Jebbo to go - yay or nay?

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Sell Jebbo to Everton

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 42.4%
  • NO

    Votes: 110 57.6%

  • Total voters
    191
With Everton being owned by a part Iranian with main interests in Russia maybe not the safest bet with reliable funds but either way for me anything above £5million with a sell on clause is worth considering for real term squad investment now. Although replacement targets would have to be identified quickly as only a short turn around.
 



He’ll still be a young striking prospect in three years time. And people want him sold now for the sort of money that buys very little?

Just nah.
 
Folk have short memories when it comes to selling players. We won't reinvest it generally speaking, especially while the owner is looking to flog us...
 
I don’t see any premier league team coming in for him just yet despite what the media may be reporting.

Jebbison could indeed be a great player but there isn’t much ay this moment to distinguish him as a cut above any other 17/18 year old and that’s not being in any way critical to the lad.

The counter argument is that DCL didnt look particularly special at that age either so it’s all ifs buts and maybes.

The best thing for Jebbo, especially if we remain in the championshop would be to give him a target of forcing his way into our squad consistently. 15-20 appearances + more off the bench and 5-6 goals will keep him on the right development path for now.

If you want a figure to justify the gamble of selling him then I’d be asking 10 million to cover ourselves
A reasonable fee now and a good sell on percentage would make sense when we have Brewster and Osalu plus a more experienced one to arrive
 
I have absolutely nothing against the lad, but we need a rebuild and will require funds even for wages of loans/freebies I’d imagine.

If he goes to fund that, fine. He’s not done enough to say this would be a huge mistake.

If he doesn’t, also fine. He’s shown a bit of potential and he’s only young.
 
Let's change the way we look at this.

Assuming the story is true, Everton want to buy him now because they think a) the limit of his ability is significant higher than his current ability, b) they back themselves to turn that potential into reality and, importantly, c) they are expecting his value to go up and are keen to take a 5m risk now rather than a 10m risk in the future.

We are financially healthy, but cash poor. Selling player will only make a difference if the fee is paid in full up front. Demanding that Everton do that, for a relatively small fee, weakens our negotiating position and will likely mean a smaller sell-on % or maybe no sell-on at all.

Up front payment tends to be a hard-ball tactic used by clubs who don't want to sell, or the buyer is desperate, and where a sell on profit is unlikely. Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid, Maguire to Man United, Ramsdale to Arsenal.

So let's see that 5m, or even 10m, does not really motivate us to sell. We would only accept if we decide that his price is higher than his value, or at least what his value might become as a Sheffield United player. It's also true that a 5m or 10m sale isn't going to strengthen us in the transfer market very much. If we needed that sort of money to finance a deal, they are many ways it can be found and accounted for. An extra debtor just makes buying players less risky as the future income is a bit higher.

However this ignores two relevant factors.

1) the player and his agent. Rejecting an offer from a club higher up the pyramid usually leads to one of two consequences - they'll either be unhappy about it and force a move anyway or they'll demand an improved contract. If the demands aren't realistic it might be in our interests to sell. Pre-empting those moves isn't easy but getting it wrong could cost you the player and most of the original transfer fee.

2) the club who has promoted its intention to be 'self-sufficent' and promote youth. Part of this cycle involves selling players. This doesn't mean selling at the first opportunity but nor does it mean hanging onto players after their sweet spot has passed. Both options are risky.

My view is that, while recalling him has been counterproductive, being around the first team group pushing for promotion will benefit him mentally and the lack of gametime won't be as big a setback as some think it will. I would turn on down anything under 10m, let him enjoy a full season out on loan in 22/23 and then make him a first team squad in 23/24. It's not unrealistic that he could develop enough in the next two years to score 10+ goals in the Championship before he turns 21, and then we'll be talking about more serious player and possible transfer fees that would be harder to ignore.

This isn't a DCL situation, we weren't in a position to turn that down and the funds were needed to support Wilder's overhaul.
 
Would it not have been easier to question the poll "at what price would you sell" rather than a simple yes/no which can only be answered with "it depends"?
But then you kind of close down the art of conversation?..... the poll is self explanatory, with the option to then add to the conversation with something like 'I voted yes, but I wouldn't take less than "x" for him.... or do we note talk any more.... there was me thinking these were discussion boards..... silly me 🤦‍♂️
 
But then you kind of close down the art of conversation?..... the poll is self explanatory

How does having a list of something like:

a) packet of space raiders he's a wage thief
b) one million dollars
c) five million as quoted
d) eight figures or fuck off
e) break our transfer record

Limit the conversation?
 
DCL was a much better player at the same stage. He had lots of brilliant attributes but lacked the strength/intelligence and mentality. I don't think Jebbo is that good or anyone would think he was if Hecky hadn't chucked him in and he scored.
 
DCL was a much better player at the same stage. He had lots of brilliant attributes but lacked the strength/intelligence and mentality. I don't think Jebbo is that good or anyone would think he was if Hecky hadn't chucked him in and he scored.

With all due respect, that's absolute fucking twaddle.

By the time DCL was 18 yrs old, he'd played 55 minutes of professional football for us in L1, scoring 0 goals and 450 minutes of semi professional football for Stalybridge Celtic, scoring 6.

Jebbison at the same stage/age, has played 284 minutes of PL football scoring 1, 204 minutes of Championship football scoring 0 and 1,238 minutes of L1 football scoring 7. He's also featured for England u18's & u19's. He's being actively tapped up to play for Canada and teams are interested in buying him for £5m.

At 18 yrs of age Jordan Slew was a better prospect than DCL.
 



Jebbiaon looked decent in the premier league it was refreshing to see a striker come in and occupy defenders who had basically had a day off against the likes of mcburnie ,moose and sharp
 
It’s hard for jebbison to get involve with play because In the championship we dominate 90% of the games with our possession so it’s hard for him. His strength is running in behind using his pace and power. He can’t do that because most of our possession is tippy tappy football down the flanks. He’s a counter attacking striker like vardy.
 
Understand his contract is due to expire in 12 months time if he does not extend he has to be moved on.
Seems hecky preferred Osula towards the end of last season.
£5m and decent sell on of at least 15% with option to buy back at £10m if he does not extend
 
Selling our young players from the academy too early is the reason we haven’t established ourselves in the premier league. Need to keep them and ride their development to the top. We had Ramsdale/Brooks/Adams/DCL at the same time. What if Ndiaye/Jebbison/Osula reach similar levels but we sold them too quickly again? As a fan I’d rather see us believe and have faith in our young kids than gamble against them and hope for a ‘Jordan Slew’.
 
Understand his contract is due to expire in 12 months time if he does not extend he has to be moved on.
Seems hecky preferred Osula towards the end of last season.
£5m and decent sell on of at least 15% with option to buy back at £10m if he does not extend
I’m assuming we will have a year extension which protects us, as we do with every other young player
 
large majority of Blades would love to see him sold. Gets money in to sign top players.

OH WAIT!
 
I've heard we're looking at signing a young powerful 18yo striker who scored on their PL debut, and bagged 7 goals in 20 league one appearances last season

Who else gets excited reading that?

Well he's right here already!
 
I would be ok with Jebbo leaving as long as had a buy back clause + a sell on percentage in the event we choose not to buy him back.
 
Things that bug me:
Some Utd fans creaming themselves at the prospect of selling our best players for absolute peanuts. Why? What pleasure can be gained from selling a player? Can we clap a financial summary or enjoy a good piece of play from an excel spreadsheet? Or enjoy the half time pint a bit more knowing that we got slightly more than market value.
I find it weird.
 
Would not choose to sell him, but was under the impression that his contract expired in twelve months, in which case it is a case of needs must.
 
Things that bug me:
Some Utd fans creaming themselves at the prospect of selling our best players for absolute peanuts. Why? What pleasure can be gained from selling a player? Can we clap a financial summary or enjoy a good piece of play from an excel spreadsheet? Or enjoy the half time pint a bit more knowing that we got slightly more than market value.
I find it weird.
bu.. bu.. but... reinvestment!!! :D
 
I would be ok with Jebbo leaving as long as had a buy back clause + a sell on percentage in the event we choose not to buy him back.
You can't really have a buy back clause when you're selling to a bigger club. Unless Everton got relegated and we went up, the player wouldn't be interested in coming back.
 



He’s still a kid, his body has not even matured yet, anyone remember that young fella with not to a dissimilar body, tall gangly bambi on ice fella type player? first impressions were not great but it was all about how he matured and could progress, Brian Deane. He didn’t turn out too bad did he. Jebbison is miles ahead of a 18 year old Brian Deane. Would be absolutely crazy to sell before he develops and matures over the next 18 months.
 

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