Cheerio Hecky

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Fitness & Conditioning are Hecky & his Staff’s responsibility. No where for him to hide on this. Our injury list is not down to bad luck I’m afraid!
Totally agree and the commentator saying about "what he's got to work with" it's like me breaking the computers at work and producing shitty handwritten reports and saying well I don't have a computer so what do you expect
 
We need both a new manager and a new owner. We can't force someone to buy us, but we can make a decision on getting rid of an employee who is fundamentally underachieving this season. So he's got to go now.

I'll give him credit for helping to settle things down after Slav went and for getting us up. Credit where it's due. But this season it's been woeful and that is taking into consideration the shitty hand he's been dealt with. It's just not good enough. No other PL club would allow their manager to lose 9 out of 10 games, lose 8 fucking 0 at home, and still be in a job.
 
The first 10 or so games of the 20/21 were awful and demoralising, but you had the sense that we were hard done by or did okay in some games. This season we genuinely look like bottom of the league, history making, shite. Why is there no fight at all? We got back in the game and going in at half time you’d think let’s go for it after doing relatively well for 30 or so minutes… finally, a bit of momentum. But no. Piss weak mentality is this bunch. It’s going to end far, far worse than last time.
 
Maybe it’s Heckys fault

You think...? Some on here would defend him til the cows come home though.

I'm sure they would be just as supportive if someone constantly fucked up in their job to make their daily life shit in any other walk of life. Amazon delivery man keeps chucking their parcels over their front garden wall...ah never mind, he's our delivery man and he's just been given a bad hand ... No one could do it better than this guy....
 
Pep wouldn.t turn this into anything better.

It's totally wrong to say a manager has no effect on tactics, effort, organisation, confidence etc.
Remember how poor the team was under Nigel Adkins, then Wilder comes in and instantly our players all pass to each other, no long boot up field.
After a few games, the players are playing set pieces from the training ground with little triangles. Confidence on the ball quickly grows.

Going back further remember how we played under Dave Bassett, it was quite similar to Neil Warnock, quick direct ball stuff.
Then Howard Kendall takes over and like some miracle all of our sudden our players are so composed in possession making short passes to feet.

Accept that Hecky has a difficult job and hasn't had the best opportunity to plan, due to the last minute departures of N'Diaye and Berge.

However think about all the things a manager can influence and Hecky has been poor in most them.
Even though we were promoted last season, there was plenty of signs for concern last season too.

In most games last season, we played some nice passing football for 10 minute but also in the same match for 15 minutes we couldn't string 3 passes together. When we were leading we often ended the last 20 minutes of every match dropping deeper and deeper
and when anybody got the ball, we either booted it out in to row Z or booted it up field straight back to the opposition.
In post match interviews no mention of how we were poor at managing out games and also no practice how to keep composure and retain possession.
Hecky's tactics seemed to be.....defend in numbers and let's hope N'Daiye (and possible McAfee) come up with some magic to create or score.
 

I don’t think we can underestimate the loss of McBurnie

Strangely some do though.

If you, and others, believe that our #9 is imperative to anything positive that we might, just might, salvage from this basket case of a campaign thus far, then let’s cross our collective fingers that I am, have been, and will continue to be wrong !
 
Untill we sell the club ( which won't happen this season) nothing will change so whats the point in changing the manager?

Agree....however there is an alternative and that is to persuade someone to accept a contract until the end of the season.
Also that man would need to work with McCall and Lester. Obviously it's very unlikely anyone would work in those conditions.

However Wilder's stock has decreased and he'll never get an offer of a PL job anytime soon.
So he might just accept a low paid short term contract....obviously the Prince would offer a massive bonus if he keeps us up.

The idea would be when we acquire new owners. The situation would be more attractive as they could start afresh and bring in their own man.

I've mentioned it before, with Hecky we're 100% relegated and will finish on about 15 points.
With Wilder I'd say we're 80% relegated but will play with much more effort, desire to win and will finish on low 30's points
which probably won't be enough but at least we'll give it a go and go down fighting the Blades way.
 
I’ve been pretty critical of Hecky for the last three games, but this one genuinely made me think, what can he, or anyone for that matter, do with this team?

There’s no way he’s told the team, whatever you do, try and give the ball away as quick as you can. Is it on Hecky that they can’t pass?

This lot just aren’t good enough for the Prem. Players like Traore and Souza would never be playing at this level if we weren’t forced to deal with the financial limitations we have. Quite frankly, I’m not even sure if they’ll be good in the Championship.

Norwood is a legend, but he’s not nearly good enough at this point. Robinson probably couldn’t get in any other Prem side and I think he’s our best defender.

For me, this team is considerably worse than last seasons.
 
I keep reading about how well he did last season. He took a team with the 4th biggest budget up from a league where 3 teams get promoted. So he out performed his budget just.
And not to mention majority if the games we played wasn't pretty football. We ground out results and if it wasn't for illiman I doubt we would have got promotion. Even in championship he didn't have a plan b.
 
Honestly, what happened at half time? It was like a team talk was given to the effect of - “let’s just try and hang onto a point” - something we have seen repeated over the season.

We came out a different side, sat back and invited them on which we cannot afford to do in this division given how fragile our defence has been all season.
Brewster’s shot aside, we never troubled their keeper that second half.

Man U were poor and yet again rather than carry on our first half performance and fight for the game like it was ‘our cup final’ we shrunk away with the inevitable result.

People saying PH isn’t to blame for this season, have a word with yourselves. He is not blameless by a long shot.
He will have had sign off on the players brought in, he is responsible for the coaching (important since we have forgotten how to actually defend at all this season), he has responsibilities over player conditioning and fitness which has been very absent and it shows. He is failing in every aspect this season.

His subs are baffling (this has always been the case not just this season), his tactics and how we set up and (fail to..) adapt to emerging challenges in a game are just as confusing.
He has his Plan A that he doggedly sticks to, but he certainly doesn’t have a Plan B and doesn’t know how to respond to when the oppo change things up themselves.

I have no idea who we’d replace him with, however given the fact the bloke that owns us doesn’t have a pot to piss in, it wouldn't surprise me if it was some cheap random no mark from the failing “United World” bollocks.
 
Yes I actually think that. We play percentage football. We play a formation that isn’t conducive to balls into feet. We panic and hit balls in a team mates general direction. And we hoof

We were exactly the same last year too.
What I found weird was, at time we did play to feet in spells with some nice passing and we looked a top 2 team.
However when defending a lead or under pressure every player seemed to lose any semblance of composure.
We'd drop deeper and deeper and when any player had the ball at their feet they'd boot it into row Z or upfield straight back to their defenders.

We usually ended up holding out for the narrow win but here's me thinking surely Hecky will criticise this in the post match interview
but he never did. Here's me thinkings surely the players will be coached to stay composes and keep possession under pressure
but this never happened, we repeated the same panic hoofball football next match and the one following.

Opposition fans would rightly comment they have no idea how we can be 2nd in the league because, apart from N'Diaye and Berge we look so average.
 
I’ve been pretty critical of Hecky for the last three games, but this one genuinely made me think, what can he, or anyone for that matter, do with this team?

There’s no way he’s told the team, whatever you do, try and give the ball away as quick as you can. Is it on Hecky that they can’t pass?

This lot just aren’t good enough for the Prem. Players like Traore and Souza would never be playing at this level if we weren’t forced to deal with the financial limitations we have. Quite frankly, I’m not even sure if they’ll be good in the Championship.

Norwood is a legend, but he’s not nearly good enough at this point. Robinson probably couldn’t get in any other Prem side and I think he’s our best defender.

For me, this team is considerably worse than last seasons.

Respectfully disagree, of course these players can pass, they did under Wilder.
Hamer had great composure on the ball at Coventry, Archer was comfortable on the ball at Boro.

It's the instructions, they aren't being coached to stay calm and make short passes to feet, it was the same last season in the Championship
so keeping possession isn't something that's worked on in training. Think to be honest Hecky saw how Slav's possession game wasn't working
so he changed the style to being more direct with long passing from Norwood. In fairness it wasn't pretty but the pragmatic approach worked.

They might not be good enough for the PL but they are all supposedly top end Championship players, where players are comfortable on the ball.
When we get a new manager....you'll see the players are more confident and suddenly look much better players.
 
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No other PL club would allow their manager to lose 9 out of 10 games, lose 8 fucking 0 at home, and still be in a job.

Exactly what Leeds United said about Bielsa.

One season later.
4 new management teams. ( £10/12 million ?)
One relegation.

Worked wonders for them, and they had a far more expensive squad than we have.
 
I keep reading about how well he did last season. He took a team with the 4th biggest budget up from a league where 3 teams get promoted. So he out performed his budget just.

Yeah it was such a shit season eh?
 

we were reliant on ndiaye at times last season, not saying we didn’t play some nice stuff but our squad was stronger last season than it is now
 

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