CONFIRMED Cameron Archer signs for the Blades - 4 year contract

[Boxer Blade]

I presume United have been in discussions with villa for a couple of weeks? I would have thought one of the first things that get mentioned is how much? It's hard to believe this figure has just come out

 

[Bell4]

Easy this, go back with 12, they say 16, go back 14 and shake hands. Seen it on Dickinsons’ Real Deal.

Don't you be late

 

[ThatJa]

Usually first discussion is expressing an interest.

 

[Captain Obvious]

We’re moaning over £18m for Archer?! SMH. Anything under £20m would be good business, he looked a level above the Championship last season and makes us undeniably stronger.

 

[Brownieblade]

That's that then. Let's move on to target number 37

Can’t we wait until target no 35 works his notice at Greggs before we try for 37?

 

[alcoblade]

We’re moaning over £18m for Archer?! SMH. Anything under £20m would be good business, he looked a level above the Championship last season and makes us undeniably stronger.

Good business, and having that money to spend are tow different things.

 

[riselikeasalmon]

Yes! Hoping for a breakthrough soon. Player happy with what we are offering so we just need to finalise the fee with Villa.

Am I being naive in wondering how we can agree with the player but be miles away with villa on the fee?

Is it wrong that Villa have to give us permission to speak to him, or have they done that even though fee isn’t agreed?

 

[FTPE]

We'll dick about and lose him.
He's replacing Ndiaye don't forget.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Good business, and having that money to spend are tow different things.

If we don’t have that money, we should be asking why. We’ve sold 2 players for around £30m this summer and had a cash injection for getting promoted.

 

[Rocket Man]

Am I being naive in wondering how we can agree with the player but be miles away with villa on the fee?

Is it wrong that Villa have to give us permission to speak to him, or have they done that even though fee isn’t agreed?

Personal terms agreed more or less.

It goes;

- Confirm with club you'd like to open negotiations with player

- Contact agent of player

- Confirm with player hr would join you if you were to bid and confirm on ballpark salary.

- Bid with club

- When bid with club accepted finalise salary offer / bonuses

 

[CoatesyBlade]

Sheffield United doing transfer deals reminds me of that lad that represented his country for the first time at swimming in the Olympics and had never seen a pool before and took forever to finish the race.

Eddie the eel!

 

[More Bladier than thou]

We tryed to loan Archer.To keep funds free for other signings, Villa rejected it, we have gone in with 1st bid of £10 million, villa have rejected it, dont know exactly how much Luton have bid but so far they are in the running and we are likely to have a bidding war with Luton. Obviously villa will accept the highest bid and Archer would need to actually want to sign for Luton, so far he hasnt said anything on his preferred choice. This could well drag on another week or so.

 

[Rodley]

Why not £18m? Genuine question. He’s young English has a good goal record in the champ & scoring for England youth teams. We paid £20m for McBurnie, £23m for Brewster, £20m Maupay to Brighton after his season at Brentford.

That’s about the value top championship strikers go for that are in form. I don’t think its ridiculously unreasonable

Any young player based in England who has performed in the league below to his level, played internationally at U21s etc and is contracted to PL team will be c. £20m.

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

I think this one will be done by Friday. It's the last buy of the window, Hecky wants him, Archer wants it, Villa want fair compensation. Get it over the line, get the two loans by next Friday and viola!!

 

[Blade58]

My guy is telling me villa want £18m

Oh dear!

Next

PS: Who is next? Can’t think of anyone?

 

[S40BLADE]

We NEED a striker NOW. We cant afford to fuck around. For the sake of this season as well as a future rebuild we need a player like him in.

 

[SufcBilly]

We NEED a striker NOW. We cant afford to fuck around. For the sake of this season as well as a future rebuild we need a player like him in.

A striker is irrelevant if we create zero chances for said striker

 

[Rocket Man]

We tryed to loan Archer.To keep funds free for other signings, Villa rejected it, we have gone in with 1st bid of £10 million, villa have rejected it, dont know exactly how much Luton have bid but so far they are in the running and we are likely to have a bidding war with Luton. Obviously villa will accept the highest bid and Archer would need to actually want to sign for Luton, so far he hasnt said anything on his preferred choice. This could well drag on another week or so.

We are the only club that had made a bid so far. Not sure why the 10m fee has been leaked and if it is true. But we are pushing hard on this. Wouldn't expect it to take nowhere near as long as next week. Should be next couple of days. We are at advanced stages of bidding now. It will either happen or not happen but this won't drag.

 

[Boothy762]

Eddie the eel!

You've got them mixed up pal. It was Eric the Eel. Eddie the Eagle was the ski jumper.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Good player archer but wouldn’t pay 18m for him personally

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Agree.
£10m seems a daft offer for a young player of his level.
If they're wanting £18m then I can't see us closing that gap.

They want £18m just like we want to pay £10m.
It's not about where it starts.

 

[NateDogg]

If we don’t have that money, we should be asking why. We’ve sold 2 players for around £30m this summer and had a cash injection for getting promoted.

No shit captain obvious.

 

[Green7361]

I'd start at £10m and chuck a crate of Hendo's in, free chip butties when we play them at home and a night in the hotel sometime in the next 20 years... How can they refuse that offer

 

[St Annington]

Personal terms agreed more or less.

It goes;

- Confirm with club you'd like to open negotiations with player

- Contact agent of player

- Confirm with player hr would join you if you were to bid and confirm on ballpark salary.

- Bid with club

- When bid with club accepted finalise salary offer / bonuses

Not always as simple as that https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66439672

Find the power​

One of the reasons a transfer deal can drag across a whole summer is the number of parties involved.

It may be presented as a simple transaction, but aligning different elements is key; get one wrong and even an apparently done deal can disintegrate.

"What we are talking about is three sets of negotiations: club to club, the player transaction and the agent transaction," reveals Law.

"They are usually prioritised in that order, but sometimes they aren't.

"Sometimes it is the agent you need to get right, sometimes it is a player conversation that you need to get right."

Finding the "power behind the throne", as Hughes describes it, can be a complex business. Kylian Mbappe's inner circle has been subject to intense scrutiny as the France striker looks to force an exit from Paris St-Germain.

His agent and mother Fayza Lamari, his lawyer Delphine Verheyden, PSG's Football Advisor Luis Campos and representatives Christophe Henrotay and Kia Joorabchian - who have previously been instrumental in deals involving Real Madrid - have all been cited as potentially key figures in unlocking a move to the Bernabeu.

Money is the fix-all grease for any cog in a deal, but occasionally less-wealthy clubs can find other trump cards to play.

 

[Blade58]

A striker is irrelevant if we create zero chances for said striker

With Souza, Slimane, Davies and Hamer in the middle of the park, I would like to think that what you say changes from now on?

 

[Mojo]

Why not £18m? Genuine question. He’s young English has a good goal record in the champ & scoring for England youth teams. We paid £20m for McBurnie, £23m for Brewster, £20m Maupay to Brighton after his season at Brentford.

That’s about the value top championship strikers go for that are in form. I don’t think its ridiculously unreasonable

It's not, but it's also thinking like this that got us Brewster for 23 million

 

[LondonBlade89]

As much as I want us to be able to sign him, I don’t think asking for £18 million is especially unreasonable given his pedigree. If we sign him for £14m that will be good business based on where he is as a player today.

 

[SufcBilly]

With Souza, Slimane, Davies and Hamer in the middle of the park, I would like to think that what you say changes from now on?

2 of those are defensive midfielders

 

[bladesince64]

I think this one will be done by Friday. It's the last buy of the window, Hecky wants him, Archer wants it, Villa want fair compensation. Get it over the line, get the two loans by next Friday and viola!!

My dad used to have a viola, it was lovely hearing him play. Just brought back good memories.

 

[Tarqs]

Any young player based in England who has performed in the league below to his level, played internationally at U21s etc and is contracted to PL team will be c. £20m.

Like Aaron ramsay who went for 14m?