MGW or Berge

[Houston_Blade]

Do you not think they were scared of MGW last season though? I’ve always backed Berge but what are his strengths? He’s good at carrying the ball and has chipped in with goals and assists but I think we get deceived a bit by his size. He’s a big lad but he doesn’t dominate aerially or use his size to bully players. He doesn’t remind me of a Vierra type player or a Yaya Toure.

It may sound weird but I actually believe a smaller player could do what he does just as well. I’ve noticed that he lacks a little bit of creative instinct at times, if the obvious ball isn’t on and his passing, whilst good, isn’t perfect, he often gets the pass very slightly wrong and gives the receiver a little bit too much to do.

As I say, I like him and I’ve always believed that with a good run he’d do well for us but I don’t go with this irreplaceable thing. But that’s just me looking with my eyes, stats may prove me wrong. If he ends up going to a better club than Everton (which I consider to be the best club that came in for MGW, although I guess MGW disagrees) then I’m wrong.

I do think they were scared of MGW, most teams towards the end either booted him or doubled up on him. The thing is though we are seeing the same with Ndiaye at the moment where his marker is fastened to his arse. I think Khadra will get the same and McAtee based on reputation will also get similar.

MGW is the best player I've seen playing for United so I'm not doing him down and I don't think Berge is a better player than him, I just think that the sheer physical size of Berge scares opposition players, even if he doesn't use it to his advantage very often.

I don't want to lose Berge, I think we might though.

 

[bonobo]

When Berge has performed over a run of 30+ games, as MGW did last season. Then I would compare. But, its looking like it could be an interesting question to ask again after Christmas.

 

[BushBlade]

I do think they were scared of MGW, most teams towards the end either booted him or doubled up on him. The thing is though we are seeing the same with Ndiaye at the moment where his marker is fastened to his arse. I think Khadra will get the same and McAtee based on reputation will also get similar.

MGW is the best player I've seen playing for United so I'm not doing him down and I don't think Berge is a better player than him, I just think that the sheer physical size of Berge scares opposition players, even if he doesn't use it to his advantage very often.

I don't want to lose Berge, I think we might though.

Yeah, and thinking about it, even though he’s not that good in the air, you still have to mark him with a big bloke at set pieces, meaning one less big bloke to deal with our other giants like Anel and, er…

 

[Houston_Blade]

Yeah, and thinking about it, even though he’s not that good in the air, you still have to mark him with a big bloke at set pieces, meaning one less big bloke to deal with our other giants like Anel and, er…

Ironically he was stood right behind Anel on Wednesday and he looked like he was actually going to head it himself

 

[Nedski]

MGW was brilliant for us, there's no denying that. He could produce a moment of magic out of nothing but he could also be extremely frustrating on the occasions when his tricks and passes wouldn't come off. There was also the stroppy side which regularly got him in trouble.

Berge is similar in that he's a beautiful footballer and a joy to watch when he imposes himself, but he can also be frustrating in the times where he doesn't get stuck in. I love the games where he seems to suddenly realise he's bigger stronger faster and better than the opposition and proceeds to really show how good he is but this needs to be a more regular occurance.

I loved watching MGW Berge and Ndiaye on the pitch together and it's a travesty we'll not see it again, but overall I'm more than happy with the two we've still got, with Mcatee and Khadra both looking very exciting replacements.

 

[Yakblade]

I do think they were scared of MGW, most teams towards the end either booted him or doubled up on him. The thing is though we are seeing the same with Ndiaye at the moment where his marker is fastened to his arse. I think Khadra will get the same and McAtee based on reputation will also get similar.

MGW is the best player I've seen playing for United so I'm not doing him down and I don't think Berge is a better player than him, I just think that the sheer physical size of Berge scares opposition players, even if he doesn't use it to his advantage very often.

I don't want to lose Berge, I think we might though.

This is exactly why I think many teams will struggle against us this season.

You'd expect we'd have at least 2 of Ndiaye, Khadra, McAtee and Berge on the pitch at any one time. The opposition aren't going to be able to double up on more than one player without leaving huge gaps in defence for others to exploit. It also means they won't be able to pressure Norwood as much giving him the freedom he likes to dictate play. It's a massive headache for opposing managers to deal with.

 

[Stretch]

MGW, as he's got more to his game than Berge has, currently anyway, and is still one of the best players I have ever seen turn out for United.

Berge has the potential to match him this season though.

 

[Nedski]

Yeah, and thinking about it, even though he’s not that good in the air, you still have to mark him with a big bloke at set pieces, meaning one less big bloke to deal with our other giants like Anel and, er…

Berge still gets a lot of stick for his supposed lack of heading ability. It's pretty obvious it's the part of the game he least enjoys but he's actually won a few key headers this season already so is clearly being worked on. I can definitely sympathise with him though, I always hated heading. There's a small chance it goes OK, and a massive chance of it hurting like fuck

 

[Benitachel]

Why is it sour grapes?

I'd say MGW for this division. But Sander has a higher ceiling and IMO will achieve more

Does Sander have a higher ceiling because he is 6ft 5.
For me I would choose MGW as he is the better player by a country mile.

 

[Sheff de party]

I know football is about opinions but I'm struggling to see how anyone can value Berge higher than Gibbs-White. I'd rather have MGW every day of the week.

Better stats, better performances, far harder working and two years younger.

People are understandably biased because Berge plays for us.

I genuinely don’t see how anyone can prefer to have him over Gibbs-White. He was a constant menace and largely responsible for all of our attacking play, goals and assists. At his best, which was frequent, untouchable.

Berge shows flashes of quality. There’s genuinely no comparison.

 

[Carlton Blade]

MGW and it isn't close. Absolute monster mentally, rises to the occasion and carries his teammates with him

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

This is all a bit academic isn't it? MGW was never going to come back here.

 

[Tarqs]

When Berge has performed over a run of 30+ games, as MGW did last season. Then I would compare. But, its looking like it could be an interesting question to ask again after Christmas.

MGW didn't perform over 30+ games. In first half of the season he was inconsistent to fuck, some games he was fucking shocking. Was only the last 3/4 months that he got rid of the stupid showboating passes to the opposition.

 

[Chingo]

MGW.

Probably the most exciting player I've seen in the red & white.

How old are you ?
If you’re old enough to have seen Morgan you’re old enough to have seen Micheal Brown!

 

[bongleblade]

If we somehow spliced them, that midfielder would be some beast.

MGW's flair, dribbling and agility, combined with Sander's strength, height and possession ability. Probably one of the world's best midfielders

 

[CaptainMorgans]

How old are you ?
If you’re old enough to have seen Morgan you’re old enough to have seen Micheal Brown!

I liked Michael Brown a lot. He gave us some fantastic memories. I was there for his volley against Wednesday and he did the same against Ipswich in a FA Cup Match. Great player.

But he didn't excite me like Morgan Gibbs-White did. His style wasn't all action, tricks, flair etc. I wasn't getting out of my seat every time Brown had the ball.

 

[Kev Gee]

This is exactly why I think many teams will struggle against us this season.

You'd expect we'd have at least 2 of Ndiaye, Khadra, McAtee and Berge on the pitch at any one time. The opposition aren't going to be able to double up on more than one player without leaving huge gaps in defence for others to exploit. It also means they won't be able to pressure Norwood as much giving him the freedom he likes to dictate play. It's a massive headache for opposing managers to deal with.

The only way they will deal with it will be rotational fouling and just being dirty twats just like Sunderland tried.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Sander can play anywhere in a midfield. MGW only in one position, two at a push. MGW needs to improve a lot. Gave the ball away a hell of a lot at United and had numerous games where he didn't turn up . You do that in the Prem and you get ruthlessly exposed and dropped. People always prefer forward players so it's no surprise to see the blindness to his faults. Worth a punt at 25 million up front though.

Personally feel that another season in the Champ would've been perfect for MGW. He could've refined his game which still has considerable flaws. He needs games. People also forget that United were set up with an emphasis to get the most from MGW. The higher you go the less that is the case unless your name is Messi or Ronaldo.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I don’t think either player gives you enough goals or assists to survive in the premiership. If it’s a choice of who in the championship then it would be MGW

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Has anyone ever benefited so much from such a lame penalty miss?

 

[Toronto Blade]

MGW's miss was the last lame miss Hourihane and the first one by Norwood all equally poor they all did the damage. Berge's was a blast.

 

[Charlieblade]

I do think they were scared of MGW, most teams towards the end either booted him or doubled up on him. The thing is though we are seeing the same with Ndiaye at the moment where his marker is fastened to his arse. I think Khadra will get the same and McAtee based on reputation will also get similar.

MGW is the best player I've seen playing for United so I'm not doing him down and I don't think Berge is a better player than him, I just think that the sheer physical size of Berge scares opposition players, even if he doesn't use it to his advantage very often.

I don't want to lose Berge, I think we might though.

I think the attention our ballers are getting, or will get helps. They are still good enough to provide a finish or an assist, but if they are marked closely, others will gain confidence and improve their game with more time on the ball too.
We have quite a few now!

 

[Houston_Blade]

I think the attention our ballers are getting, or will get helps. They are still good enough to provide a finish or an assist, but if they are marked closely, others will gain confidence and improve their game with more time on the ball too.
We have quite a few now!

The way that Ndiaye receives a ball to feet with someone attached to him and still manages to lose the man amazes me. He sometimes gets it wrong but often does the right thing. He just needs to work on being fitter now though and lasting the full 90.

 

[William Large]

This is exactly why I think many teams will struggle against us this season.

You'd expect we'd have at least 2 of Ndiaye, Khadra, McAtee and Berge on the pitch at any one time. The opposition aren't going to be able to double up on more than one player without leaving huge gaps in defence for others to exploit. It also means they won't be able to pressure Norwood as much giving him the freedom he likes to dictate play. It's a massive headache for opposing managers to deal with.

I hope that is the case because when pressed, Norwood doesn’t have a trick or a drop of the shoulder to make space for himself.
When teams drop off him he is superb and is the heartbeat of the team.
If teams start to worry more about Berge / Khadra / Mcatee then he will get that space.

 

[Champagneblade]

It's just a bit ironic what happened.

He scores his pen. The ref penalties Samba for going early and it could be us.

Shades of the past. Jags gives a goal away and is the main beneficiary with a big move and the one who did the damage, Unsworth/Samba are not with the club to enjoy the spoils.

 

[dn5 shaun]

Different players playing different roles but for me MGW is the better all round footballer.

And does it more often

 

[Chingo]

I liked Michael Brown a lot. He gave us some fantastic memories. I was there for his volley against Wednesday and he did the same against Ipswich in a FA Cup Match. Great player.

But he didn't excite me like Morgan Gibbs-White did. His style wasn't all action, tricks, flair etc. I wasn't getting out of my seat every time Brown had the ball.

Brownie for me agree MGW was great but some have him down as the second coming , for every back heel or flick that came off ten didn’t.
Don’t give a toss about him and hendo now joining them twohats and hope he’s back in the championship next season!

 

[Bladesince59]

Berge

 

[derfblade.3]

Irrelevant fucking question.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Berge