Pellistri

[Bladey_blade]

Oh, so we don't need goals or assists. We'll be fine without them. Thanks for clearing that up.

Imagine how boring football would be if it was played on a stats sheet

 

[SufcBilly]

Btw everyone going on saying “what about McAtee”

1. We have zero control over what city decide with him
2. He’d be the left sided player so Pellestri deal is irrelevant in him possibly signing
3. Let’s all calm down

 

[Revolution]

Nothing suggested McAtee or Ndiaye could create or score till they did

Yes. You're right.

I'll say it again: we have enough unknown quantities as it is. He might be good. We need a surer thing than that with the squad we've got IMHO.

 

[Revolution]

Imagine how boring football would be if it was played on a stats sheet

Probably about as boring as watching a team that loses 1-0 every week because it didn't sign players who can score or create.

Did you hibernate during 2020-21?

 

[SufcBilly]

Yes. You're right.

I'll say it again: we have enough unknown quantities as it is. He might be good. We need a surer thing than that with the squad we've got IMHO.

Find one

 

[Revolution]

Find one

What a silly response. It's not up to me.

If the club cannot produce a better loan signing than someone with no offensive output in 2 seasons we really will be in trouble.

 

[LurkerBlade]

I have banged on about this lad getting more minutes at Man U to my mate (a Man U) fan for over a year.

Not sure if he can play a McAtee or Ndaiye role as he does look like a winger, but if he can convert to playing more central he would be a great addition.

If he can't play central, then it would be a barrier for Traore getting minutes and that would be disappointing.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Btw everyone going on saying “what about McAtee”

1. We have zero control over what city decide with him
2. He’d be the left sided player so Pellestri deal is irrelevant in him possibly signing
3. Let’s all calm down

I'm not sure if you're referring to me but my post was addressing the "Pellistri or McAtee" debate which a few had weighed in on.

If we can get both, fine. I'd be intrigued to see what moving to a front 3 would look like for us in the PL.
I just can't see any evidence which would support Pellistri over McAtee if it is one or the other.

We don't seem to be able to afford a CF on a permanent transfer so signing Pellistri and McAtee would push us into the overseas markets.
Again, maybe that's not a problem and we have everything mapped out but going on the window so far, I just have reservations with assuming that.

 

[SufcBilly]

What a silly response. It's not up to me.

If the club cannot produce a better loan signing than someone with no offensive output in 2 seasons we really will be in trouble.

You do realise loan deals require 3 yes votes, not just sign whoever the club wants? I’m sure they want Mbappe on loan but 2 of the votes are gonna be no

 

[SufcBilly]

He’ll play that right attacking mid role Berge took up when he went forward last year. Drive to the byline and flash it across

 

[CaptainMorgans]

He’ll play that right attacking mid role Berge took up when he went forward last year. Drive to the byline and flash it across

Where does that leave Hamer?

 

[designedbyross]

Tbf I reckon plan A was originally to try get Diallo but with him getting injured we're looking at Pellistri instead. I also can see us moving to try to play with wingers / wide forwards if we have one for either side in a 541 / 523, to be less reliant on our wingbacks going forward in the prem. The issue there though is nailing that lone ST role, Antonio for West Ham does it brilliantly.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Tbf I reckon plan A was originally to try get Diallo but with him getting injured we're looking at Pellistri instead. I also can see us moving to try to play with wingers / wide forwards if we have one for either side in a 541 / 523, to be less reliant on our wingbacks going forward in the prem. The issue there though is nailing that lone ST role, Antonio for West Ham does it brilliantly.

Antonio would be great, but he's still starting and scoring for West Ham.
Had that Saudi money dangled in front of him recently too.

 

[designedbyross]

Antonio would be great, but he's still starting and scoring for West Ham.
Had that Saudi money dangled in front of him recently too.

Oh I didn't mean we try to sign Antonio, not much chance of that happening but someone of his style would be required

 

[Pedro Verde]

1170 minutes over 2 seasons., 32 games.

1170 ~ 90 = 13 full games

 

[Champagneblade]

Find one

Mama Balde.

Scored 12 in 32 last year plus a handful of assists.

Can play either wing and also up front.

Out of the two, I’d take him.

Pellistri has played the equivalent of 24 full matches in the past 3 seasons plus 2 games this season. He has one goal against Accrington and an assist vs Charlton to show for his efforts, both in minor cup competitions.

Maybe he’s a World Beater and I would concur that all players have to start somewhere but there is a bit of the Diego’s about this one.

If his name was Fred Potts and he had those stats, folk would be massively underwhelmed.

Just hoping we aren’t about to waste a signing.

 

[SUFCinks]

Imagine how boring football would be if it was played on a stats sheet

I don’t think you can fully rely on stats but brighton/brentford will both vouch for it as a key reason for their success. Neither are boring teams. You simply can’t ignore the benefit of utilising them and the information they can teach you.

 

[St Annington]

Danny Bergara was the assistant manager under Harry Haslam and Billy McEwan. He was caretaker manager for 2 matches in January 1988. Won both matches, a 100% record. A legend at Stockport County.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Uruguay-Bergara-Footballing-Journey/dp/B08KFYXMB6 This is a good read

 

[Lucky1979]

I have banged on about this lad getting more minutes at Man U to my mate (a Man U) fan for over a year.

Not sure if he can play a McAtee or Ndaiye role as he does look like a winger, but if he can convert to playing more central he would be a great addition.

If he can't play central, then it would be a barrier for Traore getting minutes and that would be disappointing.

The main thing people are overlooking is do Man Utd want him “converting” in to a central player or do they want him to play in a side to build experience as a winger or wide forward.

Pointless in talking about “converting” him to a 10 if that’s not what Man Utd want for his development

We definitely need to be bringing in someone to start though and not just sit on the bench. We have enough 20 year olds at the club already that can do that.

 

[Sithblade]

They previously did a "so who is he" report on Tom Davies the day we signed him, but the one before was Archer so not a definite.

 

[Westran]

They also previously did a 'who is he' on Cameron Archer... And Hamer

 

[SufcBilly]

Mama Balde.

Scored 12 in 32 last year plus a handful of assists.

Can play either wing and also up front.

Out of the two, I’d take him.

Pellistri has played the equivalent of 24 full matches in the past 3 seasons plus 2 games this season. He has one goal against Accrington and an assist vs Charlton to show for his efforts, both in minor cup competitions.

Maybe he’s a World Beater and I would concur that all players have to start somewhere but there is a bit of the Diego’s about this one.

If his name was Fred Potts and he had those stats, folk would be massively underwhelmed.

Just hoping we aren’t about to waste a signing.

Balde is a foreign Akpom and you cannot convince me otherwise. A 27 year old who for the first time in his career scored double digit league goals last season

 

[JS Blade]

Pellistri looks a phenomenal player - fancy him to do well but we have got to accommodate him if make the move

 

[Torrix1889]

Where does that leave Hamer?

Could mean a return to a better 5-3-2, with Pelistri, Souza and Hamer behind 2 strikers........although I think we will be playing a 5-4-1 0r a 5-3-1-1 more often this season so Pelistri could play the Ndaiye role behind a single striker, (which Archer would suit) and bring in an extra midfielder, (Slimane or Norwood)....either way Hamer is in to stay.

Wes

Anel Egan Trusty

George Larouci

Souza Norwood Hamer

Pelistri

Archer

 

[Bladey_blade]

Balde is a foreign Akpom and you cannot convince me otherwise. A 27 year old who for the first time in his career scored double digit league goals last season

You'd have a point if Akpom had played half his career at right full back

 

[Latters]

You'd have a point if Akpom had played half his career at right full back

Full back turned forward? By Christ, he’s the new Matt Done

 

[Aston max]

Could mean a return to a better 5-3-2, with Pelistri, Souza and Hamer behind 2 strikers........although I think we will be playing a 5-4-1 0r a 5-3-1-1 more often this season so Pelistri could play the Ndaiye role behind a single striker, (which Archer would suit) and bring in an extra midfielder, (Slimane or Norwood)....either way Hamer is in to stay.

Wes

Anel Egan Trusty

George Larouci

Souza Norwood Hamer

Pelistri

Archer

You Had to spoil it with Norwood !!!!!

 

[Torrix1889]

You Had to spoil it with Norwood !!!!!

True......Put Souza in there and add Slimane

 

[Champagneblade]

Balde is a foreign Akpom and you cannot convince me otherwise. A 27 year old who for the first time in his career scored double digit league goals last season

I won't try then

As per below, he has evolved into the position he played last season.

 

[The Crab]

Michael Twiss has just slammed his empty pint glass down.

John Cofie has spilt his coffee…..