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[XH536]

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Is this Middlesbrough 1958-59, lost 0-1. I can recognise Alfie Ringstead, no.7 & Doc' no.9.
Who's shooting in first photo, looks like Hamilton but he didn't play v 'brough.
Original floodlights, but was the pylon on JSS there from the start or an improvement at a later date? I had always thought it was erected when the 2nd set were erected.
There is a photo with the original and second set of floodlight pylons standing but cannot lay my hand on it at this time.

 

[HarryHaslam]

Is this Middlesbrough 1958-59, lost 0-1. I can recognise Alfie Ringstead, no.7 & Doc' no.9.
Who's shooting in first photo, looks like Hamilton but he didn't play v 'brough.
Original floodlights, but was the pylon on JSS there from the start or an improvement at a later date? I had always thought it was erected when the 2nd set were erected.
There is a photo with the original and second set of floodlight pylons standing but cannot lay my hand on it at this time.

Liverpool 1959, yes it’s Hamilton shooting.

 

[XH536]

Liverpool 1959, yes it’s Hamilton shooting.

Bloody old age, I'd looked at that and obviously disregarded it.
I would have been playing mi sen, so wouldn't have been there but my grandfather and uncle would have been on the 'Terrace', a couple of those dots to the left of the goalkeepers backside.
Thank you.

 

[XH536]

October 1952
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Full photo, cannot cut off Hutchinson, 84 apps. 11 goals, winger or inside forward and especially Ernest Jackson, long serving player and trainer

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Thanks for that, but feel a sad finally, the game was almost choreographed, for a player of Matthews ability.
I saw Matthews, .aged thirty eight, first on 29th Aug '53 at the Lane, giving eighteen year old Graham Shaw something to think about.
One incident, gave Graham a yard start and beat him to the ball with room to spare. Blades lost 3-4 being down 1-3 HT, Hagan, Wragg-2.
Also saw him play in the Derek Dooley 'Trust Fund' Floodlit Match 9th March '55View attachment 157068

I am always interested when the Blackpool match of August 1953 is mentioned - it was my first match at the Lane. Below are some photos of the programme, which may be of interest to you:

 

[reedy63]

Is it true that if people found out Stanley Matthews was injured or summat?.outside the ground Bramall Lane they would walk away and not go through the turnstiles?

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Is it true that if people found out Stanley Matthews was injured or summat?.outside the ground Bramall Lane they would walk away and not go through the turnstiles?

I don’t recall that particular claim, but I can imagine it doing the rounds. We had watched the ‘Matthews’ Cup Final on a neighbour’s TV, and at the age of 6
I nagged my Dad into taking me to the Lane when I knew Blackpool were playing. But I have just had a look at the crowds early season (newly promoted), and the crowd for the Blackpool match of just over 35000 was actually the second lowest in the first 7 home games, which would not suggest that he had that great an impact. It had a great impact on me, though; almost 70 years on, and I haven’t lost my enthusiasm for going to the Lane.

 

[XH536]

Is it true that if people found out Stanley Matthews was injured or summat?.outside the ground Bramall Lane they would walk away and not go through the turnstiles?

I would say 'YES; to that, as I know from personal experience, it was the same with Hagan at the Lane.
When I were a lad, early '50, lot of Owls went to the Lane and visa versa for the respective home games.
Reason for this was mainly to keep abreast of their teams scores, in real time, but also there wasn't as much to do then, country getting back on it's feet after a world war and I'm sure it got one out the house and from under the ladies feet had som'ut to do with it also.
Wednesday had some excellent player around that time but many realised what a player Jimmy was as did the Blades supporters so if he was deffo injured they would not go.
Sure older end on here know and it has been stated before that SWFC put in a bid to buy Jimmy and were going to have it accept but the man refused to go.
Sure showed the measure of the man as a man and how intelligent he was and he took that onto the field in his play.
If you never saw him play, for whatever reason, you sure missed something, truly.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I would say 'YES; to that, as I know from personal experience, it was the same with Hagan at the Lane.
When I were a lad, early '50, lot of Owls went to the Lane and visa versa for the respective home games.
Reason for this was mainly to keep abreast of their teams scores, in real time, but also there wasn't as much to do then, country getting back on it's feet after a world war and I'm sure it got one out the house and from under the ladies feet had som'ut to do with it also.
Wednesday had some excellent player around that time but many realised what a player Jimmy was as did the Blades supporters so if he was deffo injured they would not go.
Sure older end on here know and it has been stated before that SWFC put in a bid to buy Jimmy and were going to have it accept but the man refused to go.
Sure showed the measure of the man as a man and how intelligent he was and he took that onto the field in his play.
If you never saw him play, for whatever reason, you sure missed something, truly.

For several years, before I started going to away matches, alternate Saturdays were a choice between United Reserves and Wednesday 1st team. United Reserves usually ‘won’, but from time to time we went to see the opposition at Hillsborough. I don’t think Wednesday ever had a ‘Hagan’ worth watching. They were relatively successful, but basically a set of cloggers. Through my red and white spectacles, anyway…

 

[XH536]

I don’t recall that particular claim, but I can imagine it doing the rounds. We had watched the ‘Matthews’ Cup Final on a neighbour’s TV, and at the age of 6
I nagged my Dad into taking me to the Lane when I knew Blackpool were playing. But I have just had a look at the crowds early season (newly promoted), and the crowd for the Blackpool match of just over 35000 was actually the second lowest in the first 7 home games, which would not suggest that he had that great an impact. It had a great impact on me, though; almost 70 years on, and I haven’t lost my enthusiasm for going to the Lane.

Two or three weeks ago I watched all of the '53 final and was pleasantly surprised how good the quality of football played was.
I was on the terrace, aged 11, for your first game and memory says it was a fair day cloudy but lots of sun.
Do you remember Matthews was late coming out and when he did there was no number on his shirt.
On going to the lane, I missed second half of 61/62, the whole of 62/63 and the first half of 63/64 so two seasons in all.
I distinctly remember the first visit after that period, was WHU and standing there, pre-KO, it was just like putting on an old, comfortable overcoat, so elating.
Soon came down to earth seven days later at Hillsborough, 3-0 loss on a snow covered pitch, Doc and a young Mick Jones up front.
Couple of weeks later United away, my grandad said fancy going to see Owls V Arsenal, so off we went, we enjoyed the afternoon SWFC 0 V Arsenal 4.

 

[Tickhill Blade]

Is it true that if people found out Stanley Matthews was injured or summat?.outside the ground Bramall Lane they would walk away and not go through the turnstiles?

There was the reverse of this effect around 2011, where people heard Nosworthy was playing and turned around and went home before entering.

 

[XH536]

For several years, before I started going to away matches, alternate Saturdays were a choice between United Reserves and Wednesday 1st team. United Reserves usually ‘won’, but from time to time we went to see the opposition at Hillsborough. I don’t think Wednesday ever had a ‘Hagan’ worth watching. They were relatively successful, but basically a set of cloggers. Through my red and white spectacles, anyway…

With respect and it must be me having the five years on you but to name a couple Jackie Sewell, England international, very good player bought him from Notts County and had played at the side of Tommy Lawton there. He also played in the 3-7 Hungarian debacle, but he did score.
Albert "short shorts" Quixall, England international. As a kid hated this bloke, not knowing owt of him but the Wendies used to shove him down your throat when wound up by having 'Sir Jimmy' pushed down theirs. He was a fair player, which he showed when going to Man Utd. after Munich. Both were not the quality of James Hagan and that's with my red & white glasses off.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

With respect and it must be me having the five years on you but to name a couple Jackie Sewell, England international, very good player bought him from Notts County and had played at the side of Tommy Lawton there. He also played in the 3-7 Hungarian debacle, but he did score.
Albert "short shorts" Quixall, England international. As a kid hated this bloke, not knowing owt of him but the Wendies used to shove him down your throat when wound up by having 'Sir Jimmy' pushed down theirs. He was a fair player, which he showed when going to Man Utd. after Munich. Both were not the quality of James Hagan and that's with my red & white glasses off.

I don’t think I saw Sewell much, as he left Wednesday in 1955. I freely admit to being biased, and I am sure Wednesday have always had some footballers worthy of respect (Fantham, for example). My judgment was set in concrete during the years when we had a footballing centre-half in Joe Shaw, and they had a clogger in Peter Swan. I think a few on here identify with that contrast

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Two or three weeks ago I watched all of the '53 final and was pleasantly surprised how good the quality of football played was.
I was on the terrace, aged 11, for your first game and memory says it was a fair day cloudy but lots of sun.
Do you remember Matthews was late coming out and when he did there was no number on his shirt.
On going to the lane, I missed second half of 61/62, the whole of 62/63 and the first half of 63/64 so two seasons in all.
I distinctly remember the first visit after that period, was WHU and standing there, pre-KO, it was just like putting on an old, comfortable overcoat, so elating.
Soon came down to earth seven days later at Hillsborough, 3-0 loss on a snow covered pitch, Doc and a young Mick Jones up front.
Couple of weeks later United away, my grandad said fancy going to see Owls V Arsenal, so off we went, we enjoyed the afternoon SWFC 0 V Arsenal 4.

Will look out for the 53 Final next rainy day.
Thanks for the memories of the Blackpool match. I only have a general impression as a 6 year old standing in awe of what seemed a huge and noisy crowd. We were behind the goal at the Lane End (safer than the Kop for a kid’s first match, presumably), but I don’t have a sure memory of any happenings on the pitch.

 

[XH536]

Will look out for the 53 Final next rainy day.
Thanks for the memories of the Blackpool match. I only have a general impression as a 6 year old standing in awe of what seemed a huge and noisy crowd. We were behind the goal at the Lane End (safer than the Kop for a kid’s first match, presumably), but I don’t have a sure memory of any happenings on the pitch.

Presumably you were at the railing so I must have seen you.
We used to go on the 'Terrace' just to the left of the players entrance looking from the pitch.
I'm still in the same place now with the help of my grandson, god bless him.

 

[XH536]

I don’t think I saw Sewell much, as he left Wednesday in 1955. I freely admit to being biased, and I am sure Wednesday have always had some footballers worthy of respect (Fantham, for example). My judgment was set in concrete during the years when we had a footballing centre-half in Joe Shaw, and they had a clogger in Peter Swan. I think a few on here identify with that contrast

Peter Swan!!!! Alus on his arse , my impression of him.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Presumably you were at the railing so I must have seen you.
We used to go on the 'Terrace' just to the left of the players entrance looking from the pitch.
I'm still in the same place now with the help of my grandson, god bless him.

If there’s one thing that life has taught me, it is that to have shared interests with your kids and grandkids is a wonderful thing. Even beats winning trophies

 

[reedy63]

I never saw Jimmy Hagan play before my time. my late dad told me on several occasions Jimmy Hagen was the best player he has ever seen play for United. He liked Joe Shaw as well. Tony Currie best player for me.Alan Woodward is not far behind.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I never saw Jimmy Hagan play before my time. my late dad told me on several occasions Jimmy Hagen was the best player he has ever seen play for United. He liked Joe Shaw as well. Tony Currie best player for me.Alan Woodward is not far behind.

You come from a family with good taste. I was a bit too young to appreciate Hagan, and he was perhaps past his best. His skills with the ball were very apparent. And when I was on my way to the local park with a real football (size 4, best Xmas present ever), the local Bobby on the beat used to call me ‘Hagan’. He clearly never saw me try to kick the ball

 

[HarryHaslam]

 

[St Albans Blade]

Not an oldie but apparently a game of Rugby League threatened to break out at Carrow Road on Saturday?!?

 

[ancientblade]

Two or three weeks ago I watched all of the '53 final and was pleasantly surprised how good the quality of football played was.
I was on the terrace, aged 11, for your first game and memory says it was a fair day cloudy but lots of sun.
Do you remember Matthews was late coming out and when he did there was no number on his shirt.
On going to the lane, I missed second half of 61/62, the whole of 62/63 and the first half of 63/64 so two seasons in all.
I distinctly remember the first visit after that period, was WHU and standing there, pre-KO, it was just like putting on an old, comfortable overcoat, so elating.
Soon came down to earth seven days later at Hillsborough, 3-0 loss on a snow covered pitch, Doc and a young Mick Jones up front.
Couple of weeks later United away, my grandad said fancy going to see Owls V Arsenal, so off we went, we enjoyed the afternoon SWFC 0 V Arsenal 4.

can remember that 3 - 0 defeat at hillsborough if memory serves me correct wasnt it a snowy frosty pitch that day ? mind got our revenge the year after with shermans 2 goals in a 2 - 0 win there played in all white anall

 

[Cappy]

Not an oldie but apparently a game of Rugby League threatened to break out at Carrow Road on Saturday?!?

McBurnie is clearly holding him darn. Can’t speyk!

 

[Silent Blade]

can remember that 3 - 0 defeat at hillsborough if memory serves me correct wasnt it a snowy frosty pitch that day ? mind got our revenge the year after with shermans 2 goals in a 2 - 0 win there played in all white anall

January and September 1964

 

[XH536]

can remember that 3 - 0 defeat at hillsborough if memory serves me correct wasnt it a snowy frosty pitch that day ? mind got our revenge the year after with shermans 2 goals in a 2 - 0 win there played in all white anall

Yes, snowy and frosty and BLOODY cold for a lad who had returned (29 Dec '63) from two years in warmer climes.
Like you I remember the Wednesday match but looking at fixtures, United played WHU the previous week. I have no recollection of that game.
Week after the Owls defeat Blades played at Liverpool, lost 6-1, so being away mi grandad and I went back to Hillsborough again and saw Arsenal bounce Owls 0-4.

 

[DifferentClass]

Not an oldie but apparently a game of Rugby League threatened to break out at Carrow Road on Saturday?!?

I thought it was more an Olympic diving contest, surely!

 

[St Albans Blade]

I thought it was more an Olympic diving contest, surely!

 

[XH536]

Courtesy of fb

 

[XH536]

Struggling to identify this Blades player.
Curser on photo should give year and game. ta.
Thank You in advance.

 

[Silent Blade]

Struggling to identify this Blades player.
Curser on photo should give year and game. ta.
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David Munks and Brian Dear