CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

[ISZA ⚔️]

That Twitter account is possibly the most pointless thing going. Image spending your life just repeating what others have already said.

The account repeats what others who are not always easily accessible have said. It’s handy for those who like to hear news.

It‘s not up to you what is pointless. The person who runs it may have a personal set of circumstances that give them the perfect scenario to run such an account. They may also enjoy it - if that’s ok with you?

 

[BrisBlade]

Even if the release clause is 10 million on relegation I would be happy. Anything is money we get that we wouldn't if he just runs his contract down.

 

[S40BLADE]

I tell you what if he lights up the prem I want ALOT more than the 25m people are mentioning on here if we stay up.

 

[Addison]

If he signs a 3 year deal and tears up the EPL next season the Club will be effectively signing away a significant amount of any future transfer fees if they agree to the agents demands. What does the agent want as a release clause? £13.2m euros so that he can walk away to Marseille at the end of next season?

Yes we all want him to sign but the Club are rightly looking at figures that seem reasonable at £35m and £25m respectively should we get relegated. I'm guessing on the £25m but we did reduce Berges valuation by this amount when we went down. There should be a clause inserted in the contract to review these figures should we stay up and Ndiayes star has risen. Any less and we may as well sell him to the highest bidder this window imo.

If this is true seems the agent is angling for him going at the end of next season anyway irrespective of the contract length so we should play hard ball and stand firm on our valuations as we don't want other agents seeing this as a precedent to low ball us on their players valuations. Clubs need to control the narrative not agents. The interests of SUFC outweigh those of an agent who seems intent on getting his player out of the Club on his terms.

 

[S6Blademan]

Outrageous bit of business if Ndiaye signs with a release clause

 

[Brownieblade]

I think we have to be realistic here, though we all think, understandably so, that he is going to light it up this season and therefore his value increase significantly etc

Right now he has little to no interest other than OM at what you could rightly view as a really cheap price at 17 million, if we are to believe that

If the only team showing actual interest, if that’s true, aren’t willing to pay 17 million( and why wouldn’t you when you look at other transfer valuations out there) then if I was illy agent I would be wanting any clause to be around 12 million or less if relegated to enable a move to OM to happen

And then obviously increasing that if we were to stay up though I think in that scenario we will be getting much much bigger offers than 25 million If that happens

 

[BrisBlade]

I tell you what if he lights up the prem I want ALOT more than the 25m people are mentioning on here if we stay up.

If we hold out for 25 million plus I suspect he'll just not sign. I wouldn't if I were him.

 

[Stretch]

It’s not that difficult.

Apparently it is for some. He posts both media and personal stuff though, so perhaps this is why some confuse other stories with his own views.

 

[Brownieblade]

If he signs a 3 year deal and tears up the EPL next season the Club will be effectively signing away a significant amount of any future transfer fees if they agree to the agents demands. What does the agent want as a release clause? £13.2m euros so that he can walk away to Marseille at the end of next season?

Yes we all want him to sign but the Club are rightly looking at figures that seem reasonable at £35m and £25m respectively should we get relegated. I'm guessing on the £25m but we did reduce Berges valuation by this amount when we went down. There should be a clause inserted in the contract to review these figures should we stay up and Ndiayes star has risen. Any less and we may as well sell him to the highest bidder this window imo.

If this is true seems the agent is angling for him going at the end of next season anyway irrespective of the contract length so we should play hard ball and stand firm on our valuations as we don't want other agents seeing this as a precedent to low ball us on their players valuations. Clubs need to control the narrative not agents. The interests of SUFC outweigh those of an agent who seems intent on getting his player out of the Club on his terms.

I would love us to do that but reality is we don’t hold the cards here, all we can do is keep him for one season and hope he keeps us up

We can’t demand anything, only throw money at him and hope it’s enough to make him think it’s worth giving up the leverages he has

 

[Brownieblade]

If we hold out for 25 million plus I suspect he'll just not sign. I wouldn't if I were him.

He would be stupid too to be frank, let’s hope he has a moment of stupidity and does lol

 

[S40BLADE]

If we hold out for 25 million plus I suspect he'll just not sign. I wouldn't if I were him.

Then we will have been royally screwed over. We need to protect the club, in a world where 17m+ is the standard for a top champ forward id be wanting alot more for a top quality player if we stayed in the premier league. Nothing astronomical but 25m couldn't even buy us half the player Ndiaye is and could be IMHO.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Is there such a thing as a notification when a thread is "Confirmed", with an "Ignore" for everything else? Asking for a friend (who looks a bit like me).

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Then we will have been royally screwed over. We need to protect the club, in a world where 17m+ is the standard for a top champ forward id be wanting alot more for a top quality player if we stayed in the premier league. Nothing astronomical but 25m couldn't even buy us half the player Ndiaye is and could be IMHO.

Unfortunately the fact we didn't factor in a +1 into his contract has completely fucked us over. We have some bargaining power but not much

 

[mattbianco1]

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Is this the Prince trying to save us?

"He was born here. Pay £100m. Good price"

 

[NateDogg]

If he signs a 3 year deal and tears up the EPL next season the Club will be effectively signing away a significant amount of any future transfer fees if they agree to the agents demands. What does the agent want as a release clause? £13.2m euros so that he can walk away to Marseille at the end of next season?

Yes we all want him to sign but the Club are rightly looking at figures that seem reasonable at £35m and £25m respectively should we get relegated. I'm guessing on the £25m but we did reduce Berges valuation by this amount when we went down. There should be a clause inserted in the contract to review these figures should we stay up and Ndiayes star has risen. Any less and we may as well sell him to the highest bidder this window imo.

If this is true seems the agent is angling for him going at the end of next season anyway irrespective of the contract length so we should play hard ball and stand firm on our valuations as we don't want other agents seeing this as a precedent to low ball us on their players valuations. Clubs need to control the narrative not agents. The interests of SUFC outweigh those of an agent who seems intent on getting his player out of the Club on his terms.

Sorry but that's how the game is these days. Agents and players have majority of the power. I don't want him to leave for less than he's realistically worth but if he doesn't sign he goes for free.

If we say to his agent we won't let him have a release clause under £50m he'll just say no thanks and leave for nothing.

Are we going to cut our nose of to spite our face just so that his agent doesn't get his way even though he'll be the one laughing the end of next season anyway.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

If he signs a 3 year deal and tears up the EPL next season the Club will be effectively signing away a significant amount of any future transfer fees if they agree to the agents demands. What does the agent want as a release clause? £13.2m euros so that he can walk away to Marseille at the end of next season?

Yes we all want him to sign but the Club are rightly looking at figures that seem reasonable at £35m and £25m respectively should we get relegated. I'm guessing on the £25m but we did reduce Berges valuation by this amount when we went down. There should be a clause inserted in the contract to review these figures should we stay up and Ndiayes star has risen. Any less and we may as well sell him to the highest bidder this window imo.

If this is true seems the agent is angling for him going at the end of next season anyway irrespective of the contract length so we should play hard ball and stand firm on our valuations as we don't want other agents seeing this as a precedent to low ball us on their players valuations. Clubs need to control the narrative not agents. The interests of SUFC outweigh those of an agent who seems intent on getting his player out of the Club on his terms.

If he "tears up the PL next season" he'll have contributed considerably to our survival chances.
That is what we would get in return for "signing away" some of the upside on his transfer fee.

We don't hold the chips here. He and his agent do.

(1) Sell him this Summer.
Lose your best player, at a knock down price and knowingly reduce your odds of survival significantly.

(2) Don't pin him down to a contract this Summer.
He stays, helps out, but walks on a free next Summer.
Also run the risk of him mentally checking out at the business end of the season.

(3) Tie him down to a new deal with a sell-on.
Increase your survival odds, concede a bit on the sell-on.

We can try to have it all our own way in Scenario 3, but it will only increase the odds of Scenarios 1 or 2 happening... which are far less appealing.
There has to be some give and take.

Unless we survive and are bought out by somebody with deep pockets and lofty ambitions, we're probably losing him one way or another next Summer.
We just need to best protect the club for that inevitability.

 

[jono_t2000]

Then we will have been royally screwed over. We need to protect the club, in a world where 17m+ is the standard for a top champ forward id be wanting alot more for a top quality player if we stayed in the premier league. Nothing astronomical but 25m couldn't even buy us half the player Ndiaye is and could be IMHO.

We'd be more royally screwed over if he just says "nah you're demanding to high a release clause I'm not signing I'll walk at end of season"

Even the smallest of release clauses would see us in a better position financially.

Gotta be realistic here fam. Ili and his entourage hold all the cards.

 

[BrisBlade]

Then we will have been royally screwed over. We need to protect the club, in a world where 17m+ is the standard for a top champ forward id be wanting alot more for a top quality player if we stayed in the premier league. Nothing astronomical but 25m couldn't even buy us half the player Ndiaye is and could be IMHO.

I understand the argument that he's worth much more. However, we can't force him to sign a contract. Given that right now he can walk away for free in twelve months, what would you do if he just point black refuses to sign a contract with a release clause any higher than 10 million?

 

[mattbianco1]

Let’s say we stay up and OM come in and match the £30m ish release clause, that doesn’t mean he goes for that amount if say Everton et Al come in £35 and so on. The price we get will be the price the bidding war goes up to.

If his release clause is £30m, there is no bidding war. Any club willing to pay the clause can talk to him.
No club will pay more than the clause

 

[jono_t2000]

Is this the Prince trying to save us?

"He was born here. Pay £100m. Good price"

Maybe they have a rule about certain amount of nstionalized players in the matchday squad.

If so RND would be of massive demand... Counts towards nationalized player count and of much higher quality than the majority of other nationalized Saudi players.

 

[Tingo Fandango]

A sell on clause is a compromise that Utd might have to live with, rather than a hefty release clause

 

[Farnboroughblade]

Could they not incorporate a clause in the contract where the release amount is determined by his success? No one knows how good he’s going to be in the Prem and what his true value will be this time next year. If he scores say 15+ goals then his release value would be far greater than if he were to score only 5. 15+ goals set at £35mil, (still very cheap), but 5 goals at a price as low as need be. It’s obvious he’s not going to be around for the full term of his potentially new contract if he agrees to sign one, rumoured to be 3 years. Sounds as though he wants out no matter where we finish this coming season.

 

[mattbianco1]

Lmao what are you numpties talking about. It's basically a web scraper that grabs up to date news/reports on anything related to Sheffield United.

People actually pay money for programs to do that for new information/news/reports on selected topics.

It's convenient and handy for the majority of people, except the few people who can't handle seeing negative news on the blades without wetting the bed.

Take it for what it is, a collection of up to date news articles relating to Sheffield United which is completely impartial.

It’s literally just a news scraping page to give people the latest rumours, what’s up with that?

Definitely the best Twitter page gor United news that one.
Cant believe people are slagging him off TBH.

Anybody that scours the Web and compiles all news and rumours related to the club wants thanking, not berating.

 

[jono_t2000]

A sell on clause is a compromise that Utd might have to live with, rather than a hefty release clause

Not a bad shout at all. I would be in favor of a smaller release clause as long as that release clause also factored in say a 20% or so sell on clause.

 

[Slim Man]

If he’s as good as we all think he is the release clause level is irrelevant isn’t it?

Let’s say we stay up and OM come in and match the £30m ish release clause, that doesn’t mean he goes for that amount if say Everton et Al come in £35 and so on. The price we get will be the price the bidding war goes up to.

Worse case is he flops int PL and only one club wants him (whichever division we are in) and we only get release clause amount. It’s not like a buyback clause eg Liverpool can buy Brewster for £30m even if Citteh bid £100m

Why would teams bid more than his release clause?

 

[Slim Man]

Definitely the best Twitter page gor United news that one.
Cant believe people are slagging him off TBH.

Anybody that scours the Web and compiles all news and rumours related to the club wants thanking, not berating.

It’s a weird thing to slag off imo

 

[NateDogg]

Could they not incorporate a clause in the contract where the release amount is determined by his success? No one knows how good he’s going to be in the Prem and what his true value will be this time next year. If he scores say 15+ goals then his release value would be far greater than if he were to score only 5. 15+ goals set at £35mil, (still very cheap), but 5 goals at a price as low as need be. It’s obvious he’s not going to be around for the full term of his potentially new contract if he agrees to sign one, rumoured to be 3 years. Sounds as though he wants out no matter where we finish this coming season.

We can ask for whatever we want but Ndiaye and his agent can just say no. The fact he is even considering a contract renewal at this stage has to be viewed a major win. Losing him for free when we could keep him for the season and get a fee in 12 months would be a disaster. Let's not be overly greedy.

 

[LJBlade]

The account repeats what others who are not always easily accessible have said. It’s handy for those who like to hear news.

It‘s not up to you what is pointless. The person who runs it may have a personal set of circumstances that give them the perfect scenario to run such an account. They may also enjoy it - if that’s ok with you?

When did I say it was up to me? I’m not trying to stop them doing anything, I’m just giving my opinion. If I thought people would be so sensitive about it I wouldn’t have bothered.

Let’s be honest, a lot of what they post isn’t really news but if you find it interesting then that’s fine.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

If he "tears up the PL next season" he'll have contributed considerably to our survival chances.
That is what we would get in return for "signing away" some of the upside on his transfer fee.

We don't hold the chips here. He and his agent do.

(1) Sell him this Summer.
Lose your best player, at a knock down price and knowingly reduce your odds of survival significantly.

(2) Don't pin him down to a contract this Summer.
He stays, helps out, but walks on a free next Summer.
Also run the risk of him mentally checking out at the business end of the season.

(3) Tie him down to a new deal with a sell-on.
Increase your survival odds, concede a bit on the sell-on.

We can try to have it all our own way in Scenario 3, but it will only increase the odds of Scenarios 1 or 2 happening... which are far less appealing.
There has to be some give and take.

Unless we survive and are bought out by somebody with deep pockets and lofty ambitions, we're probably losing him one way or another next Summer.
We just need to best protect the club for that inevitability.

*release clause, not sell-on.

 

[Frank the tank]

I think we have to be realistic here, though we all think, understandably so, that he is going to light it up this season and therefore his value increase significantly etc

Right now he has little to no interest other than OM at what you could rightly view as a really cheap price at 17 million, if we are to believe that

If the only team showing actual interest, if that’s true, aren’t willing to pay 17 million( and why wouldn’t you when you look at other transfer valuations out there) then if I was illy agent I would be wanting any clause to be around 12 million or less if relegated to enable a move to OM to happen

And then obviously increasing that if we were to stay up though I think in that scenario we will be getting much much bigger offers than 25 million If that happens

The 17m is a red herring in my opinion
I'm pretty sure that if it were the acceptable amount to us he would be gone now but that's just my opinion from trying to garner the nuts of truth from the behemoth of shit that surrounds this rumour