Bramall Lane

[Stanthemanfan]

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Oh.. That old chestnut!

 

[Stanthemanfan]

 

[Stanthemanfan]

 

[Stanthemanfan]

Oh yea, it's loads bigger! (not even 1000)
For the millionth time it's the shallow rake why our kop Dosent look "massive"

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

I would like to see the Kop rebuilt, incorporating the John Street and South stand corners, to a capacity of 15,000 with safe standing. The seating element would give another inch or two in the seat widths and legroom.

What an impressive sight and sound that would be.

I would hope that ticket prices would always be below those charged at the Stadio Rustico.

 

[JJBlade]

Correct.

And why you think that this demographic deserves the red carpet treatment ahead of those who actually put the time in is beyond me.

Unless your reasons for staying away are due to personal circumstances, you have no right to breeze in and out every few years when the going is good and start making demands.

They have every right as customers or potential customers to do whatever they want

We have 18,000 - 20,000 League One fans

We have 30,000 Premier League fans because we are limited to that many

Who knows how many more would go if there was enough room, good facilities and a good team to support.

The problem is a 45,000 stadium could be sold if we had some success over a few years, like Leicester for example

But if our success was a one off flash in the pan like last time we got promoted we would be left with a white elephant.

This is the reason why stadium expansion won't ever be done.

The team has to have reasonable success first, and that will be in front of 30,000 with 2,000 shit seats empty.

So the argument will always be "Can't even fill this stadium, what's the point building a bigger one"

The reason for those seats being empty will always be overlooked

 

[S64 Blade]

One thing I did see is the complaints that the wheelchair accessible spaces were all at pitch level. It's difficult as we don't have any level egress into the bowl of the stadium but it's clearly something those used to attending games elsewhere expected from a "big" ground.

I wonder if we could use the John Street corner for creating a better disabled zone? It'd obviously require some reconfiguring for access, but I don't think it'd be particularly missed if we just made it available for disabled fans, plus maybe add in some more corporate/press facilities at the rear of the stand.

 

[Katzenjammer]

They have every right as customers or potential customers to do whatever they want

We have 18,000 - 20,000 League One fans

We have 30,000 Premier League fans because we are limited to that many

Who knows how many more would go if there was enough room, good facilities and a good team to support.

The problem is a 45,000 stadium could be sold if we had some success over a few years, like Leicester for example

But if our success was a one off flash in the pan like last time we got promoted we would be left with a white elephant.

This is the reason why stadium expansion won't ever be done.

The team has to have reasonable success first, and that will be in front of 30,000 with 2,000 shit seats empty.

So the argument will always be "Can't even fill this stadium, what's the point building a bigger one"

The reason for those seats being empty will always be overlooked

Supporters aren't customers for a start.

But it's encouraging to know that there's tens of thousands of new fans, just waiting in the wings for the construction of a few luxury shithouses.

They definitely deserve to be treated better than those of us who have followed Sheffield United across 3/4 divisions week in/week out for years.

Impeccable logic...

 

[metalblade]

There is no reason a disabled area should be on the touchline it could easily be located higher up the stand without any real wheelchair access problems, maybe stop treating them like 2nd class citizens.

 

[Bladeloyal]

There is no reason a disabled area should be on the touchline it could easily be located higher up the stand without any real wheelchair access problems, maybe stop treating them like 2nd class citizens.

Allways thought the disabled section should be higher ,think they are put in a vulnerable position so close to the action .

 

[metalblade]

Supporters aren't customers for a start.

But it's encouraging to know that there's tens of thousands of new fans, just waiting in the wings for the construction of a few luxury shithouses.

They definitely deserve to be treated better than those of us who have followed Sheffield United across 3/4 divisions week in/week out for years.

Impeccable logic...

Did you not get your in the post?

 

[Katzenjammer]

Did you not get your in the post?

No, they used all the gold to plate the taps in the kop toilets so that your lot wouldn't throw a hissy fit.

 

[metalblade]

No, they used all the gold to plate the taps in the kop toilets so that your lot wouldn't throw a hissy fit.

You should have had one pal I sent mine back I knew there would be someone more needing of one like yourself

 

[HighfieldBlade]

"Not good enough to play match at stadium as small as Bramall Lane, which should not have been chosen for fixture of this magnitude"

"Not criticism of Sheffield united, but a costly mistake by F.A. Old Trafford would have been better"

"A let down to play match in Sheffield, to choose a stadium that holds just 32,000 is ludicrous"

"Not enough room for all media at match (including me?)"

 

[MobileBlade]

Supporters aren't customers for a start.

Strangely I was just looking at my account on line and it asks me for my customer number.

 

[JJBlade]

We sold out all home tickets well in advance of that game, so yes.

What you have to consider is that we rarely sell all the tickets as there's plenty of restricted view seats, that people simply refuse to sit in.

Remove those restricted view seats, increase capacity, and average attendance will increase.

Exactly
Our tickets "with an actual view of the pitch" went like wildfire in the Prem.

But it was always the usual suspect seats that were the problem

You could almost hear people looking online and thinking, "Oh fuck, is that all I can buy"

Then theyd think about it for a day or two, then come back in the hope that a seat somewhere else had popped up

Eventually a few people would give in and buy the ticket, just to be there

But most just won't buy them, and I don't blame them

 

[JJBlade]

Supporters aren't customers for a start.

But it's encouraging to know that there's tens of thousands of new fans, just waiting in the wings for the construction of a few luxury shithouses.

They definitely deserve to be treated better than those of us who have followed Sheffield United across 3/4 divisions week in/week out for years.

Impeccable logic...

Other clubs are more successful than us, not just on the pitch, but in the way the club is marketed and presented

Perhaps you'd feel more like you were at a football match with true Blades if one of them stood next to you and pissed down your leg

After all, that's all a part of football in the 21st century innit, and should never be changed, change is not good.

 

[Katzenjammer]

Other clubs are more successful than us, not just on the pitch, but in the way the club is marketed and presented

Perhaps you'd feel more like you were at a football match with true Blades if one of them stood next to you and pissed down your leg

After all, that's all a part of football in the 21st century innit, and should never be changed, change is not good.

As long as your contingent are guaranteed to be shut out then I wouldn't even mind having my leg defecated on to be honest.

I can't see what you'd bring to the table anyhow: a humourless, self-important, walking, talking Joy Division lyric sheet.

 

[reedy63]

Simple bigger capacity more fans more money coming in. the kop needs sorting out.
more exec boxes back of Tony Currie stand that can be done.without affecting fans. like Liverpool are doing.

 

[Harrisblade]

Allways thought the disabled section should be higher ,think they are put in a vulnerable position so close to the action .

But doesn't being higher create more problems if anyone has to get out quickly?

 

[FlamingLip]

There doesn't need to be any suggestion of treating fair weather/jonny-come-lately/casual fans any better than the bitter lifers, just dont put unnecessary hurdles in the way. We'll cap our own potential and lose out.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

I think we can average 35k or so in the PL easily actually.

We averaged just over 30k last time and the time before in PL. Giving usually the away team 2,800 tickets, meaning on average we had 27,200 home fans in.
If we expanded the kop by say 3,500 seats etc. We could give away teams both tiers and in the PL this is likely to be sold more often than not. I'm not suggesting the full 7,000 inc corner.
Just BL Upper and Lower so that is 5,500 seats. Instantly that's another 2,700 on average on a gate without any extra home fans.
(We are not far off 33k at this point.)

I would say that if we improved and expanded our ground a capacity of 35-36k for when we are a PL team is about right. The proposed 44k capacity under McCabe to host WC games though seems way too big.

As said elsewhere though we need to make it easier for every now and again fans to buy tickets, who then might go on to become regular fans.

Personal experience, recently tried to get an adult and two kids tickets for family friends for the Millwall match. Was told they all had to register online first, including the kids. Why me buying them as a season ticket holder doesn’t guarantee there’ll be no trouble as it would come back om me I don’t know.

Anyway, end result…they’re not bothering.

 

[jt64]

It'll never fail to amaze me as to why taking two minutes to register an account for someone is such a hardship

 

[Weasel]

We should be looking to increase the capacity at the Lane to around the 36k mark and then see how it goes. If you want to increase the size of the fan base of the club and maximise potential income (and be THE club in Sheffield which neutrals gravitate too) then we need to increase capacity and improve the facilities at the ground. Some are too stuck in their ways and don't like change and want to keep it a closed circuit where if youve followed the team from way back when then you should get preferential treatment. It shouldnt be like that. I've been going since the 70s and father / grandad / great grandad from way back when, but that doesn't give me any more right (other than loyalty points) to think I should get preference over other fans. On the contrary, I welcome new fans to the Lane as that grows us as a club. We should be looking to encourage new fans and their kids to become long term Blades and should be as accommodating as possible. They means giving them the chance to buy seats without a restricted view and to buy tickets where they can sit together.

Years ago, I would have laughed at you if you had said we would regularly attract just short of 30k on a regular basis, but we now do as we have grown our fan base steadily and organically. If we continue to do so and increase the ground to 36k ish the I would be surprised if we are regularly getting 33k plus in attendance. Some are too quick to be negative and think that this is the best it will ever be. Its not, we can get bigger and better and we should be trying to accommodate new fans by sorting the Kop out and putting in better facilities and more corporate boxes. The Lane is great place to watch football but it could be so much more if we have the forethought to make it bigger and better. The question for me isn't whether we should do the work, it's when can we get it done and how do we fund it.

 

[Weasel]

As said elsewhere though we need to make it easier for every now and again fans to buy tickets, who then might go on to become regular fans.

Personal experience, recently tried to get an adult and two kids tickets for family friends for the Millwall match. Was told they all had to register online first, including the kids. Why me buying them as a season ticket holder doesn’t guarantee there’ll be no trouble as it would come back om me I don’t know.

Anyway, end result…they’re not bothering.

So basically we are continuing to chuck money away because we are so inflexible and have draconian rules in place. Other clubs seem to manage their administration side better I have to admit. It's frustrating, as we shouldnt be putting up barriers to potential new fans. Sort it out United. Its poor.

 

[JJBlade]

It'll never fail to amaze me as to why taking two minutes to register an account for someone is such a hardship

It's not just football.
Many people won't register for anything online

The most simple and useful thing you can do is online banking, but this area has a staggering amount of people that just won't do it.

They'd go back to the good old days of a cash wage packet tomorrow if they could

 

[BushBlade]

As said elsewhere though we need to make it easier for every now and again fans to buy tickets, who then might go on to become regular fans.

Personal experience, recently tried to get an adult and two kids tickets for family friends for the Millwall match. Was told they all had to register online first, including the kids. Why me buying them as a season ticket holder doesn’t guarantee there’ll be no trouble as it would come back om me I don’t know.

Anyway, end result…they’re not bothering.

Why didn’t you just register them? It wouldn’t take much longer than it did to write that post.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

It'll never fail to amaze me as to why taking two minutes to register an account for someone is such a hardship

It never is two minutes and if you’re not a fan it’s an hassle. Far easier to ask someone (me) who’s a season ticket to pick up some tickets for them. But like it or not some people just won’t be bothered with the hassle of registering oline for adults and kids. Human nature.

It’s almost like United don’t need the money. Just as well, they ain’t getting it now.

 

[Tuns25]

It'll never fail to amaze me as to why taking two minutes to register an account for someone is such a hardship
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Use online for most things and our ticket website is one of the most user unfriendly I have come across. Floating fans aren't going to be arsed with complexity just make it easy for them to buy a bloody ticket and the club gets more money. Really not hard.
Needs to be a doddle and we need to be throwing up offers as people buy tickets to buy for future matches.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Why didn’t you just register them? It wouldn’t take much longer than it did to write that post.

Well it’s not that easy to get their details. It was for members of my nephew’s wife’s family so I don’t even know them. But I’d have happily got the tickets for them.