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William Large said:
Unfortunately I couldn’t get to the game and I had to watch it on Sky yesterday. Clearly Forest had the better chances than us in the first halt and were more threatening however the actual stats weren't that damning.
Just before they flashed the stats up on screen Goodman said something like ‘forest have been superior to United in every single way that half’. Up poppped the stats which didn’t reflect that so he beat a hasty retreat saying ‘er.. even if the stats don’t reflect it’
He’s a full weight cunt when we are on. I know we like to think that everyone has an agenda against us but he was literally wanking over everything they did.
Get some better Co comms please sky. What’s the choice Hendrie, Hinchcliffe or Goodman? Fuck me….
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That bit was hilarious. The stats showed we were certainly the better side up to the goal but he had already dug his hole.
 



I didn't see the stats, but Goodman would have been right to say that Forest were much better than us in the first half... because they were.
 
steve26272 said:
Think it’s cyclical

3 years ago we were the media darlings, then Leeds - they are now been called shit and it’s plucky Brentford

Next season will be whoever goes up via playoffs, Forest where they belong, Udders back in the big time little ol Luton

Don’t take it personally

That said I imagine Goodman on his knees in the forest dressing room happily taking a bukkake off them
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There’s one every year and this year it’s Forest. As you say it’s been us Leeds Brentford & Derby before without even thinking about it. It’s good for them to create a “fairy story” type scenario because neutrals start wanting it to happen and might tune in when they normally wouldn’t and the rest of us tune in in the hope they fall on their faces. All about bums on seats and advertising revenue isn’t it.
 
That Daniel Mann can fuck off. This City, These fans etc. always the same tropes. “He sold crack as a kid, but has he now cracked the championship?”

Bring back Rob Hawthorne and Alan Brazil.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
I didn't see the stats, but Goodman would have been right to say that Forest were much better than us in the first half... because they were.
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They were, but he said they were dominating every aspect of the game, which they weren't.
 
originaltrueblade said:
Years ago we could turn commentary off
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This feature on Sky was very underrated.

Commentary has changed. There used to be pauses and gaps in the commentary, or certainly lulls. Now it seems to be an endless wall of noise, from start to finish, and they're all just talking shit. It is often just endless words, rearranged into some form that roughly resembles a sentence, with the same phrases repeated over and over again.

Commentators used to be journalists, often well educated, and by the time they got on TV they tended to have a few years experience, and tended to be older. Now they're all former football players. The likes of Micheal Owen, Steve McManaman, and even the half-decent ones like Jamie Carragher are really poor replacements for the the likes of John Motson, Barry Davies, Brian Moore, etc.

The role of the football commentator has changed from being one of them describing what is happening on the pitch to one of former players recanting stories of their playing days, and how what is happening now is somehow like something from their playing career (.. insert name of the player's former team/a match they played in/former teammate/how "their" manager would have done things differently, etc). It gets incredibly tedious incredibly quickly.

Sorry to turn this into a "things were better in ye olde days" type thread, but I genuinely believe commentary was more interesting prior to the turn of the millenium. The commentators used to turn up prepared, having done their homework, you'd hear crazy anecdotes about players, managers, grounds, competitions (not just cheap statistics pulled from Wikipedia/transfermarket). There also didn't seem to be the constant need for injecting over-excitement into the game via the commentary (F1 style), that really shouldn't be required in football.

/rant
 
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Gin&Juice said:
That Daniel Mann can fuck off. This City, These fans etc. always the same tropes. “He sold crack as a kid, but has he now cracked the championship?”

Bring back Rob Hawthorne and Alan Brazil.
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It's not Daniel Mann, who is fantastic and in my opinion the best domestic commentator.

I agree that this guy is dreadful, such OTT dramatising of every goal as if it's the last one ever to be scored. It's fine to build something but he's absolutely exhausting.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
I didn't see the stats, but Goodman would have been right to say that Forest were much better than us in the first half... because they were.
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Not the first 15 minutes. Which is when he stated Forest were dominating only for match stats to pop up. 60% possession, 36% in their defensive 3rd, more shots more corners etc. They took control after the goal
 
Ginger Gnome said:
They were, but he said they were dominating every aspect of the game, which they weren't.
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Exactly right. They were catching us on the counter pretty much every time. For some reason we forgot how defend simple forward balls. We sorted it in the second half (until Egan took leave of his senses) and they looked toothless.
 
Flawed said:
This feature on Sky was very underrated.

Commentary has changed. There used to be pauses and gaps in the commentary, or certainly lulls. Now it seems to be an endless wall of noise, from start to finish, and they're all just talking shit. It is often just endless words, rearranged into some form that roughly resembles a sentence, with the same phrases repeated over and over again.

Commentators used to be journalists, often well educated, and by the time they got on TV they tended to have a few years experience, and tended to be older. Now they're all former football players. The likes of Micheal Owen, Steve McManaman, and even the half-decent ones like Jamie Carragher are really poor replacements for the the likes of John Motson, Barry Davies, Brian Moore, etc.

The role of the football commentator has changed from being one of them describing what is happening on the pitch to one of former players recanting stories of their playing days, and how what is happening now is somehow like something from their playing career (.. insert name of the player's former team/a match they played in/former teammate/how "their" manager would have done things differently, etc). It gets incredibly tedious incredibly quickly.

Sorry to turn this into a "things were better in ye olde days" type thread, but I genuinely believe commentary was more interesting prior to the turn of the millenium. The commentators used to turn up prepared, having done their homework, you'd hear crazy anecdotes about players, managers, grounds, competitions (not just cheap statistics pulled from Wikipedia/transfermarket). There also didn't seem to be the constant need for injecting over-excitement into the game via the commentary (F1 style), that really shouldn't be required in football.

/rant
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Come back Keith macklin ....arrr no better not he was always ranting about the dirtys.
 
Gin&Juice said:
That Daniel Mann can fuck off. This City, These fans etc. always the same tropes. “He sold crack as a kid, but has he now cracked the championship?”

Bring back Rob Hawthorne and Alan Brazil.
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It was Gary weaver
 



Flawed said:
This feature on Sky was very underrated.

Commentary has changed. There used to be pauses and gaps in the commentary, or certainly lulls. Now it seems to be an endless wall of noise, from start to finish, and they're all just talking shit. It is often just endless words, rearranged into some form that roughly resembles a sentence, with the same phrases repeated over and over again.

Commentators used to be journalists, often well educated, and by the time they got on TV they tended to have a few years experience, and tended to be older. Now they're all former football players. The likes of Micheal Owen, Steve McManaman, and even the half-decent ones like Jamie Carragher are really poor replacements for the the likes of John Motson, Barry Davies, Brian Moore, etc.

The role of the football commentator has changed from being one of them describing what is happening on the pitch to one of former players recanting stories of their playing days, and how what is happening now is somehow like something from their playing career (.. insert name of the player's former team/a match they played in/former teammate/how "their" manager would have done things differently, etc). It gets incredibly tedious incredibly quickly.

Sorry to turn this into a "things were better in ye olde days" type thread, but I genuinely believe commentary was more interesting prior to the turn of the millenium. The commentators used to turn up prepared, having done their homework, you'd hear crazy anecdotes about players, managers, grounds, competitions (not just cheap statistics pulled from Wikipedia/transfermarket). There also didn't seem to be the constant need for injecting over-excitement into the game via the commentary (F1 style), that really shouldn't be required in football.

/rant
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Can't give this enough likes. Sometimes they just need to stfu!
 
Very Wednesday this, sky have an agenda against us stuff. One of their commentators I find annoying. Daniel Mann is superb. Vast majority of the back up commentators are fine including Lee Hendrie
 
Gin&Juice said:
That Daniel Mann can fuck off. This City, These fans etc. always the same tropes. “He sold crack as a kid, but has he now cracked the championship?”

Bring back Rob Hawthorne and Alan Brazil.
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Leave Daniel Mann alone.
 
I like the EFL commentary generally. Even if the odd bloke talks rubbish sometimes (e.g. Lee Hendrie).

The commentary on Prem games gets unbearable with the endless chat and laughing... Just tell us who's kicking the ball.

I don't dislike Neville or Carragher as studio pundits, but the style of commentary has changed massively and fans must all find it very annoying that there's a 2 or 3 people just chatting during their football match.... Simplify it again, talk about who kicked it and where, with some simple stats etc!


NOTE: McManaman on BT is so horrendously awful he ruins every match.
 
When I had Sky, I found it a much nicer experience to mute the idiots, pause the play for about 45 seconds and synch with Radio Sheffield Commentary. Alas, now I moved to Now TV, I can’t pause the stream, but I have to still mute if either Hinchcliffe or Goodman are on. Hinchcliffe reminds me of the ‘Only Me’ character from Harry Enfield - ‘He didn’t want to do that, he should have done this’.
 
Flawed said:
This feature on Sky was very underrated.

Commentary has changed. There used to be pauses and gaps in the commentary, or certainly lulls. Now it seems to be an endless wall of noise, from start to finish, and they're all just talking shit. It is often just endless words, rearranged into some form that roughly resembles a sentence, with the same phrases repeated over and over again.

Commentators used to be journalists, often well educated, and by the time they got on TV they tended to have a few years experience, and tended to be older. Now they're all former football players. The likes of Micheal Owen, Steve McManaman, and even the half-decent ones like Jamie Carragher are really poor replacements for the the likes of John Motson, Barry Davies, Brian Moore, etc.

The role of the football commentator has changed from being one of them describing what is happening on the pitch to one of former players recanting stories of their playing days, and how what is happening now is somehow like something from their playing career (.. insert name of the player's former team/a match they played in/former teammate/how "their" manager would have done things differently, etc). It gets incredibly tedious incredibly quickly.

Sorry to turn this into a "things were better in ye olde days" type thread, but I genuinely believe commentary was more interesting prior to the turn of the millenium. The commentators used to turn up prepared, having done their homework, you'd hear crazy anecdotes about players, managers, grounds, competitions (not just cheap statistics pulled from Wikipedia/transfermarket). There also didn't seem to be the constant need for injecting over-excitement into the game via the commentary (F1 style), that really shouldn't be required in football.

/rant
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And this is the reason young sports journalist don't have a chance. Ex players already earned the money and fall into easy money for tv
 
Bashamed said:
Very Wednesday this, sky have an agenda against us stuff. One of their commentators I find annoying. Daniel Mann is superb. Vast majority of the back up commentators are fine including Lee Hendrie
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Was my post unbalanced, or did I cite an agenda?
 



Football commentators aren't needed really on TV, imagine being at a match and having a running commentary of clichés and stating the obvious (depending where you sit I know this happens).

On radio it's an art to describe not only what's happening but painting a picture of the flow and emotions because you can't see it. Hoddle or others saying 'he should have scored' when a left back blazes over from 4 ft isn't required as we all saw it! Leave the analysis and insight for half/full time. At least it's saved loads of pubs from aging, alcoholic footballers ruining them by being landlords.
 
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