CONFIRMED Vinícius Souza

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Guesty said:
Wasn't it you decrying another poster when they said we needed someone in the middle of the park to break things up? Apologies if I've forgotten or misunderstood.
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Probably, but the other guy was talking in terms of wanting a modern day Monty or someone who would be a walking red card in the modern game, rather than someone that plays DM as if it's 2023 and not 2003, winning the ball with workrate, pressing, positioning and some form of physicality rather than just flying into challenges
 
jt64 said:
Probably, but the other guy was talking in terms of wanting a modern day Monty or someone who would be a walking red card in the modern game, rather than someone that plays DM as if it's 2023 and not 2003, winning the ball with workrate, pressing, positioning and some form of physicality rather than just flying into challenges
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Fair enough!
 
loyalblade95 said:
Don't forget, if Burnley want to use Berge against City they have to register him a day earlier than us because they play City on Friday not Saturday.

Given that Souza is apparently undergoing his medical with us while Berge is doing the same at Burnley right now, I'd be surprised if the announcement from us wasn't something along the lines of "Berge departs and Souza signs at the same time".
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Berge departs down the Souza canal.....I'll get me coat
 
ancientblade said:
yes we do still need 4 more creative players to come in but were crying out for a defensive midfielder like souza to sit in front of our back 3 win the ball back and give it these creative midfielders hopefully were bringing in obrien doyle hamer and palmer would do for me oh and another striker and a keeper to challenge wes i reckon we need 6 in
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I think we'll count Slimane as a midfielder and the target after Souza will be 3 MF plus 2 strikers , that's 5 of starting quality - 2 loans & 3 transfers - MINIMUM.

Any spare cash for cover in defence.
 
Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head said:
The attacking stats don't bother me. He's not in the team to do those things, and we have no idea about Espanyols tactics - they were in a relegation battle so he might have just had rubbish around him.
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From Coutts to Norwood to Doyle, the team's been used to having a playmaker always showing for the ball in that position. Will be interesting to see how he fits in and how he impacts our play.
 
Bergen Blade said:
From Coutts to Norwood to Doyle, the team's been used to having a playmaker always showing for the ball in that position. Will be interesting to see how he fits in and how he impacts our play.
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It's a good point. Perhaps the playmakers will sit either side of him?

Or under Hecky are we expecting to move more to a counter attacking team given we will probably have less of the ball next season
 

Keen Blade said:
I think we'll count Slimane as a midfielder and the target after Souza will be 3 MF plus 2 strikers , that's 5 of starting quality - 2 loans & 3 transfers - MINIMUM.

Any spare cash for cover in defence.
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At the moment I reckon the priority will be a couple of midfielders (both regular CM and CAM) and 1 Striker but I reckon we will look at 2 Strikers if we can get the midfield sorted out first.
 
Next to Souza Norwood might actually have a good season depending on what else happens recruitment wise.

His weakness is his lack of athleticism but he’s good at interceptions and has his ping.

Those two could sit deeper and have 3 forwards ahead of them. So long as the 3 forwards were excellent.

Don’t get me wrong it’s not my preferred option I’d rather have Doyle next to Souza but Norwood was excellent in our first prem season and for 2/3rds of last season.
 
Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head said:
It's a good point. Perhaps the playmakers will sit either side of him?

Or under Hecky are we expecting to move more to a counter attacking team given we will probably have less of the ball next season
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Yes maybe, but we need to find one!

Defending could be a strength if Trusty and Souza do well and especially if RND returns. So if we can keep some clean sheets, maybe counter attacking and set pieces can give us some wins? But we will need more attacking threats or it will be one way traffic every game.
 
Bergen Blade said:
Yes maybe, but we need to find one!

Defending could be a strength if Trusty and Souza do well and especially if RND returns. So if we can keep some clean sheets, maybe counter attacking and set pieces can give us some wins? But we will need more attacking threats or it will be one way traffic every game.
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Akpom?
 
ben1987 said:
Next to Souza Norwood might actually have a good season depending on what else happens recruitment wise.

His weakness is his lack of athleticism but he’s good at interceptions and has his ping.

Those two could sit deeper and have 3 forwards ahead of them. So long as the 3 forwards were excellent.

Don’t get me wrong it’s not my preferred option I’d rather have Doyle next to Souza but Norwood was excellent in our first prem season and for 2/3rds of last season.
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In fairness to Norwood, having Souza doing all of the dirty work (tackling, interceptions etc) might allow him to focus more on creating the chances we know he can create.
 
Someone pointed out our chances created last season….
1. Norwood
2. Ndiaye
3. Berge
4. Doyle
5. McAtee

And they basically created them for each other. Norwood can’t create chances for himself. Even less so if he’s not in the team.

Souza isn’t creative and neither is O’Brien, both of whom we haven’t even signed.

People need to give their heads a wobble.
 
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thehet said:
Someone pointed out our chances created last season….
1. Norwood
2. Ndiaye
3. Berge
4. Doyle
5. McAtee

And they basically created them for each other. Norwood can’t create chances for himself. Even less so if he’s not in the team.

Souza isn’t creative and neither is O’Brien, both of which we haven’t even signed.

People need to give their heads a wobble.
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True as long as we raise the goals by about 30 metres Norwood will score easily.
 
Bergen Blade said:
From Coutts to Norwood to Doyle, the team's been used to having a playmaker always showing for the ball in that position. Will be interesting to see how he fits in and how he impacts our play.
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We also have been somewhat easy to play against when that playmaker (generally in a quarterback role) has been nullified. The last PL season was embarrassing in terms of teams playing through us and scoring from central areas.
 

Keen Blade said:
I think we'll count Slimane as a midfielder and the target after Souza will be 3 MF plus 2 strikers , that's 5 of starting quality - 2 loans & 3 transfers - MINIMUM.

Any spare cash for cover in defence.
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your right ideally another 5 to come in before the end of august and im with you i would also like 2 more strikers to come in and like a few have been saying we might see better norwood this season with an enforcer like souza in midfield
 
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