of the biggest matches of the season that he starts one up top and five at the back and decides to soak it up. He may be at fault for the resourcing but the execution is absolutely down to the manager.
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After that rational, well thought out critique our current situation, I shall now fully apportion the blame on Paul Heckingbottom as to why we struggle to stay competitive in this league.
 
Bladey_blade said:
The Saudi didn't start the same side that got made to look sunday league by Brighton first half, nor has he played Hamer on the wing, nor has he dictated we kick long to Archer, he also hasn't been that unprepared for one of the biggest matches of the season that he starts one up top and five at the back and decides to soak it up. He may be at fault for the resourcing but the execution is absolutely down to the manager.
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100% correct
 
He’s been dealt a shit hand granted, we all agree, but fuck me have a plan, get us hard to beat, give the players something to believe in, get them to work harder than they ever have or go for every game, losing is a given at this level but pride & respect is earned, unfortunately we have neither
 
Bladey_blade said:
The Saudi didn't start the same side that got made to look sunday league by Brighton first half, nor has he played Hamer on the wing, nor has he dictated we kick long to Archer, he also hasn't been that unprepared for one of the biggest matches of the season that he starts one up top and five at the back and decides to soak it up. He may be at fault for the resourcing but the execution is absolutely down to the manager.
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ekke287 said:
The Saudi threw as much money as he had at Ndiaye so Hecky could build a team around him, and he fucked off anyway.

What should he do, force him to sign?
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How after everything we have seen so far this season that people think it would be a completely different proposition if Ndiaye didn't leave is way beyond me.
 
ekke287 said:
The Saudi threw as much money as he had at Ndiaye so Hecky could build a team around him, and he fucked off anyway.

What should he do, force him to sign?
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He had choices, I’m not having this narrative there was nothing he could have done, he was under contract, we had another year, yes he walked for free, we didn’t even make him wait until we’d found a suitable replacement, he was Hecky’s only chance, once this lad was gone we were beyond doubt fucked, we have been relegated since this moment
 
I’ve got to agree, yes hecky as been given a bad hand. But Jesus wept the long ball pumped aimlessly towards a lone 5ft odd inexperienced striker, constantly is a tactical decision. Our players look scared, and nervous, the games in which we’ve picked up points have included own goals, dubious penalties or red cards. Ain’t good enough. I don’t expect us to survive but, go out fighting. Supporters need to sit back and think, do we want hecky managing this team in the championship without the cheat codes that were Ndiaye and Mcatee.
 
paidsy said:
How after everything we have seen so far this season that people think it would be a completely different proposition if Ndiaye didn't leave is way beyond me.
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Seeing as Ndiaye was the focal point of preseason and we recruited players to fit around him, how can it not be seen that his leaving had an effect on the plan?

I’m not saying it would’ve been different had he stayed, but let’s be realistic, Ndiaye was the plan.
 
By that rationale I presume you started a “thank you Saudi” last season and in 2019 when we got promoted?

Personally I think he’s done “his best” it’s just that in this league he’s a pauper

He approved the biggest contract in our history only for Ndaiye to throw it back at him

We were happy with Hamer, Archer, Souza, Slimane, Traore etc -

The application of those players, their effort and the ‘tactics’ they work to are down to PH

Lovely fella, but he’s like a rabbit in the headlights at this level
 
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After that rational, well thought out critique our current situation, I shall now fully apportion the blame on Paul Heckingbottom as to why we struggle to stay competitive in this league.
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That would be neither rational nor well thought out. The Board, the Management and the players all have to put their hands up and take responsibility.

Very regrettably, there is only one of those three stakeholders that we can change in the short term and, having witnessed todays debacle, I do think ( for the first time) that we now have to change the manager. It was that bad, and has been for weeks if we're honest, despite some papering over the cracks. He's been dealt a bad hand by the Board, but he cannot get a tune out of the players any more.

For the first 5 mins after half time, we had a glimpse of what the players can achieve ( presumably after a bollocking) - still poor in quality, but at least showing some balls and fighting for pride - and then it all disappeared again. The players should hang their heads in shame - they know they can do better than they did. However, the buck stops with Hecky - he's run out of ideas and time. First time I've been convinced about that this season. Gutted, because he's a decent man who knows a lot about football. He just can't light the necessary fire under our current set of underperformers. They've brought him down.
Should it happen, I hope he can get back to developing the youth for us, because he's exceptional at that.
 



HeySethUTB said:
I’ve got to agree, yes hecky as been given a bad hand. But Jesus wept the long ball pumped aimlessly towards a lone 5ft odd inexperienced striker, constantly is a tactical decision. Our players look scared, and nervous, the games in which we’ve picked up points have included own goals, dubious penalties or red cards. Ain’t good enough. I don’t expect us to survive but, go out fighting. Supporters need to sit back and think, do we want hecky managing this team in the championship without the cheat codes that were Ndiaye and Mcatee.
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That’s how I see it.
I like Hecky as a person and want him to do well.
Never looked at the results, more bothered about performances and last year we were rarely convincing, so I’ve had concerns for over a year regards Hecky.

The issue for me is that we always look like the players met each other a week ago. Individually we look OK but there’s no style of play or team structure. The midfield especially is non existent, we just pass it to Norwood who almost always tries the long ball to Archer and 9 times out of 10 we lose possession.

Seems such a basic tactical error pumping long balls in the air to a little striker who doesn’t stand a chance.

Even when we take a kick off Norwood always pumps it straight to their defenders and we instantly lose possession. Why?
 
ekke287 said:
Seeing as Ndiaye was the focal point of preseason and we recruited players to fit around him, how can it not be seen that his leaving had an effect on the plan?

I’m not saying it would’ve been different had he stayed, but let’s be realistic, Ndiaye was the plan.
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Then I would hope a paid football manager would be able to come up with at least something resembling a plan after he left. Successful one or not. We don’t have anything like one.
 
ekke287 said:
Seeing as Ndiaye was the focal point of preseason and we recruited players to fit around him, how can it not be seen that his leaving had an effect on the plan?

I’m not saying it would’ve been different had he stayed, but let’s be realistic, Ndiaye was the plan.
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Did we not recruit most of them after he had gone?
 
And the issue with a long ball taught as a tactic Sheffsteel is when our players panic (often) it’s an easy way out and excuse of a decision in their minds. The amount of times we played long today was a joke, but it’s something we’ve seen all season.

It’s effectively becoming a replacement for the ball carrier that was ndiaye, only it’s predictable.
 
Is he keeping Hecky in place so that when he sells the club the new owner has an easy decision to make about sacking him?
 
Bladey_blade said:
The Saudi didn't start the same side that got made to look sunday league by Brighton first half, nor has he played Hamer on the wing, nor has he dictated we kick long to Archer, he also hasn't been that unprepared for one of the biggest matches of the season that he starts one up top and five at the back and decides to soak it up. He may be at fault for the resourcing but the execution is absolutely down to the manager.
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How would you improve on “execution” with a squad that is clearly miles short of the quality needed to compete in the PL? If Mercedes put a Reliant Robin on the F1 grid, would Hamilton be responsible for failing to win in it?
 
Bladey_blade said:
The Saudi didn't start the same side that got made to look sunday league by Brighton first half, nor has he played Hamer on the wing, nor has he dictated we kick long to Archer, he also hasn't been that unprepared for one of the biggest matches of the season that he starts one up top and five at the back and decides to soak it up. He may be at fault for the resourcing but the execution is absolutely down to the manager.
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I agree but he still needs to fuck off
 
yes it is a baffling tactic to hoof it to a 5.8 striker but our problem lies firmly in midfield we havent got one premier league quality midfielder at the club norwood and souza should be nowhere near automatic choices and thats down to a lack of investment in the team by abdullah i just wonder if the plan all along was to get wilder back 🤔
 
We would lose heavily to Wrexham this season. Fingers crossed we don’t draw them in the FACup!
 
last season we thought Anel would shine in the PL as Illiman would.

One has so far shown this might not be the case.

As we have found out, beating three men in the championship is considerably easier than in the PL.
 



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