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Shakespeare blade said:
He’s been dealt a shit hand granted, we all agree, but fuck me have a plan, get us hard to beat, give the players something to believe in, get them to work harder than they ever have or go for every game, losing is a given at this level but pride & respect is earned, unfortunately we have neither
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They can’t work hard because they aren’t fit or strong enough to do so. Bigger boys just knock them aside like weak children.
 



ancientblade said:
yes it is a baffling tactic to hoof it to a 5.8 striker but our problem lies firmly in midfield we havent got one premier league quality midfielder at the club norwood and souza should be nowhere near automatic choices and thats down to a lack of investment in the team by abdullah i just wonder if the plan all along was to get wilder back 🤔
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We spent £25m on midfield adding Hamer Souza McAtee Slimane Davies to Norwood Coulibaly Fleck Osborn that's NINE midfielders and we can't perm 3 that together actually function.
Proof positive that Hecky knows the square root of fuck all about how to progress up a football field other than booting to a short lone striker - what a totally incompetent manager.
 
ekke287 said:
Seeing as Ndiaye was the focal point of preseason and we recruited players to fit around him, how can it not be seen that his leaving had an effect on the plan?

I’m not saying it would’ve been different had he stayed, but let’s be realistic, Ndiaye was the plan.
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Which players did we recruit to play around him ?
The ones that can’t get in the team ?
 
Keen Blade said:
We spent £25m on midfield adding Hamer Souza McAtee Slimane Davies to Norwood Coulibaly Fleck Osborn that's NINE midfielders and we can't perm 3 that together actually function.
Proof positive that Hecky knows the square root of fuck all about how to progress up a football field other than booting to a short lone striker - what a totally incompetent manager.
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Ahh that because they were all bought to play around illie -
 
steve26272 said:
By that rationale I presume you started a “thank you Saudi” last season and in 2019 when we got promoted?

Personally I think he’s done “his best” it’s just that in this league he’s a pauper

He approved the biggest contract in our history only for Ndaiye to throw it back at him

We were happy with Hamer, Archer, Souza, Slimane, Traore etc -

The application of those players, their effort and the ‘tactics’ they work to are down to PH

Lovely fella, but he’s like a rabbit in the headlights at this level
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You blame it all on Hecki
He has been delt a dough hand we can all see that .
The squad just can't compete at this level,we are short in every department with athletes
pace power and not least of all quality missing. .Blame Hecki for all that if you like but realistically we have no chance,all the players you name had not set foot in the premiership and it's been proven now! we are well short..
Yes Hecki makes some strange calls regarding team selection! yesterday one case in question picking the same starting 11 was asking for trouble(and we got it)a team that was mauled by Brighton given the nod just because we salvaged a point against 10 men strange decision that with Mcbernie& Anel back in the squad.Big call by Hecki and it proved the wrong one,even if both couldn't complete the match having them starting would have made a big difference especially Mcbernies presence in both boxes.
A rabbit in the headlights he maybe! I think Wilder in the end was the same and lost all sense of reason culminating him leaving by the back door (something he said he wouldnt do )
Where does all this leave us just bringing kids in to get mauled is not the way,
change managers may give us a bounce! we know we just haven't the players to lift our game consistently.
accept our fate ! We know where we will be next season
I'm not a negative person just can't mistake weve gone ! Love to be proved wrong I just know like most of us we just haven't got the players whether that be recruitment or whatever.
 
ATL Recs said:
Ahh that because they were all bought to play around illie -
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Are you saying Illy wasn’t part of our strategy this season then yeah?

My point is there’s nothing HRH could’ve done to keep him, bar letting him leave for free. Losing him derailed us going into the season, and that’s not on the Prince.
 
finlaytheblade said:
You blame it all on Hecki
He has been delt a dough hand we can all see that .
The squad just can't compete at this level,we are short in every department with athletes
pace power and not least of all quality missing. .Blame Hecki for all that if you like but realistically we have no chance,all the players you name had not set foot in the premiership and it's been proven now! we are well short..
Yes Hecki makes some strange calls regarding team selection! yesterday one case in question picking the same starting 11 was asking for trouble(and we got it)a team that was mauled by Brighton given the nod just because we salvaged a point against 10 men strange decision that with Mcbernie& Anel back in the squad.Big call by Hecki and it proved the wrong one,even if both couldn't complete the match having them starting would have made a big difference especially Mcbernies presence in both boxes.
A rabbit in the headlights he maybe! I think Wilder in the end was the same and lost all sense of reason culminating him leaving by the back door (something he said he wouldnt do )
Where does all this leave us just bringing kids in to get mauled is not the way,
change managers may give us a bounce! we know we just haven't the players to lift our game consistently.
accept our fate ! We know where we will be next season
I'm not a negative person just can't mistake weve gone ! Love to be proved wrong I just know like most of us we just haven't got the players whether that be recruitment or whatever.
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No, not all on him

The opening thread made it all about “the Saudi”, I was playing the quote

Bournemouth losses 21-22 season were £55m, that’s what they overspent which their billionaire owner covered

Prince can’t do that, not his fault, not ours

His only wrongdoing in this is whether he’s overpricing the club, and therefore holding us back, but without knowing how much it stands him we can’t answer that

Luton came from 1 down to win yesterday , by my reckoning only Chong (5) and a previously unemployed Barkley had EPL experience

If you look back to Man City, Spurs games, we’re actually regressing as a team, that’s not on Princey
Sticking with Norwood and Souza - not starting McB when he’s fit enough to play - not having a plan B & C = not on Prince

All the above are at Heckys door
 



we had a very slim chance of survival this season.
the budget made that practically zero ,hecky has shown he can hold together a group of players in these circumstances and keep morale high but hes been totally fucked over by the owner this season who expected him to do it again bit this time on fire
the budget is pathetic ,people can cite luton all they eant but they havent had to completely rebuild a side ,an identity ,a playing style stripped of several key assets
they are more like us under wilder and the club will only go from strength to strength even if they do go down as for us i think this is just the start of some dark dark times for us as its concievable we start next season as amateurish as this one with less money and a skeketon squad
 
None of us know what is going on behind closed doors but my take is that the prince has just written the season off.

He doesn't care that we are getting regularly battered in the full glare of the media. He has accepted it is a relegation season and is not pumping money in.

The sale of the club is no longer as urgent as it was for him, we have the premier League money to keep everything ticking over for the next two and a half seasons. If players are out of contract next summer he isn't bothered, reduces the wage bill for the championship campaigns.

From the outside looking in it seems he came close to real financial trouble last year and he isn't willing to gamble again.

In my opinion there is absolutely no chance he sacks Hecky, it will cost money to pay him off and then whomever comes in costs more money. The prince is simply not interested in spending and doesn't care that we are sat in the cold watching it. Dangerous times for the future of the club in my opinion, I don't see us as being particularly strong next year if things pan out like it is looking they will.

Really need a decent buyer to come out of nowhere but it seems the prince wants his cake and eat it too by pricing the club in a way that he not only gets all his money back but also walks away with a nice juicy profit. This is the most concerned I have been since the L2 days.

Only silver lining is that at least it's not being run like another local basket case of a club.
 
Our starting XI is considerably worse than last season. The Prince decided to cash in our best players and didn't leave the manager with any time to source quality replacements. Instead we made 2 or 3 panic signings on the eve of the season - we still needed 3 or 4 more and everyone knew it at the time. Sheer fucking incompetence on every level.
 
My worry and probably everyone else’s worry is we’re obviously going to get relegated this year, but the whole “bounce back next year” just won’t happen. Too many players out of contract, too old/past it, and the new signings don’t even look championship quality apart from Hamer (last seasons Coventry Hamer, not this season). I said it a few months ago but my worry is we’re gunna slip down to league 1 again. The clubs just on the cusp of imploding imo and the only thing to stop this rot would be a new owner which looks like we’re nowhere near getting.

Part of me feels for Hecky, I like him as a person but he’s not tactically intelligent enough to implement a style of play. I know for a fact he thought Ndiaye was staying but the Prince was still negotiating with Marseille behind his back. BUT, like last season we looked lost when Ndiaye wasn’t available and that is down the manager, you can’t rely on one player you’ve got to have a style and you can see the players don’t have a fucking clue. You could see in pre season that we looked woeful (even though some said pre season doesn’t matter) but we have no professionalism from the top of the club to the players. It’s all run horrendously, we look like a league 2 club off and on the pitch. It’s embarrassing as a fan and the only thing I and everyone wants is to be proud of us as a club.

Also a bit off topic, football (especially the premier league) is so far away from what it used to be it’s putting me off personally (nothing to do with United) Var, top 6 media love in, the state backed clubs, and the money that gets thrown about is just shocking really. The fact you can’t really be sustainable in the championship is frightening. Can’t even imagine what the next 10/20 years is gunna look like.
 
Edinblade said:
Our owner has supported the team in the best way he can and a lot better than our previous owner.
The manager is to blame for us being worse than Luton.
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See it's clear from this post you brought into the Prince v McCabe story when the reality focus should be is the owner good enough.

It's on the owner.
 
Proper Blade said:
Our starting XI is considerably worse than last season. The Prince decided to cash in our best players and didn't leave the manager with any time to source quality replacements. Instead we made 2 or 3 panic signings on the eve of the season - we still needed 3 or 4 more and everyone knew it at the time. Sheer fucking incompetence on every level.
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we needed to spend 60m minimum to have any chance of staying up we spent half that amount even guardiola wouldnt keep us in the premier league with those stats
 
ancientblade said:
we needed to spend 60m minimum to have any chance of staying up we spent half that amount even guardiola wouldnt keep us in the premier league with those stat
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No, but we might look like a competent football team. I can accept us going down. I can't accept us going down with the total lack of fight, direction and heart we showed yesterday. Since the Prince isn't going to sack himself, Hecky needs to go.
 
Bladesthorpe said:
Why ever not, best team to visit the Lane this season . They have financial backing, a good manager and some excellent players.
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I see them as another Bolton and Stoke, had a few excellent seasons in the PL until financial problems hit them. The financial backing won't last for more than a a few seasons
 
Bladey_blade said:
The Saudi didn't start the same side that got made to look sunday league by Brighton first half, nor has he played Hamer on the wing, nor has he dictated we kick long to Archer, he also hasn't been that unprepared for one of the biggest matches of the season that he starts one up top and five at the back and decides to soak it up. He may be at fault for the resourcing but the execution is absolutely down to the manager.
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Yeah, but the Saudi’s patsy did.
 
Netsix_and_chill said:
None of us know what is going on behind closed doors but my take is that the prince has just written the season off.

He doesn't care that we are getting regularly battered in the full glare of the media. He has accepted it is a relegation season and is not pumping money in.

The sale of the club is no longer as urgent as it was for him, we have the premier League money to keep everything ticking over for the next two and a half seasons. If players are out of contract next summer he isn't bothered, reduces the wage bill for the championship campaigns.

From the outside looking in it seems he came close to real financial trouble last year and he isn't willing to gamble again.

In my opinion there is absolutely no chance he sacks Hecky, it will cost money to pay him off and then whomever comes in costs more money. The prince is simply not interested in spending and doesn't care that we are sat in the cold watching it. Dangerous times for the future of the club in my opinion, I don't see us as being particularly strong next year if things pan out like it is looking they will.

Really need a decent buyer to come out of nowhere but it seems the prince wants his cake and eat it too by pricing the club in a way that he not only gets all his money back but also walks away with a nice juicy profit. This is the most concerned I have been since the L2 days.

Only silver lining is that at least it's not being run like another local basket case of a club.
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Thanks for taking the effort to type all that out, means I don't have to! Exactly as I see it 👍
 
Berkshire Blade said:
Best owner ever some said.

If he sold up tomorrow the one thing he's built at the club is a solitary training pitch when we've had around 400 million of TV money and has built a completely shite squad with the contracts running down too.
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I hate him
 
Keen Blade said:
We spent £25m on midfield adding Hamer Souza McAtee Slimane Davies to Norwood Coulibaly Fleck Osborn that's NINE midfielders and we can't perm 3 that together actually function.
Proof positive that Hecky knows the square root of fuck all about how to progress up a football field other than booting to a short lone striker - what a totally incompetent manager.
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Sadly that about sums it up for me
 



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