email from club - NO MORE TICKETS ON SALE IN KOP - standing & wrong seat usage

[bartman]

The club is losing money. so you would have thought they would do summat so tickets can be sold again.

That's what they are doing now...trying to show the situation can be managed. However ,SAG may decide to limited the capacity of the Kop anyway so it can be managed safely

 

[reedy63]

Doing what fans are still standing in the wrong areas.so if the club rather lose money then where does that leave us?
The capacity of the kop would be announced just at the end of the season. you would think.

 

[JJBlade]

Feel free to leave lad, reckon it’d be less of a ‘backwards shithole’ if you did

If I didn't live here I wouldn't be qualified to comment, would I ?
I have never said I hated Sheffield, I said the place is a backward toilet, because it is. As a Sheffielder I am qualified to say that.
And I have left Sheffield a couple of times to work long term in different parts of the country, which is another reason why I can comment.

Sheffield was once a city that could be classed as a major city as far as the UK goes, it was right up there with Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool at one time, and now it isn't.

It isn't on a par with any of them anymore thanks to the most backward, moronic bunch of fucking idiots the planet has ever seen being allowed to run it into the ground.

You can think what you like about Sheffield, if you think it's amazing, fine.
It's a shame business decision makers don't think it's fine, it's a shame top quality retailers, restaurants, bars and other leisure companies don't think it's fine, one or two mid range retail or leisure outlets might give it a go for a couple of years, but it never succeeds.
It's a shame footballers given the choice of United or somewhere else, for the same money would choose somewhere else.
It's a shame the general public don't think it's a place they would like to visit. Are they all wrong?

5th largest city in the UK, should surely have the 5th largest tourist activity in terms of City breaks, errrr, no, sorry, it's not even in the top 100
5th largest city in the UK should surely have the 5th busiest train station excluding London stations, errrr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it's not even in the top 40.
5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest airport, again excluding London airports, errr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it doesn't have an airport, we've tried twice with this venture if you include Doncaster/Sheffield airport and it's failed both times because nobody wants to come here.

the 5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest road network, a good motorway network, errr, no, it doesn't. A traffic jam in Simpleton Sheffield means there's three cars ahead of them at a roundabout.

The Cities of Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool (Sheffield's historic peers) have left Sheffield behind by a million years, they are the Cities that Sheffield should have been keeping up with.
And now we have the indignation of seeing traditionally secondary cities like Newcastle, Nottingham, Bristol, Southampton, Brighton, and Leicester, leaving it behind as well

 

[Mike325]

Just learn to sit down in your own seat .... doh!

Beyond some peoples capabilities pal ruining it for all

 

[Mike325]

If I didn't live here I wouldn't be qualified to comment, would I ?
I have never said I hated Sheffield, I said the place is a backward toilet, because it is. As a Sheffielder I am qualified to say that.
And I have left Sheffield a couple of times to work long term in different parts of the country, which is another reason why I can comment.

Sheffield was once a city that could be classed as a major city as far as the UK goes, it was right up there with Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool at one time, and now it isn't.

It isn't on a par with any of them anymore thanks to the most backward, moronic bunch of fucking idiots the planet has ever seen being allowed to run it into the ground.

You can think what you like about Sheffield, if you think it's amazing, fine.
It's a shame business decision makers don't think it's fine, it's a shame top quality retailers, restaurants, bars and other leisure companies don't think it's fine, one or two mid range retail or leisure outlets might give it a go for a couple of years, but it never succeeds.
It's a shame footballers given the choice of United or somewhere else, for the same money would choose somewhere else.
It's a shame the general public don't think it's a place they would like to visit. Are they all wrong?

5th largest city in the UK, should surely have the 5th largest tourist activity in terms of City breaks, errrr, no, sorry, it's not even in the top 100
5th largest city in the UK should surely have the 5th busiest train station excluding London stations, errrr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it's not even in the top 40.
5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest airport, again excluding London airports, errr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it doesn't have an airport, we've tried twice with this venture if you include Doncaster/Sheffield airport and it's failed both times because nobody wants to come here.

the 5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest road network, a good motorway network, errr, no, it doesn't. A traffic jam in Simpleton Sheffield means there's three cars ahead of them at a roundabout.

The Cities of Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool (Sheffield's historic peers) have left Sheffield behind by a million years, they are the Cities that Sheffield should have been keeping up with.
And now we have the indignation of seeing traditionally secondary cities like Newcastle, Nottingham, Bristol, Southampton, Brighton, and Leicester, leaving it behind as well

Why post a message as long as that

To long to read your not writing a story mate

 

[Mike325]

Am I right in thinking Sheffield city council ordered united not to sell tickets on the kop?

Your spot on

 

[Mike325]

Yes, including things that aren't Manchester.

Manchester's biggest success has been the formation of "Greater Manchester"
It was just accepted by all the towns and cities that together they'd be stronger.

West Yorkshire is "Greater Leeds" even if it has not been made official yet, but it will become "Greater Leeds" soon. And it will be accepted by all the other towns and cities because it will make the whole region even stronger

It could have happened here by merging, Rotherham, Barnsley, Doncaster, Chesterfield and Worksop, and have Sheffield at it's epicentre but of course it would be objected to, by those that aren't in Sheffield.

Most Barnsley people would rather become a part of a Greater Leeds than a Greater Sheffield, such is their hatred for Sheffield

Most Chesterfield and Worksop people would rather be a part of Greater Nottingham than Greater Sheffield, such is their hatred for Sheffield.

And most people in the Peak District towns would rather become a part of Greater Manchester too.

And all this in spite of having a "S" Postcode.

Mate Manchester has highest suicides poverty rates you name it.

 

[bartman]

Doing what fans are still standing in the wrong areas.so if the club rather lose money then where does that leave us?
The capacity of the kop would be announced just at the end of the season. you would think.

The main issues are was fans blocking gangways and several fans to a seat as opposed to fans standing.

If fans went to their allocated seat, or a spare seat, there wouldn't have been an issue.

I am fully expecting our capacity ( i.e. sellable tickets) to be reduced due to pressure from the SAG ( hopefully i am wrong)

 

[Gerritforud]

If I didn't live here I wouldn't be qualified to comment, would I ?
I have never said I hated Sheffield, I said the place is a backward toilet, because it is. As a Sheffielder I am qualified to say that.
And I have left Sheffield a couple of times to work long term in different parts of the country, which is another reason why I can comment.

Sheffield was once a city that could be classed as a major city as far as the UK goes, it was right up there with Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool at one time, and now it isn't.

It isn't on a par with any of them anymore thanks to the most backward, moronic bunch of fucking idiots the planet has ever seen being allowed to run it into the ground.

You can think what you like about Sheffield, if you think it's amazing, fine.
It's a shame business decision makers don't think it's fine, it's a shame top quality retailers, restaurants, bars and other leisure companies don't think it's fine, one or two mid range retail or leisure outlets might give it a go for a couple of years, but it never succeeds.
It's a shame footballers given the choice of United or somewhere else, for the same money would choose somewhere else.
It's a shame the general public don't think it's a place they would like to visit. Are they all wrong?

5th largest city in the UK, should surely have the 5th largest tourist activity in terms of City breaks, errrr, no, sorry, it's not even in the top 100
5th largest city in the UK should surely have the 5th busiest train station excluding London stations, errrr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it's not even in the top 40.
5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest airport, again excluding London airports, errr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it doesn't have an airport, we've tried twice with this venture if you include Doncaster/Sheffield airport and it's failed both times because nobody wants to come here.

the 5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest road network, a good motorway network, errr, no, it doesn't. A traffic jam in Simpleton Sheffield means there's three cars ahead of them at a roundabout.

The Cities of Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool (Sheffield's historic peers) have left Sheffield behind by a million years, they are the Cities that Sheffield should have been keeping up with.
And now we have the indignation of seeing traditionally secondary cities like Newcastle, Nottingham, Bristol, Southampton, Brighton, and Leicester, leaving it behind as well

https://www.geonames.org/GB/largest-cities-in-united-kingdom.html 4th largest.
I don't want an airport, our skies are clear and noise free! Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool all have higher pollution, crime and poverty rates. It's clear you hate our City and club. Do us all a favour...

 

[JJBlade]

Mate Manchester has highest suicides poverty rates you name it.

And New York, London, Los Angeles, Paris and Tokyo have higher rates than Manchester

Does that make Sheffield better than all of them

 

[JJBlade]

https://www.geonames.org/GB/largest-cities-in-united-kingdom.html 4th largest.
I don't want an airport, our skies are clear and noise free! Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool all have higher pollution, crime and poverty rates. It's clear you hate our City and club. Do us all a favour...

That table is about the most inaccurate I've ever seen

Leicester bigger than Leeds.... No

Liverpool bigger than Manchester..... No

Leeds smaller than Sheffield ....No

I do not hate Sheffield at all, just the idiots that have destroyed it

But destroyed it they have, and now its a toilet

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

If I didn't live here I wouldn't be qualified to comment, would I ?
I have never said I hated Sheffield, I said the place is a backward toilet, because it is. As a Sheffielder I am qualified to say that.
And I have left Sheffield a couple of times to work long term in different parts of the country, which is another reason why I can comment.

Sheffield was once a city that could be classed as a major city as far as the UK goes, it was right up there with Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool at one time, and now it isn't.

It isn't on a par with any of them anymore thanks to the most backward, moronic bunch of fucking idiots the planet has ever seen being allowed to run it into the ground.

You can think what you like about Sheffield, if you think it's amazing, fine.
It's a shame business decision makers don't think it's fine, it's a shame top quality retailers, restaurants, bars and other leisure companies don't think it's fine, one or two mid range retail or leisure outlets might give it a go for a couple of years, but it never succeeds.
It's a shame footballers given the choice of United or somewhere else, for the same money would choose somewhere else.
It's a shame the general public don't think it's a place they would like to visit. Are they all wrong?

5th largest city in the UK, should surely have the 5th largest tourist activity in terms of City breaks, errrr, no, sorry, it's not even in the top 100
5th largest city in the UK should surely have the 5th busiest train station excluding London stations, errrr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it's not even in the top 40.
5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest airport, again excluding London airports, errr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it doesn't have an airport, we've tried twice with this venture if you include Doncaster/Sheffield airport and it's failed both times because nobody wants to come here.

the 5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest road network, a good motorway network, errr, no, it doesn't. A traffic jam in Simpleton Sheffield means there's three cars ahead of them at a roundabout.

The Cities of Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool (Sheffield's historic peers) have left Sheffield behind by a million years, they are the Cities that Sheffield should have been keeping up with.
And now we have the indignation of seeing traditionally secondary cities like Newcastle, Nottingham, Bristol, Southampton, Brighton, and Leicester, leaving it behind as well

Don't see owt wrong with that tbh. Granted, I don't travel outside Sheffield a lot. Never lived outside of Sheffield. I just see Sheffield City centre as an absolute eyesore shit hole but as above, don't really have many comparisons.

I think people staunchly defending Sheffield are doing so because they live here rather than looking at it objectively.

 

[Mike325]

And New York, London, Los Angeles, Paris and Tokyo have higher rates than Manchester

Does that make Sheffield better than all of them

Absofuckinglutely pal don’t need to ask that question

 

[BushBlade]

https://www.geonames.org/GB/largest-cities-in-united-kingdom.html 4th largest.
I don't want an airport, our skies are clear and noise free! Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool all have higher pollution, crime and poverty rates. It's clear you hate our City and club. Do us all a favour...

It’s a bit irrelevant, the size of the “City”. It’s about urban areas, what we called in Geography “conurbations”. For example, Manchester, which is really two cities, Manchester and Salford, with small towns tacked on, like Stockport. Individually not as big as Sheffield but to all intents and purposes, just a huge urban sprawl.
It’s the size of the urban sprawl that matters, along with density and income/wealth per head. They’re the things that determine how well a “city” functions, how it’s economy works.
The idea that Sheffield ever rivalled the urban area of “Manchester” is risible. It was a very wealthy city, particularly after the ship canal was built, more comparable to London in the Victorian era than Sheffield. Similarly, Liverpool was a wealthy city with financial services based around shipping and the docks. The whole area between Liverpool and Manchester is pretty densely populated, similar only to the south east and the West Midlands.
Plenty of worse places to live than Sheffield though, if you accept it for what it is, the good and the bad.

 

[Booker4]

If I didn't live here I wouldn't be qualified to comment, would I ?
I have never said I hated Sheffield, I said the place is a backward toilet, because it is. As a Sheffielder I am qualified to say that.
And I have left Sheffield a couple of times to work long term in different parts of the country, which is another reason why I can comment.

Sheffield was once a city that could be classed as a major city as far as the UK goes, it was right up there with Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool at one time, and now it isn't.

It isn't on a par with any of them anymore thanks to the most backward, moronic bunch of fucking idiots the planet has ever seen being allowed to run it into the ground.

You can think what you like about Sheffield, if you think it's amazing, fine.
It's a shame business decision makers don't think it's fine, it's a shame top quality retailers, restaurants, bars and other leisure companies don't think it's fine, one or two mid range retail or leisure outlets might give it a go for a couple of years, but it never succeeds.
It's a shame footballers given the choice of United or somewhere else, for the same money would choose somewhere else.
It's a shame the general public don't think it's a place they would like to visit. Are they all wrong?

5th largest city in the UK, should surely have the 5th largest tourist activity in terms of City breaks, errrr, no, sorry, it's not even in the top 100
5th largest city in the UK should surely have the 5th busiest train station excluding London stations, errrr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it's not even in the top 40.
5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest airport, again excluding London airports, errr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it doesn't have an airport, we've tried twice with this venture if you include Doncaster/Sheffield airport and it's failed both times because nobody wants to come here.

the 5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest road network, a good motorway network, errr, no, it doesn't. A traffic jam in Simpleton Sheffield means there's three cars ahead of them at a roundabout.

The Cities of Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool (Sheffield's historic peers) have left Sheffield behind by a million years, they are the Cities that Sheffield should have been keeping up with.
And now we have the indignation of seeing traditionally secondary cities like Newcastle, Nottingham, Bristol, Southampton, Brighton, and Leicester, leaving it behind as well

I've read a few of your posts JJ and this one and there's some truth in what you say, but a lot I don't agree with and much of your posts are merely your opinion and that's fine, but not factually backed up. Stuff like we should have Greater Sheffield for example is just laughable. I've seen a few posts from others blaming everything on Sheffield Council which I think is harsh and a very simplified opinion because there are reasons beyond the Council why Leeds and Manchester are more prosperous but neither does that mean that Sheffield is backwards or a craphole as you put it. Leeds and Manchester are much bigger cities population wise, and please refrain from saying Manchester isn't because Manchester sprawls without countryside into areas which are part of Greater Manchester such as Trafford where the Trafford Centre is. Sheffield is separated from neighbouring towns with their own identity, bar Rotherham.

Sheffield is different to Leeds and Manchester and for me that is it's appeal. It isn't as sexy or high profile as Manchester or Leeds, it does have a feel of a big town over a city and that is what I love about it. It's the greenest city in Europe, it's got a superb location to the Peak District and contrary to what you think Sheffield has received substantial investment in the 21st century as anyone can see. You've also got Hallam which is the richest area outside London.

I think the attached article sums up well why Sheffield has lagged behind Leeds as an example in terms of economy and is worth a read.

Some thoughts on why Sheffield’s economy has struggled - CityMonitor

After reading how surprisingly good Liverpool’s economic growth has been over the last 20 years and then why Leeds was…

citymonitor.ai

 

[alcoblade]

Don't see owt wrong with that tbh. Granted, I don't travel outside Sheffield a lot. Never lived outside of Sheffield. I just see Sheffield City centre as an absolute eyesore shit hole but as above, don't really have many comparisons.

I think people staunchly defending Sheffield are doing so because they live here rather than looking at it objectively.

There aren’t many staunchly defending Sheffield that I can see. It’s obviously got lots of challenges. And lots of areas that need great improvement. It’s also got lots of positives.

That’s different to running it and its’ inhabitants down at every opportunity, like this person is obsessed with doing.

 

[JJBlade]

I've read a few of your posts JJ and this one and there's some truth in what you say, but a lot I don't agree with and much of your posts are merely your opinion and that's fine, but not factually backed up. Stuff like we should have Greater Sheffield for example is just laughable. I've seen a few posts from others blaming everything on Sheffield Council which I think is harsh and a very simplified opinion because there are reasons beyond the Council why Leeds and Manchester are more prosperous but neither does that mean that Sheffield is backwards or a craphole as you put it. Leeds and Manchester are much bigger cities population wise, and please refrain from saying Manchester isn't because Manchester sprawls without countryside into areas which are part of Greater Manchester such as Trafford where the Trafford Centre is. Sheffield is separated from neighbouring towns with their own identity, bar Rotherham.

Sheffield is different to Leeds and Manchester and for me that is it's appeal. It isn't as sexy or high profile as Manchester or Leeds, it does have a feel of a big town over a city and that is what I love about it. It's the greenest city in Europe, it's got a superb location to the Peak District and contrary to what you think Sheffield has received substantial investment in the 21st century as anyone can see. You've also got Hallam which is the richest area outside London.

I think the attached article sums up well why Sheffield has lagged behind Leeds as an example in terms of economy and is worth a read.

Some thoughts on why Sheffield’s economy has struggled - CityMonitor

After reading how surprisingly good Liverpool’s economic growth has been over the last 20 years and then why Leeds was…

citymonitor.ai

It is the planning that has gone into other cities that has left Sheffield standing.

Yes, Sheffield was comparable to Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds.

Those cities have an industrial past, and their economies were built on textiles, Mills, Docks, and engineering.

The populations of those cities changed, learned new skills and then attracted further investment in the financial and technology sectors

Sheffield is now only comparable via population, but in every other way it has fallen behind.

But population is very important, like the major cities in this country, the only reason China and India's economies have climbed massively up the rankings is an enormous population.
But more importantly a massive population that were willing to change and learn skills.

I said in a previous post that part of Sheffield's and the regions problem is unwillingness to change. The steelworks and mines closed down and it was begging bowl out time.

Ensuring that further development in infrastructure and industry never happened

 

[alcoblade]

It is the planning that has gone into other cities that has left Sheffield standing.

Yes, Sheffield was comparable to Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds.

Those cities have an industrial past, and their economies were built on textiles, Mills, Docks, and engineering.

The populations of those cities changed, learned new skills and then attracted further investment in the financial and technology sectors

Sheffield is now only comparable via population, but in every other way it has fallen behind.

But population is very important, like the major cities in this country, the only reason China and India's economies have climbed massively up the rankings is an enormous population.
But more importantly a massive population that were willing to change and learn skills.

I said in a previous post that part of Sheffield's and the regions problem is unwillingness to change. The steelworks and mines closed down and it was begging bowl out time.

Ensuring that further development in infrastructure and industry never happened

What’s this begging bowl you keep referring to?

 

[BushBlade]

I've read a few of your posts JJ and this one and there's some truth in what you say, but a lot I don't agree with and much of your posts are merely your opinion and that's fine, but not factually backed up. Stuff like we should have Greater Sheffield for example is just laughable. I've seen a few posts from others blaming everything on Sheffield Council which I think is harsh and a very simplified opinion because there are reasons beyond the Council why Leeds and Manchester are more prosperous but neither does that mean that Sheffield is backwards or a craphole as you put it. Leeds and Manchester are much bigger cities population wise, and please refrain from saying Manchester isn't because Manchester sprawls without countryside into areas which are part of Greater Manchester such as Trafford where the Trafford Centre is. Sheffield is separated from neighbouring towns with their own identity, bar Rotherham.

Sheffield is different to Leeds and Manchester and for me that is it's appeal. It isn't as sexy or high profile as Manchester or Leeds, it does have a feel of a big town over a city and that is what I love about it. It's the greenest city in Europe, it's got a superb location to the Peak District and contrary to what you think Sheffield has received substantial investment in the 21st century as anyone can see. You've also got Hallam which is the richest area outside London.

I think the attached article sums up well why Sheffield has lagged behind Leeds as an example in terms of economy and is worth a read.

Some thoughts on why Sheffield’s economy has struggled - CityMonitor

After reading how surprisingly good Liverpool’s economic growth has been over the last 20 years and then why Leeds was…

citymonitor.ai

It’s a good article but Meadowhall isn’t in Rotherham is it?

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

If I didn't live here I wouldn't be qualified to comment, would I ?
I have never said I hated Sheffield, I said the place is a backward toilet, because it is. As a Sheffielder I am qualified to say that.
And I have left Sheffield a couple of times to work long term in different parts of the country, which is another reason why I can comment.

Sheffield was once a city that could be classed as a major city as far as the UK goes, it was right up there with Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool at one time, and now it isn't.

It isn't on a par with any of them anymore thanks to the most backward, moronic bunch of fucking idiots the planet has ever seen being allowed to run it into the ground.

You can think what you like about Sheffield, if you think it's amazing, fine.
It's a shame business decision makers don't think it's fine, it's a shame top quality retailers, restaurants, bars and other leisure companies don't think it's fine, one or two mid range retail or leisure outlets might give it a go for a couple of years, but it never succeeds.
It's a shame footballers given the choice of United or somewhere else, for the same money would choose somewhere else.
It's a shame the general public don't think it's a place they would like to visit. Are they all wrong?

5th largest city in the UK, should surely have the 5th largest tourist activity in terms of City breaks, errrr, no, sorry, it's not even in the top 100
5th largest city in the UK should surely have the 5th busiest train station excluding London stations, errrr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it's not even in the top 40.
5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest airport, again excluding London airports, errr, no, sorry, no fucker wants to come here so it doesn't have an airport, we've tried twice with this venture if you include Doncaster/Sheffield airport and it's failed both times because nobody wants to come here.

the 5th largest city in the UK should have the 5th busiest road network, a good motorway network, errr, no, it doesn't. A traffic jam in Simpleton Sheffield means there's three cars ahead of them at a roundabout.

The Cities of Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool (Sheffield's historic peers) have left Sheffield behind by a million years, they are the Cities that Sheffield should have been keeping up with.
And now we have the indignation of seeing traditionally secondary cities like Newcastle, Nottingham, Bristol, Southampton, Brighton, and Leicester, leaving it behind as well

not reading your dissertation

 

[Booker4]

Just wondering, back to the original subject, if there's any news on when this ban will be lifted? I recall also that it hadn't been insisted on by the Council but United did it to "stop parts of the ground from being closed" but in fact that's exactly what we've got, albeit not for kop season ticket holders. The way I see it is that surely the club will only know whether it needs to continue with the ban if they re-open the Kop as before to see if the previous ban has had an effect? Just by continuing the ban doesn't prove that the Kop can function as normal. In essence, is it not time to re-open the Kop fully and see how we do? Maybe the club don't have control over this, not sure.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

And New York, London, Los Angeles, Paris and Tokyo have higher rates than Manchester

Does that make Sheffield better than all of them

What about Munich ?

 

[HVR]

What are the attendance figures though since we did this? I suppose it all depends on the away contingent and what the opposition is. A home game against the Owls in an FA Cup Round would be a complete sell-out (minus the 2,000 unsold Kop tickets) - but has there been a sudden 2,000 ticket drop in attendance since this was brought in?
2000 x £35 every match is a lot of money, but if 1,500 who would have gone on the Kop buy elsewhere in the ground, that's not quite as bad.
Maybe SUFC have not lost that much - and have decided that the cost, time effort to resolve this is not worth it for this season, as ticket sales in other parts of the ground have offset a reduction in the Kop.
Also, SAG has accepted this current action as a positive step by us and decided not to investigate further - and so it will remain like this until the end of the season.
Only my opinion based on assumptions!

 

[Broomhall Blade]

A "backwards shithole" think that is harsh in the extreme. It's got the highest or one of the highest student retention rates so there must be something that people like about the place! I would say Sheffield is a vibrant city and a fantastic place to live, and it's come on leaps and bounds in the last twenty years or so and took a massive hit in the 1980's which the likes of Leeds and Manchester didn't because they weren't reliant on industry like Sheffield does and the loss of coal and steel obviously was a huge blow to the city, with little to no interest in a backup plan. If you're looking at idiots then look at this present government and it's total mismanagement of the country and continual bias towards the south-east and trickle down economics, not to mention its utter incompetence on various well known levels.

We should be shouting from the rooftops how great Sheffield is in my view.

I agree Sheffield won't be selected as a world cup venue, but I would say that's mainly because location wise we're close to Manchester and Leeds and they're always going to prefer Leeds and Manchester as they're bigger cities with bigger grounds.

I think the highest or one of highest Student retention rates is a myth Sheffield doesn't make the top 10.
Plenty of Northern ones do though Glasgow, Leeds, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Sunderland.

 

[Digs blade]

Just wondering, back to the original subject, if there's any news on when this ban will be lifted? I recall also that it hadn't been insisted on by the Council but United did it to "stop parts of the ground from being closed" but in fact that's exactly what we've got, albeit not for kop season ticket holders. The way I see it is that surely the club will only know whether it needs to continue with the ban if they re-open the Kop as before to see if the previous ban has had an effect? Just by continuing the ban doesn't prove that the Kop can function as normal. In essence, is it not time to re-open the Kop fully and see how we do? Maybe the club don't have control over this, not sure.

I agree and this has been my concern. How are the club going to measure whether the non-selling of tickets has solved the problem or are they content to keep it like this forevermore

 

[Digs blade]

What are the attendance figures though since we did this? I suppose it all depends on the away contingent and what the opposition is. A home game against the Owls in an FA Cup Round would be a complete sell-out (minus the 2,000 unsold Kop tickets) - but has there been a sudden 2,000 ticket drop in attendance since this was brought in?
2000 x £35 every match is a lot of money, but if 1,500 who would have gone on the Kop buy elsewhere in the ground, that's not quite as bad.
Maybe SUFC have not lost that much - and have decided that the cost, time effort to resolve this is not worth it for this season, as ticket sales in other parts of the ground have offset a reduction in the Kop.
Also, SAG has accepted this current action as a positive step by us and decided not to investigate further - and so it will remain like this until the end of the season.
Only my opinion based on assumptions!

The silence from the club on this matter is really disappointing. It’s been around 2 months now and nothing since the original statement

 

[jt64]

I agree and this has been my concern. How are the club going to measure whether the non-selling of tickets has solved the problem

There's a simple way to check - are there still dickheads causing safety issues?

 

[Digs blade]

Not that I’m aware of. Do you think differently

 

[Working Class Hero]

It is the planning that has gone into other cities that has left Sheffield standing.

Yes, Sheffield was comparable to Manchester, Liverpool and Leeds.

Those cities have an industrial past, and their economies were built on textiles, Mills, Docks, and engineering.

The populations of those cities changed, learned new skills and then attracted further investment in the financial and technology sectors

Sheffield is now only comparable via population, but in every other way it has fallen behind.

But population is very important, like the major cities in this country, the only reason China and India's economies have climbed massively up the rankings is an enormous population.
But more importantly a massive population that were willing to change and learn skills.

I said in a previous post that part of Sheffield's and the regions problem is unwillingness to change. The steelworks and mines closed down and it was begging bowl out time.

Ensuring that further development in infrastructure and industry never happened

Manchester (which will never be comparable anyway) and Leeds are obviously ahead, but not sure about Liverpool. It has a very similar sized economy but is less wealthy than Sheffield, and it certainly shows outside the centre. Liverpool's City Centre certainly looks nicer but that's where it ends really, and Sheffield is trying to catch up on that front.

I keep seeing Nottingham mentioned as "leaving Sheffield behind" as well, which must just be typical Sheffield pessimism, because Sheffield is well ahead of Nottingham on most things.

The citizens and councils of Sheffield do have a lot to answer for though, as it should be a lot further ahead than it is.

 

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I think the highest or one of highest Student retention rates is a myth Sheffield doesn't make the top 10.

Yes it is, along with Donny Airport being a designated space shuttle landing site, seven hills, England's / Britain's 4th biggest city, greenest city in Europe etc etc. All bollocks.