Sharp

[robbiez666]

Cheers mate.

Anything on Norwood, Stevens and McBurnie?

I think we activated the extra year on McBurnie

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I think we activated the extra year on McBurnie

Possibly with a view to selling.

 

[robbiez666]

Possibly with a view to selling.

I can't imagine we'd do that to be honest. He seems to really like it here and a year left would maybe get us a couple of million? I'm not sure how much money there will be in the Championship next season?

Maybe if Leeds go down they'd go for him. Leeds lad and all. But with less than a year left they probably aren't offering much. He's currently our best striker (aside from Ndiaye) by a fair distance as well.

 

[jt64]

I can’t see it happening if it does then it is a massive u-turn from the club. Should have official news on it this week.

Have the club actually announced anything officially, or are still all at the "heard this from tea lady" stage? Hard for the club to u-turn from something they haven't said, isn't it

 

[Bladesman]

Have the club actually announced anything officially, or are still all at the "heard this from tea lady" stage? Hard for the club to u-turn from something they haven't said, isn't it

Just the WAGs dropping hints on social media.

 

[Champagneblade]

Just looks like they are talking to me....

Which one is you?

 

[Champagneblade]

Billy was pretty hopeless and out of his depth 3 years ago in the PL, why on earth is he going to be better 3 years later

He had the best scoring rate out of all our strikers per minute in the season we went down.

Don't recall him looking any more hopeless than all the others, some of which are also still here.

12 months ago he was scoring just under a goal every 2 games in the Championship. He started 30 then. Only started 14 this time so no wonder his goals are down.

By all means conclude it's time. But he was hardly given a chance in the PL.

 

[Bladesman]

He had the best scoring rate out of all our strikers per minute in the season we went down.

Don't recall him looking any more hopeless than all the others, some of which are also still here.

Difference is Billy is now 37 and barely mustered 2 goals this season.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I can't imagine we'd do that to be honest. He seems to really like it here and a year left would maybe get us a couple of million? I'm not sure how much money there will be in the Championship next season?

Maybe if Leeds go down they'd go for him. Leeds lad and all. But with less than a year left they probably aren't offering much. He's currently our best striker (aside from Ndiaye) by a fair distance as well.

I imagine a situation something like this:

The 1 yr deal is at the same level of pay as he was on when he last played in the PL and twice as much as this season.

If we don't initiate the 1 yr renewal clause of his contract, he's out of contract and is then in negotiations with us on a new deal and other teams on a free. His value to us is therefore £0, and the situation is for the best part totally out of our hands. The 1yr extension gives us control of the situation and gives him a value to us, probably between £5m to £8m, so long as he is sold in the summer transfer window.

However, the amount of money that we are paying him under the extension is beyond what we can afford. So, we'll offer him a new 2 or 3 yr deal at the same time to start in 24/25 on reduced terms, probably 25% less. If he accepts, then everyone is happy, if not, then we'll attempt to sell.

 

[Champagneblade]

The best thing for the club and Osula/Jebbo would be for them to go out on loan for the season. They're both far too raw. Sure, they could stay and maybe get bits and pieces of game time but their development needs regular football. Realistically, they're unlikely to make the difference next season but if they're both raring to go for the next one that would be great for the club.

Which would leave us with:

McBurnie
Ndiaye

Brewster

If Brewster isn't going to be fit, then we're very short. There's an argument that says keep Sharp as long as he'd take a low wage, but I don't buy the coaching role. We have Lester as our attacking coach.

I'd prefer Pukki, but Sharp would be cheaper, I guess.

He's not done much this season and will be a lot less effective against the better defenders in the top flight.

It's a no fucking way from me but we might be short on options.

Depends also what formation we are playing.

If it is 3-4-2-1 with Ndiaye and someone like Kent or McAtee off a striker then you don't need so many out and out strikers. Once Ndiaye leaves then there is your chance to get Osula and Jebbo as a pair and play 3-4-1-2 or with some McBurnie and Brewster rotation if fit.

Maybe you're looking at Berge and Doyle as a pair with Ndiaye and Kent off McBurnie or something like that. So you need a McBurnie alternative and a back up no 10. Maybe that's where Pukki comes in or Billy.

But it feels like the dye is cast.

 

[Champagneblade]

Difference is Billy is now 37 and barely mustered 2 goals this season.

True but strikers have unproductive years. Look at McBurnie. We're all for keeping him now but the prior two years didn't give thet impression.

 

[Bl4desutd]

I still think Brewster will come good, and may prove a decent partner for Illy,
I think we should keep Illy & realise he will go for nowt at the end of his contract, but should do enough for us to stay up.

 

[brownblade]

I still think Brewster will come good, and may prove a decent partner for Illy,
I think we should keep Illy & realise he will go for nowt at the end of his contract, but should do enough for us to stay up.

I love, agree and er, pray, for this.

 

[JohnDenver]

Don't recall him looking any more hopeless than all the others,

Didzy?

 

[Davalon]

I get the sentiment but if we're using the argument of keeping Sharp to come on and hold the ball up late in games, then we're fucked before we start.

As much as we all love Billy, like anything in life, it comes to an end.

With the greatest respect, I don't see 37/38 year old Billy offering much at all on the pitch next season. That's hardly a slight on him. Hoe many other strikers have played in the Prem at his age.

The reality is that it's all sentiment. The same people desperate for him to stay would be mightily despondent if we signed someone a few years younger than Billy with similar pedigree to do the same job that they believe he will do, and for less wages

 

[Scarebus]

I can’t see it happening if it does then it is a massive u-turn from the club. Should have official news on it this week.

Anything on the take-over T-Dogg?

(Worth a try innit Rodley)

 

[s20Blade]

The best thing for the club and Osula/Jebbo would be for them to go out on loan for the season. They're both far too raw. Sure, they could stay and maybe get bits and pieces of game time but their development needs regular football. Realistically, they're unlikely to make the difference next season but if they're both raring to go for the next one that would be great for the club.

Which would leave us with:

McBurnie
Ndiaye

Brewster

If Brewster isn't going to be fit, then we're very short. There's an argument that says keep Sharp as long as he'd take a low wage, but I don't buy the coaching role. We have Lester as our attacking coach.

I'd prefer Pukki, but Sharp would be cheaper, I guess.

He's not done much this season and will be a lot less effective against the better defenders in the top flight.

It's a no fucking way from me but we might be short on options.

I think a full season of regular football for both of them and they might just cut championship level next season if we go down, more-so jebbison.

Strikers are a premium these days, especially English ones.

 

[robbiez666]

I think a full season of regular football for both of them and they might just cut championship level next season if we go down, more-so jebbison.

Strikers are a premium these days, especially English ones.

The only issue might be keeping them. Jebbo's is up in 2024.

 

[s20Blade]

The only issue might be keeping them. Jebbo's is up in 2024.

Surely we've got enough to take a punt on them now, if we have got 20m budget IMO we're best off using that towards another promotion attempt....

 

[LS5 Blade]

Under no circumstances should the bagsman be getting a playing contract next season.

Quite simply he is not good enough to get in our team anymore. We're he not born in Sheffield and didn't support us, there would have been a lynch mob at the lane for his performances this season.

Might sound harsh for all he has done for us, but he is finished. We will be a team with 40% max of the ball in most games next season and to have a slow, short, ageing striker coming on will be a waste of time and wages!

Leave now whilst your stock is high!

 

[robbiez666]

Surely we've got enough to take a punt on them now, if we have got 20m budget IMO we're best off using that towards another promotion attempt....

I think the best thing to do towards another promotion attempt is to give them both regular first team football somewhere.

The issue is, right now, they're both eminently poachable.

 

[Tezza1889]

Under no circumstances should the bagsman be getting a playing contract next season.

Quite simply he is not good enough to get in our team anymore. We're he not born in Sheffield and didn't support us, there would have been a lynch mob at the lane for his performances this season.

Might sound harsh for all he has done for us, but he is finished. We will be a team with 40% max of the ball in most games next season and to have a slow, short, ageing striker coming on will be a waste of time and wages!

Leave now whilst your stock is high!

I'm choosing my words very carefully..

He was past it at Bournemouth last time out.. Don't need to write anymore do I.

In the 6 yard box, if the ball drops to him he wil score.. If he accepts a squad level contract, and doesn't mind sitting on the bench occasionally then I think we give him a year..

So we're saying Jack rodwell and ravel Morrison were worth a year in the prem with wilder but not sharp.

We get injuries to mcburnie and Brewster, highly likely in my opinion.. We'd need strikers as back up..

These words are not from the heart, they're from the head.. The shit houses we employed under wilder were a complete waste of money. Billy Sharp on the right contract (financially) for one more season.. Its a yes from me.

 

[Champagneblade]

I'm choosing my words very carefully..

He was past it at Bournemouth last time out.. Don't need to write anymore do I.

In the 6 yard box, if the ball drops to him he wil score.. If he accepts a squad level contract, and doesn't mind sitting on the bench occasionally then I think we give him a year..

So we're saying Jack rodwell and ravel Morrison were worth a year in the prem with wilder but not sharp.

We get injuries to mcburnie and Brewster, highly likely in my opinion.. We'd need strikers as back up..

These words are not from the heart, they're from the head.. The shit houses we employed under wilder were a complete waste of money. Billy Sharp on the right contract (financially) for one more season.. Its a yes from me.

It's all a juggling act isn't it.

You can't have too many strikers because you need to stick to a 25 man squad although young players get a bit of a free pass.

Is Pukki more functional that Sharp at the moment. At 33 in March vs 37 in Feb it would only be right to say, yes.

That might allow Brewster, Jebbison and Osula all out on loan.

It's a great plan.

But then you also have reality to deal with. What if they don't want to go out on loan? Who's to say it's the right move? What would become of Brooks if he went on loan to Chesterfield instead of starring in the Championship? Also with McBurnie, Sharp and Pukki, how much pace do you have there? Pukki has a bit bit the other two don't. You look very pedestrian. We just have to strike the balance right.

Certainly if we get injuries, I'd rather be calling on 266 goal Billy Sharp than asking young Marsh to shoulder the attack against the Premier League's finest.

It's one of those things that will only become apparent once all the pieces are in place.

 

[Sharp as a blade]

So we're saying Jack rodwell and ravel Morrison were worth a year in the prem with wilder but not sharp.

I think you'll struggle to find many people who are saying Jack Rodwell and Ravel Morrison were worth a years wages in the prem.

 

[ATL Recs]

I'm choosing my words very carefully..

He was past it at Bournemouth last time out.. Don't need to write anymore do I.

In the 6 yard box, if the ball drops to him he wil score.. If he accepts a squad level contract, and doesn't mind sitting on the bench occasionally then I think we give him a year..

So we're saying Jack rodwell and ravel Morrison were worth a year in the prem with wilder but not sharp.

We get injuries to mcburnie and Brewster, highly likely in my opinion.. We'd need strikers as back up..

These words are not from the heart, they're from the head.. The shit houses we employed under wilder were a complete waste of money. Billy Sharp on the right contract (financially) for one more season.. Its a yes from me.

Any contract for him to play football in the premier league is a complete waste of money

 

[Rodley]

If the likes of Sharp, Fleck and Stevens, legends that they are, are getting contracts for next year we’re in trouble.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

I think you'll struggle to find many people who are saying Jack Rodwell and Ravel Morrison were worth a years wages in the prem.

They weren’t worth a day’s pay !!

 

[Tezza1889]

Any contract for him to play football in the premier league is a complete waste of money

In your opinion... And that's fine..

 

[Tezza1889]

I think you'll struggle to find many people who are saying Jack Rodwell and Ravel Morrison were worth a years wages in the prem.

This is my point re sharp.

 

[Sharp as a blade]

This is my point re sharp.

You were saying if Rodwell and Morrison could be given premier League contracts last time, then Sharp should now. I'm not sure pointing out that we've wasted money before is a good argument for possibly doing it again.

In my opinion not offering Sharp a new deal is the correct decision.

Unless he's willing to accept a ridiculously low wage (which I highly doubt), then his contribution on the field next season would not be worth the outlay in my opinion.