Hecky out

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Keen Blade said:
To get back to the thread title of 'Hecky out' , I hope he is out.
Out looking for a loan CB to cover for Egan.
I can't see anyone to slot in there.
Our biggest vulnerability at the moment is losing Egan , whether to Leeds , to injury or to suspension.
I certainly don't want to lose Anel's attacking prowess by making him CCB.
Bash is not a CCB nor is RND.
My instinct would be Lopata but he isn't even in the squad.
So get out Hecky + loan us a CCB.
Unless Clark is suitable + already fit.
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I have said elsewhere that I don’t think Egan is the problem.

Yes, he could get injured or suspended, (hopefully not). We still have the resources to cope with that problem within the current squad.
Egan- sold? Unlikely given his recent performances. The answer might come from a reshuffle when all our current injured assets return. Bogle JLT, Clark, Osborn, Stevens etc

That’s without the possible return to the squad of Lopata. Again, an unlikely but possible scenario.

There non decisions should be left to the management team. IMO of course. 😄
 



FallowfieldBlade said:
It’s a variation of 3-5-2 as I have just said

The only reason we are playing with overlapping wing backs and playing that formation is down to CW

FACTS
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I suspect that your claiming that as a fact could be in error. PH and the wider club ownership under United World, have determined that the Jokaovic changes were not working, and could not be achieved without serious investment.
The pragmatic choice of the Blades board, was to elect PH as the future manager of football. In addition to making the best use of current players who were comfortable with a back 3, PH must be given credit for adapting that system, and using his well earned reputation for youth development to play football in a sustainable way regarding finance.

To the non football board, this meant doing the impossible with no money. What did PH do? He trimmed the squad of players who didn’t fit. He adapted the strengths of the current system by adapting that basic 3 man defence system to the players available. He achieved such impressive results last season, that his reputation was enhanced by the development of MGW, and the qualification for the play offs last season.

His additions to the squad are proving that his management and perception are proving very sound.

I will remind you that Wilder enjoyed the option of a hefty player budget following his first successful season in the PL. Hecky has been able to do more with less. We now have a squad with players on the bench who frighten opposition managers. That is down to PH, not money.

Of course it’s still early days yet, but considering we now have one player who was identified as far back as November 2021, proves two things.

1. Change is not instantaneous.
2. We now have a squad that is exciting and playing with a smile on their faces.

Ask any of our current players who have played for both managers, who is improving them and getting the best out of this frighteningly excellent squad!?
 
One of Heckyballs biggest improvements is the pace that we move the ball forward, this is crucial to getting the best out of our strikers and is also much better to watch than the last season in the Prem and Slavs era where we passed it aimlessly sideways.
There are bits on the training videos from Portugal that show him introducing this style and telling the players it was going to be a key focus so huge credit to him for that.

I think both Hecky and Wilder are very different so difficult to say who’s better.

Wilder greatest strength was man-management and he dragged us up by sheer force of personality, refusing to accept mediocrity.
However, he was also far more emotional, this was fine when things were going well but caused huge issues when the going got tough. He also in my opinion lost his humbleness which caused him to make some bad decisions.
Knill was the tactics geek and did a great job of it.

Hecky is more of a modern-style manager, studious on tactics and all the other elements associated with running a modern football club and thoroughly professional with the media and so on.
He’s done a huge amount to prepare himself for his career in management and maybe we promoted him at just the right time.
 
Charlieblade said:
I have said elsewhere that I don’t think Egan is the problem.

Yes, he could get injured or suspended, (hopefully not). We still have the resources to cope with that problem within the current squad.
Egan- sold? Unlikely given his recent performances. The answer might come from a reshuffle when all our current injured assets return. Bogle JLT, Clark, Osborn, Stevens etc

That’s without the possible return to the squad of Lopata. Again, an unlikely but possible scenario.

There non decisions should be left to the management team. IMO of course. 😄
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We've lost Lopata now.
If Egan gets injured tomorrow , who is your choice to replace him on Sunday ?
 
Keen Blade said:
We've lost Lopata now.
If Egan gets injured tomorrow , who is your choice to replace him on Sunday ?
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Asked and answered!
1. Egan is not yet injured
2. Reshuffle
3. Basham and Anel both have to play (how sad is that)

I am not the manager so I don’t have to make that choice. :)
 
Fucking hell. even with our injured players unavailable we have a squad most other teams are truly jealous of. Yeah it's vulnerable in places if w get injuries, but we don't have a bottomless pit of money.
At our level you'll always have vulnerabilities if this, if that happens, but how many players can you have on the wage billl just in case?
 
The bench looks so strong even with all the injuries. When they start to come back we're gonna have to rotate the bench. We have so many options now before and in game. Pace, power and flair. The average age is also low. We have a hell of lot of young players, that are gonna get better and better.
 
Bar wanky frank i don't really have a go at other posters, because everyone is entitled to an opinion. But i hope going forward people treat this ass hole with the distain he deserves, at every opportunity, for shit threads like this.
 
knowsnowt said:
Fucking hell. even with our injured players unavailable we have a squad most other teams are truly jealous of. Yeah it's vulnerable in places if w get injuries, but we don't have a bottomless pit of money.
At our level you'll always have vulnerabilities if this, if that happens, but how many players can you have on the wage billl just in case?
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Fucking he'll.
Lopata was already on the wage bill and costing the square root of fuck all.
 



Keen Blade said:
Fucking he'll.
Lopata was already on the wage bill and costing the square root of fuck all.
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We lost him, but kept everyone else bar Lankshear.
Would you rather we'd kept those and lost one of our big hiters McCabe stylee?
We don't have a bottomless pit of cash!
If this is all we have to get angry about in transfer windows i'll take it.
 
knowsnowt said:
We lost him, but kept everyone else bar Lankshear.
Would you rather we'd kept those and lost one of our big hiters McCabe stylee?
We don't have a bottomless pit of cash!
If this is all we have to get angry about in transfer windows i'll take it.
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Not angry at all.
Just a sale that didn't need to be made at this time.
Against a background of so many injuries.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Genuine question. Do you watch the games?
Our tactics aren't like how Wilder set us up aside from the fact we play a central 3 at the back.

Wilder didn't play 1 up front, he didn't play 2 support players sat behind and we're not playing it with the same approach.
Hecky has positively evolved the formation Wilder's favoured which is something Chris didn't do. He fell back to a flat 3, albeit to protect against better sides, but no Wilder side was as expansive as the team going into the end of last season, nor the one which has started this season.
The season stats will play this out but at the moment this team is more exciting, quicker on the attack, more expansive and more offensive.

That's not to say it's more effective or even better but our approach and setup isn't the same as Wilder, aside from 3 at the back.
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Wilder went with a flat midfield three which largely suppressed out attacking intent. What Hecky has done is try in the main to stick with two central midfielders but then have two just in front rather than one.

He's also encouraged more flair play.

Berge is playing in a far more advanced role. N'Diaye is encouraged to try things and he is excellent at pressing. He's finding a place for Khadra, McAtee as well.

Wilder's set up felt a little more formulaic in nature which helped lesser players bridge the gap in quality. They were very well drilled. But his system didn't really allow for the aforementioned flair players. Probably part of the reason the winger types never succeeded because they either had to be midfielders or strikers. Hecky can now accomodate playing two no 10s.

I'd argue that Hecky has better players. Some of that has been down to the current set up - giving N'Diaye a chance, signing Anel, persevering with Norrington-Davies and of course his presentations which have enticed the Man City lads. Nobody must do PowerPoint as well as Hecky!

But also in part the spine that was instilled under Wilder has remained and a huge part is the backing of the Prince. He's only really sold Ramsdale. The rest hee refused to buckle but also found cash for gems like Anel.

The evolution is kind of what we'd hoped for under Chris. But he started to go in on the players a bit whereas Hecky seems to encourage them to try stuff more and isn't going to admonish them if they lose the ball.

Chris did a brilliant job before it unravelled in certain odd circumstances, pandemic etc. No point dwelling. But we seem in a good place to move forward.
 
One further thing I'd add is that Hecky really is sticking to giving the youth a chance.

When push came to shove he's thrown Gordon in, thrown in Seriki, given games to Jebbison and Osula, he's pushing Arblaster up the ranks at pace, he had Amissah on the bench. He was the one to put N'Diaye in the team at Leicester away from nowhere and has continued to cultivate him.

None of these bollocks signings like Rodwell and Morrison or other resurrection projects that despite what Wilder may think, all ended in abject failure.

As a fan it's just easier to get behind your youth than some journeyman here for a short time and not necessarily a good one.
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Im not slagging hecky off , im just saying he hasnt got any track record to show that he is good enough to take a team up if he does then ill be wrong

However if he cant get this team up then he may aswell pack up as a manager
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Didn't he get the Dingles promoted or doesn't that count?
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Im not slagging hecky off , im just saying he hasnt got any track record to show that he is good enough to take a team up if he does then ill be wrong
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To be fair this could be said about the majority of managers who win promotion, as most years the managers winning promotion are winning it for the first time.
Slav had an amazing track record, but was useless for us.
Ps I’m sure Hecky won promotion with Barnsley.
 
The Prince got caught up in all the hype and ignored the job Hecky had done in those last few games in the Premier and instead gave the job to Slav. But kudos to the guy for realising his mistake and re-instating the right man for the job. Hecky has been a revelation and justified his reinstatement and the trust the Prince has put in him.
 
Th!stledo said:
The Prince got caught up in all the hype and ignored the job Hecky had done in those last few games in the Premier and instead gave the job to Slav. But kudos to the guy for realising his mistake and re-instating the right man for the job. Hecky has been a revelation and justified his reinstatement and the trust the Prince has put in him.
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Hang on. The backlash from fans when it was suggested as a possibility was significant and pretty much across the board particularly on social media. Slav was pushed as the ambitious option and he was told by fans that it was who was wanted.
I’m not sure he got caught up in the hype, but given his support of our campaign to return to the Premier League he listened to the fans and gave them who they wanted. It’s no surprise the new chairman came in and pretty much said at Heckys first press conference that they are are sticking to their plan and not listening to the noise.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
The backlash from fans when it was suggested as a possibility was significant and pretty much across the board particularly on social media. Slav was pushed as the ambitious option and he was told by fans that it was who was wanted.
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Is that not what hype is?
 
I think most people - the Prince, fans, media - believed Slav was the best bet to take us straight back up. I guess you could call it hype, but it's not like he came out of nowhere promising the moon on a stick - he certainly had a solid track record. He just turned out to be rubbish for us.
 
You can’t listen to Hecky and not think he knows what he is doing. He is adept at dealing with stupid questions. There is clearly a plan for player development He has a great team of coaches and it is not all about him
 



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