Ruben rates robbo

[The Crab]

For 3 years we've been hoping we get shut of Robbo, he's Div 1 at best,always always always a mistake in the buffoon, please to God lets not have him starting this year.

Yes back up OK, but sorry if he starts its a huge sign that these owners are SKINT.

If you’re a lower champ / upper league one side, there’s a lot to like about Robbo. But he is limited and if we had gone up it just really wouldn’t have been funny watching him get rinsed every week.

I’ve not been convinced our new owners are massively rich in terms of what they might spend on us. I understand Huddersfield’s owner is worth a few bob but that isn’t reflected in the teams performances.

Obvious point to make but being worth x billion doesn’t mean you want to spend that much. Their money is made by investing it. The age of the local businessman made good is sadly gone.

Even the likes of morecambe if they survive, their interested parties are consortiums

 

[Keen Blade]

On the field JLT is one of those players who fits in the category 'Blade at heart.' Retaining him as captain, the apparent second chance scheme and the more baffling loyalty to clearly unfit players underlines the notion that the club is gambling/relying on Ruben getting a different tune out of more or less the same instruments.

Without Souttar.
Without Souza.
Without Gilchrist/Hamza.
Without all the other loanees.
Without Blaster for a while (and no one can know whether he'll return at the same level).

But with Robbo

The owners must think League One means the old First Division.

 

[Keen Blade]

If. Nothing else it highlights the real lack of leaders in the group

We need a Souttar - but on a permanent

 

[FriethBlade]

We need a Souttar - but on a permanent

True and we've need one ever since JOC got injured

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Hope you're right but I dont see us being linked with any defenders and he has started bindon and him together twice now and anel in last year of his contract

If he is anywhere near the team then we are where we were last season ,too good for most teams but not good enough to beat the best

He started Robinson with Anel at York then he started him with Bindon at Rotherham.

I expect Anel and Bindon to start together at Burton and probably get 60 minutes together so over the 3 games likely to show that pairing as his preference, minute's wise.

 

[Bladedog]

The anel/robbo combo wasn't good enough in the prem or last season..we need someone on a permanent..we need clean sheets if we're gonna challenge we won't have many if bindon gets injured and them two are starting regularly.

 

[Keen Blade]

Hope you're right but I dont see us being linked with any defenders and he has started bindon and him together twice now and anel in last year of his contract

If he is anywhere near the team then we are where we were last season ,too good for most teams but not good enough to beat the best

I don't think you're being a fanny.

And nor am I when I say that -- even putting the Robbo issue aside - we are nowhere near the team we were last year.
See my above post about all the quality players we now don't have.

If the owners don't back Selles in order to fill those gaps , we are barely PlayOffs.
And if Robbo starts many games , we are mid-table at best.

We need at least 4 high quality recruits straight into the first team.
A RB
A CB captain leader of defence.
A MF Loanee to sub for Blaster pro tem
A Souza replacement

 

[Silent Blade]

I don't think you're being a fanny.

And nor am I when I say that -- even putting the Robbo issue aside - we are nowhere near the team we were last year.
See my above post about all the quality players we now don't have.

If the owners don't back Selles in order to fill those gaps , we are barely PlayOffs.
And if Robbo starts many games , we are mid-table at best.

We need at least 4 high quality recruits straight into the first team.
A RB
A CB captain leader of defence.
A MF Loanee to sub for Blaster pro tem
A Souza replacement

A Souza replacement? Don't think Souza is Selles type of midfielder. Selles will probably want a box to box midfielder

 

[steve26272]

Without Souttar.
Without Souza.
Without Gilchrist/Hamza.
Without all the other loanees.
Without Blaster for a while (and no one can know whether he'll return at the same level).

But with Robbo

The owners must think League One means the old First Division.

Stop been a fanny FFS!

Probably saying same this time last year. Then this happened


Souttar - 6/8
Burrows - 27/7
Cooper- 15/8
Campbell - 11/8
Gilchrist - 7/8
JSR-16/8

Holding -3/2
Choudhury-27/1
Cannon-23/1
BBD - 20/1

And it will again, everyone would love early business but that’s not how it works

 

[Slim Man]

He's not signed Bindon to sit on the bench.

And unless Baptiste or Sasnukas has really stepped up, we'll need another. And that's without a potential Anel sale.

Robbo won't be starting. No issue with him being in the squad or club captain.

 

[Keen Blade]

Stop been a fanny FFS!

Probably saying same this time last year. Then this happened


Souttar - 6/8
Burrows - 27/7
Cooper- 15/8
Campbell - 11/8
Gilchrist - 7/8
JSR-16/8

Holding -3/2
Choudhury-27/1
Cannon-23/1
BBD - 20/1

And it will again, everyone would love early business but that’s not how it works

Of course I agree.
I'm not whittling about slow progress with signings.
I'm just laying out what I believe to be the minimum requirements to equal the team we had last season.

There are some fannies on here who are already "seeing signs" that the owners are not gonna back Selles.
That's just silly panicking.
These owners are not daft.
They sacked Wilder for the money he wasted , the mistakes he made , the favouritism towards Robbo and the generally unattractive crap we played.
Not to mention Wilder's unseemly antics on pub tables and confronting opposition players.

They have eyes and can see.

They will either invest in some quality on the pitch or they will lose their investment.

"I have a dream" ...
That they will do the right thing

 

[loyalblade95]

Stop been a fanny FFS!

Probably saying same this time last year. Then this happened


Souttar - 6/8
Burrows - 27/7
Cooper- 15/8
Campbell - 11/8
Gilchrist - 7/8
JSR-16/8

Holding -3/2
Choudhury-27/1
Cannon-23/1
BBD - 20/1

And it will again, everyone would love early business but that’s not how it works

Besides, the better players (loans and fees) tend to be available after preseason games and even after the 1st game, when managers have had a chance to see the squads in a competitive game, to see what they still need.

The window is running quite slow at the moment, hardly anyone doing any business, but it will really pick up the pace after the first game.

 

[Youngand70]

The only way to bring proper closure to what became the increasingly bizarre Wilder era is to remove Robbo from the club.

I'm convinced that Wilders failure to replace Souttar promptly and with a match-fit quality CB early in the January window is one of the reasons for his removal.

Only then to bring in a non-match-fit Holding at great expense , thereby prolonging Robbo's place in the team.

And then , to cap it all , once Holding got match-fit , to continue preferring Robbo was like adding insult to injury for the owners.

And then spending the £10m on a Cannon that doesn't fire , instead of a quality CB , begins to look like insanity.

If the owners either can't see this or can't grasp this nettle , they are not the businessmen I had imagined them to be and that's disappointing.

It begs the question - what footballing experience is on the Board other than Princy's "lap dog" Bettis and Pejman Nozad who has some professional footballing experience when he was younger as well as some sports journalism experience. Who is advising the board on footballing matters, Bettis and or Jamie Hoyland? Would have thought with the investment made an experienced Director of Football/Sporting Director would have been a good appointment.

 

[Addison]

If being club captain limits the number of games JLT plays next season then I'm all for it. He can be an experienced voice in the dressing room so long as his playing time is limited. He is back up at best imo. Far too many mistakes last season that cost goals. His lack of pace, aerial dominance and inability to track runners sets him out as a potential liability.

I fear he will be bullied again by championship forwards and his weakness will be targeted by other teams. Millwall at Home was a prime example last season without even mentioning the QPR game.

We do lack leaders and Souza would have fallen into the category if he'd stayed. I am concerned this decision is borne out of a lack of experienced resources rather than the need for an inspirational leader on the pitch

 

[Keen Blade]

It begs the question - what footballing experience is on the Board other than Princy's "lap dog" Bettis and Pejman Nozad who has some professional footballing experience when he was younger as well as some sports journalism experience. Who is advising the board on footballing matters, Bettis and or Jamie Hoyland? Would have thought with the investment made an experienced Director of Football/Sporting Director would have been a good appointment.

I'm surprised that the owners , having sacked Wilder , did not immediately appoint a Director of Football.

Do they honestly think that Bettis (now a Director) has enough past football experience or indeed present available time in the day (with every other responsibility he carries) ,
to be the Football Director , supervising signings by the head coach Selles ?

If they do , surely they must take his non-football work off him ?

Wilder proved you can't run it alone when he crumbled in 20/21.

His departure was the ideal opportunity to restructure the senior management who actually work in Sheffield ....

And they've not taken it

 

[North Riding Blade]

I’ve not got a problem with Robbo getting the captaincy. I don’t think it just goes on what happens on the pitch but it’s more to do with what happens off it.

He’s not the most gifted or talented player and he will be very much a bit part player this season in my eyes but he is a good solid pro, doesn’t moan of whinge when he doesn’t get in the side and helps manage the dressing room by setting the standards and is probably a bit of a conduit between management and the players.

Really good intelligent post.....but far too well thought out to cut any ice on here. Once a scapegoat - always a scapegoat.

 

[Frank the tank]

Really good intelligent post.....but far too well thought out to cut any ice on here. Once a scapegoat - always a scapegoat.

The stories ive heard about him dont point to him being captain material
The continuous shirt pulling ,throwing players to ground ,starting fights ,not signing autographs or doing interviews ,rowing with the manager when he doesnt get picked

He is captain of a side that were mentally fragile and barely ever got back into a game when up against it
Hes a solid pro i"ll give you that and he gets respect for goading the pigs after they threw that firework but he is not even a centre back never mind a good one at this level and shouldn't be anywhere near a team with promotion ambitions

 

[North Riding Blade]

The stories ive heard about him dont point to him being captain material
The continuous shirt pulling ,throwing players to ground ,starting fights ,not signing autographs or doing interviews ,rowing with the manager when he doesnt get picked

He is captain of a side that were mentally fragile and barely ever got back into a game when up against it
Hes a solid pro i"ll give you that and he gets respect for goading the pigs after they threw that firework but he is not even a centre back never mind a good one at this level and shouldn't be anywhere near a team with promotion ambitions

I don't have access to your extensive 'story library' just my experience watching the bloke. I know he can make mistakes. Give me the name of a player, particularly a defender, who doesn't. But, like all supporters, you have an opinion. Mine happens to differ from yours.

 

[Eric_Brooks]

He absolutely has his faults, but the last 3 managers appear to think he is quite a bit better than you do.

I remember people saying the same about Collins and Doyle

 

[Stretch]

I remember people saying the same about Collins and Doyle

League 1 players when we were a league 1 team. And a team that consistently reached playoffs.

So on that basis, yes it's comparable.

 

[Silky Sabella]

Ok maybe ive overreacted
Let's hope so

 

[Silky Sabella]

Club captain, (1 season) not team captain !

 

[Silky Sabella]

The stories ive heard about him dont point to him being captain material
The continuous shirt pulling ,throwing players to ground ,starting fights ,not signing autographs or doing interviews ,rowing with the manager when he doesnt get picked

He is captain of a side that were mentally fragile and barely ever got back into a game when up against it
Hes a solid pro i"ll give you that and he gets respect for goading the pigs after they threw that firework but he is not even a centre back never mind a good one at this level and shouldn't be anywhere near a team with promotion ambitions

Totally agree Frank! If O' Connell had still been at the club, Robinson would not be anywhere near the first team and will not be when a new centre back is signed to play alongside Bindon!

 

[KMC-1889]

He absolutely has his faults, but the last 3 managers appear to think he is quite a bit better than you do.

Wilder clearly didn’t rate him cause he was happy playing Ahmedhodzic out of position when he signed Souttar.

Souttar stays fit last season and Robinson doesn’t make enough appearances to trigger his contract and we don’t have to watch teams bombard that left side and watch him back off from runners until they’re in the box.

 

[Stretch]

Wilder clearly didn’t rate him cause he was happy playing Ahmedhodzic out of position when he signed Souttar.

Souttar stays fit last season and Robinson doesn’t make enough appearances to trigger his contract and we don’t have to watch teams bombard that left side and watch him back off from runners until they’re in the box.

Yeah but he didn't think he was shit, which is the assessment of him being made by others earlier in the thread. Wilder regularly talked highly of him, "the skipper" and also persevered with him after signing Holding, which admittedly seemed an odd decision.

As I have said, numerous times now on this thread, I don't think Robinson is a great leader, and nor should he be captain. But in no way is he a bad player at this level. He's just fine in most of the things he does.

 

[TJ blade]

We need a Souttar - but on a permanent

With his serious injury mate, he may never play again, at this level anyway.

 

[ancientblade]

if souttar had stayed fit we would have won the league and be back in the premier league it was a sliding doors sort of moment when he got injured but it all depends if ruben wants that type of centre back and i have to agree with most other posters robinson cannot be anything more than a back up still cant forgive him for refusing to get anywhere near mayender