CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

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I don’t get what’s hard to understand why he may sign a new deal.

1- he was never unhappy here, just stated he would love to play for his boyhood team. No harm in that…however.
2- he has baggage in the form of a young family and wife. Football though important to him will be second to that. It was always going to form part of his consideration…where are his parents and hers for support with kids etc!!
3- Money was not his main focus, being the best he can be is. Would he play and be the main man at Marseille? Maybe not, but sure to be here with how he’s integral to the current managers system.
4- United were and continue to be willing to make him the top earner in the team, showing how much he means to the club. Granted we can’t compete with OM or the rest of the prem but football reasons trump that to Illy.
5- united can pay him very well while in the Prem…meaning for this year he is likely to earn £2.5m at least I would suggest. Millionaire overnight. He has an incentive to perform and maintain that salary, and if it goes tits up an agreed release clause should ensure he keeps or likely increases salary’s elsewhere.
6- even if nobody meets the release clause, he’s unlikely to drop below £1m a year. Not shabby!!
7- age- he’s still young, has lots to learn and time to make those moves when he’s learned his trade completely. Why the rush?

So when push comes to shove we actually hold a strong hand. Granted, the inability to get this sorted 12-18 mi the ago is poor by the club, it was clear what we had and he should have been rewarded and encouraged to commit beyond next season. Just because he was contracted doesn’t mean that good performances and behaviour shouldnt be rewarded with improved terms and a rolling deal.
PA and his financial issues are the cause of the problem, but hopefully will soon be resolved
 
Grizzly blade said:
I don’t get what’s hard to understand why he may sign a new deal.

1- he was never unhappy here, just stated he would love to play for his boyhood team. No harm in that…however.
2- he has baggage in the form of a young family and wife. Football though important to him will be second to that. It was always going to form part of his consideration…where are his parents and hers for support with kids etc!!
3- Money was not his main focus, being the best he can be is. Would he play and be the main man at Marseille? Maybe not, but sure to be here with how he’s integral to the current managers system.
4- United were and continue to be willing to make him the top earner in the team, showing how much he means to the club. Granted we can’t compete with OM or the rest of the prem but football reasons trump that to Illy.
5- united can pay him very well while in the Prem…meaning for this year he is likely to earn £2.5m at least I would suggest. Millionaire overnight. He has an incentive to perform and maintain that salary, and if it goes tits up an agreed release clause should ensure he keeps or likely increases salary’s elsewhere.
6- even if nobody meets the release clause, he’s unlikely to drop below £1m a year. Not shabby!!
7- age- he’s still young, has lots to learn and time to make those moves when he’s learned his trade completely. Why the rush?

So when push comes to shove we actually hold a strong hand. Granted, the inability to get this sorted 12-18 mi the ago is poor by the club, it was clear what we had and he should have been rewarded and encouraged to commit beyond next season. Just because he was contracted doesn’t mean that good performances and behaviour shouldnt be rewarded with improved terms and a rolling deal.
PA and the club's financial issues are the cause of the problem, but hopefully will soon be resolved
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FTFY

But yeah, I agree with the above, and do understand why he'd sign a new contract. BUT, I could also understand why he may want to jump at the Marseille chance. At this stage of his contract they'd give him more and it's a chance to play Champions' League football for the club you support. You tend to get a little irrational with such offers.

Anyway, he's not signed yet so let's see how this plays out.
 
Grizzly blade said:
I don’t get what’s hard to understand why he may sign a new deal.

1- he was never unhappy here, just stated he would love to play for his boyhood team. No harm in that…however.
2- he has baggage in the form of a young family and wife. Football though important to him will be second to that. It was always going to form part of his consideration…where are his parents and hers for support with kids etc!!
3- Money was not his main focus, being the best he can be is. Would he play and be the main man at Marseille? Maybe not, but sure to be here with how he’s integral to the current managers system.
4- United were and continue to be willing to make him the top earner in the team, showing how much he means to the club. Granted we can’t compete with OM or the rest of the prem but football reasons trump that to Illy.
5- united can pay him very well while in the Prem…meaning for this year he is likely to earn £2.5m at least I would suggest. Millionaire overnight. He has an incentive to perform and maintain that salary, and if it goes tits up an agreed release clause should ensure he keeps or likely increases salary’s elsewhere.
6- even if nobody meets the release clause, he’s unlikely to drop below £1m a year. Not shabby!!
7- age- he’s still young, has lots to learn and time to make those moves when he’s learned his trade completely. Why the rush?

So when push comes to shove we actually hold a strong hand. Granted, the inability to get this sorted 12-18 mi the ago is poor by the club, it was clear what we had and he should have been rewarded and encouraged to commit beyond next season. Just because he was contracted doesn’t mean that good performances and behaviour shouldnt be rewarded with improved terms and a rolling deal.
PA and his financial issues are the cause of the problem, but hopefully will soon be resolved
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Just playing devils advocate here but why I’d everyone assuming he wasn’t offered a new deal or possibility of one wasn’t discussed

Once the club accepted an offer from Everton and illy turned it down do we genuinely think it was just left at that??

I’m not saying once he did we offered him a deal straight off but if he is staying and halitosis to stay at the club then you would imagine he has had a rough idea for some time what the clubs position has been over the last how ever months

Maybe it simply is that his wife has finally got through, maybe the new offer from club was one discussed previously and now put to him
 
Houso said:
FTFY

But yeah, I agree with the above, and do understand why he'd sign a new contract. BUT, I could also understand why he may want to jump at the Marseille chance. At this stage of his contract they'd give him more and it's a chance to play Champions' League football for the club you support. You tend to get a little irrational with such offers.

Anyway, he's not signed yet so let's see how this plays out.
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Yep…a “chance”
Also a chance he hardly plays at all too
 
I think Hecky's part in this is very important. Hecky is one of only a few who believed in Illy and essentially it was Hecky who gave him a chance. I think equally Illy listens to Hecky's advice. Just remember that come November when there are calls for his sacking. Illy will be off in January if that happens
 
Brownieblade said:
Just playing devils advocate here but why I’d everyone assuming he wasn’t offered a new deal or possibility of one wasn’t discussed

Once the club accepted an offer from Everton and illy turned it down do we genuinely think it was just left at that??

I’m not saying once he did we offered him a deal straight off but if he is staying and halitosis to stay at the club then you would imagine he has had a rough idea for some time what the clubs position has been over the last how ever months

Maybe it simply is that his wife has finally got through, maybe the new offer from club was one discussed previously and now put to him
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Did we accept an offer from Everton? Not saying you are wrong but didn't the owner say no to any sales? May well be my memory.
 
Grizzly blade said:
I don’t get what’s hard to understand why he may sign a new deal.

1- he was never unhappy here, just stated he would love to play for his boyhood team. No harm in that…however.
2- he has baggage in the form of a young family and wife. Football though important to him will be second to that. It was always going to form part of his consideration…where are his parents and hers for support with kids etc!!
3- Money was not his main focus, being the best he can be is. Would he play and be the main man at Marseille? Maybe not, but sure to be here with how he’s integral to the current managers system.
4- United were and continue to be willing to make him the top earner in the team, showing how much he means to the club. Granted we can’t compete with OM or the rest of the prem but football reasons trump that to Illy.
5- united can pay him very well while in the Prem…meaning for this year he is likely to earn £2.5m at least I would suggest. Millionaire overnight. He has an incentive to perform and maintain that salary, and if it goes tits up an agreed release clause should ensure he keeps or likely increases salary’s elsewhere.
6- even if nobody meets the release clause, he’s unlikely to drop below £1m a year. Not shabby!!
7- age- he’s still young, has lots to learn and time to make those moves when he’s learned his trade completely. Why the rush?

So when push comes to shove we actually hold a strong hand. Granted, the inability to get this sorted 12-18 mi the ago is poor by the club, it was clear what we had and he should have been rewarded and encouraged to commit beyond next season. Just because he was contracted doesn’t mean that good performances and behaviour shouldnt be rewarded with improved terms and a rolling deal.
PA and his financial issues are the cause of the problem, but hopefully will soon be resolved
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Aye
Fuckin families eh - who’d have em 😉
 
Weerz the ITK views on him signing up again?

Must be a tap in for them now at this point surely?
 

Brownieblade said:
Just playing devils advocate here but why I’d everyone assuming he wasn’t offered a new deal or possibility of one wasn’t discussed

Once the club accepted an offer from Everton and illy turned it down do we genuinely think it was just left at that??

I’m not saying once he did we offered him a deal straight off but if he is staying and halitosis*** to stay at the club then you would imagine he has had a rough idea for some time what the clubs position has been over the last how ever months

Maybe it simply is that his wife has finally got through, maybe the new offer from club was one discussed previously and now put to him
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That's fine but who has the bad breath*** ?
 
The old 'the selling club are asking too much bollocks'. Mmhhh. Looks to me that they have had a bit of a knock back from the lad himself and his agent, and that Ndiaye is now indicating that he will be happy to sign a new contract with United (probably due to family and personal reasons truth be told over professional ambition). So Marseille are attempting a bit of a PR exercise to save face as they have been rejected. Far more palatable to their fans to think that it's United being arkward and stopping the deal happening rather than the probable truth which is the lad might want to stay with United.

As an aside, £17.2m for IN. Get to fuck. He's worth a damned sight more than that even if he only has 1 year left with us. If they didn't want to pay that (and instantly have a player worth at least double that value as soon as the ink dried on his contract) then they really are fuckin puddled down on the French coast.
 
brownblade said:
Yeah I think they mean £27.1m. Every club in Europe's top leagues would be bidding at £17.2m.
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Every big club in Europe and most others would be bidding 27 million if he was rated that highly

27 million would be cheap for most for a talent like illy
 
Brownieblade said:
Just playing devils advocate here but why I’d everyone assuming he wasn’t offered a new deal or possibility of one wasn’t discussed

Once the club accepted an offer from Everton and illy turned it down do we genuinely think it was just left at that??

I’m not saying once he did we offered him a deal straight off but if he is staying and halitosis to stay at the club then you would imagine he has had a rough idea for some time what the clubs position has been over the last how ever months

Maybe it simply is that his wife has finally got through, maybe the new offer from club was one discussed previously and now put to him
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Obviously it wasn't just left at that

www.thestar.co.uk

Everton’s huge Iliman Ndiaye bid revealed as United make big transfer statement

Exclusive: The huge offer Blades turned down from Everton for star man Ndiaye despite financial woes
www.thestar.co.uk www.thestar.co.uk
 
Tarqs said:
We didn't reject any bid from Everton, it was accepted (according to someone on here).
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Presumably the Everton bid matched (or bettered) our valuation. The current regime seems to be pretty open with the players that they all have a value and if a bid is received at or above that it'll get accepted; below it won't be.

Ndiaye was absolutely unequivocal that he wasn't interested in a move to Everton.
 
Need4speed said:
I think Hecky's part in this is very important. Hecky is one of only a few who believed in Illy and essentially it was Hecky who gave him a chance. I think equally Illy listens to Hecky's advice. Just remember that come November when there are calls for his sacking. Illy will be off in January if that happens
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If so, I very much doubt any clause will be triggered in Jan so if he does leave, it will be for a lot of money and a lot more than Utd would have realised this summer or next.
 

I dunno - £17m for someone unproven at Prem level when he could basically go for free in January........

What am I missing?

Yes I think he's bloody good by the way.
 
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