bloody hell refs

[Champagneblade]

I counted 3 times the ball went out and the linesman never gave it. Where the fuck do they get these cunts from?

The queue at Specsavers?

 

[Greenwich Blade]

No honorable mention for Graham Poll or whoever refused to send off Chris Kirkland at Anfield for deciding he'd just pick the ball up and stop the game?

Neither got me as animated as my Top 3.

 

[Champagneblade]

The last time I saw a ref explain himself was the Gerrard pen in the opening game in 06. Andy Durso?

Rob Styles.

Sorry Guesty wasn't sure whether you posted your reply or just had 'intent' to post

 

[Trafford]

I don’t believe the reported comment from the linesman, did anybody see him raise his flag and put it across his chest like they are supposed to? Thought not.

I don’t agree that refs should be required to explain their decisions, everyone makes mistakes, but it was unfathomable, he couldn’t have been better placed to see it.

 

[Guesty]

Rob Styles.

Sorry Guesty wasn't sure whether you posted your reply or just had 'intent' to post

Haha, bravo!

 

[Russ]

It was a stone waller. Terrible decision by that ref.

 

[bakeblade]

I was delighted that we didn't have to suffer anymore VAR in this league but decisions like that make me feel otherwise. It's the marginal offside decisions that ruin VAR though, overall I'd still prefer no VAR but obviously we'd have a pen with it today.

I still don't want VAR. The fact is that is the ref and lino can't between them see that's a penalty, there's something seriously wrong.
Apparently the lino advised giving it, but the twat of a referee ignored him. The FA have got to get the assistant referees more involved to help the refs with more than offside and throw ins.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

There were two occasions where Smith went down very easily. The one where Fleck did the dive gestures and another where MGW walked up to the ref and stood next to the player and clearly said 'he dived again'

The cheating cunt's got form. Absolute shithouser.

 

[bakeblade]

On st least one occasion the lino’s view was blocked by Parker and his assistants stood outside their technical area. The assistant ref should have given him a warning.

Yes I also noticed that. All of the 4 officials did a shit job today

 

[djbaldken]

I could write a book about my disciplinary hearings. The best one was when I had to explain to the Trust Director and the Head of HR what Hector's House and Ivor The Engine were. And how that led to a disciplinary is an entire thread on its own.

sounds really interesting. I d love to read that thread. Start it please.

 

[Maidenhead]

sounds really interesting. I d love to read that thread. Start it please.

Please don't

 

[Greenwich Blade]

sounds really interesting. I d love to read that thread. Start it please.

Please don't

Do behave, you two!

 

[Updemblades]

With the amount of faking and deceit that goes on every game it doesn't make it easy for them. Ive seen our players do it just as much as others, rolling around like twats because they lost the ball and desperate for something. The pen was fairly obvious in slowmo and on a clear TV angle but clearly not as easy real time on a crowded pitch otherwise it would have been given. Its a case of the boy who cried wolf unfortunately, IMO players are as much to blame as the refs

If the ref couldn't see it properly he should consult with the lines man. Its what their there for. Todays ref has got to have known something had happened that he'd obviously missed by the reaction of almost all of the crowd + and the players, to not even ask the lino is crap. No excuse imo. Utter utter crap ref...bordering on dodgey at times I thought to myself at times

 

[metalblade]

Like it or not but if VAR operated in the Championship this season we would be in the top two. I still can't believe what I saw this afternoon the standards of referees has dropped to an all-time low and the linesmen/women are little better. With VAR in the premier league line officials have become virtually redundant and are only there for show they are no help to the ref who relies on someone watching a screen miles away. The ref at championship level gets pretty much the same assistance from the line (next to zero) but no help from VAR instead of working together three of the four officials are there for show and a back up in case of injury. We should go back to the days where a lino waves the flag when an offence occurs rather than waiting until the ball goes out of play. Why is it always us who gets the shit end of the stick when a ref makes a monumental fuck up.

 

[Leobolly]

It was a pen 100%...............but not as obvious as their pen away which was 110%.........outside their box!

 

[Leobolly]

spell check - outside of our box!

 

[Toronto Blade]

I sometimes wonder if giving the ref a lot of grief in the game is counterproductive.
With tight calls like that one, he made the wrong call by maybe not wanting to appear influenced by the crowd.

But in this case all he did was confirm the sentiment of “you’re not fit to referee”.

The only grief he got was from Parker. Parker intimidated him from the first few minutes when he should have handed out a yellow. Instead he allowed Bournemouth players to dive giving them freekicks when touched. The so called ref was a coward , Parker had him in his back pocket.
A 12 year old from the park could have put in a better performance and enjoyed the money.

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

"Having said that it did look as though the Blades were playing the Disney On Ice reserve team. Although I'm guessing the Disney squad are better at staying on their feet? " From bbc forum...excellent observation

 

[bakeblade]

Like it or not but if VAR operated in the Championship this season we would be in the top two. I still can't believe what I saw this afternoon the standards of referees has dropped to an all-time low and the linesmen/women are little better. With VAR in the premier league line officials have become virtually redundant and are only there for show they are no help to the ref who relies on someone watching a screen miles away. The ref at championship level gets pretty much the same assistance from the line (next to zero) but no help from VAR instead of working together three of the four officials are there for show and a back up in case of injury. We should go back to the days where a lino waves the flag when an offence occurs rather than waiting until the ball goes out of play. Why is it always us who gets the shit end of the stick when a ref makes a monumental fuck up.

They changed the linesmans job title to Assistant referee quite a few years ago.
The idea was to help the ref out with decisions, hence the new job title and I presume pay increase.
VAR seems to have changed this, even in leagues with no VAR.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Why are refs not interviewed straight after a game like managers and players? I'd love to hear him explain how and why that was not a penalty. Yet managers and players have a mic and cam shoved in thier faces why not the referees?
UTB

There’s an Undr the Cosh episode with Jeff Winter where he answers this question quite well. He says something along the lines of that a ref would only get interviewed if the cameras knew they’d fucked up and therefore they’re up against it straight away.

I don’t agree that they get away with shit performances like today but at the same time they wouldn’t gain much by saying “from my view it wasn’t a penalty” when it blatantly was.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

There’s an Undr the Cosh episode with Jeff Winter where he answers this question quite well. He says something along the lines of that a ref would only get interviewed if the cameras knew they’d fucked up and therefore they’re up against it straight away.

I don’t agree that they get away with shit performances like today but at the same time they wouldn’t gain much by saying “from my view it wasn’t a penalty” when it blatantly was.

Off subject, but the recent episode with Jeff Winter is their best ever episode imo. Much better insight into the game and he's a very funny bloke.

 

[Bladeloyal]

I've sent the ref a party invite to the Saudi embassy in Istanbul

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Esteemed Forgeblade has been saying for years that there's a level of corruption, and I've consistently disagreed. Over the past couple of years I get where he's coming from. Today isn't a one-off, I've tried to be as objective as I can, but there are bad refs who are just crap, lose control and make poor decisions for both teams. Then there are refs who appear to give decisions in a very one-sided way with no logic. Today's ref was one of those. As today's opposition manager is something of a cockney spiv, it does make you think.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Off subject, but the recent episode with Jeff Winter is their best ever episode imo. Much better insight into the game and he's a very funny bloke.

It was a decent episode, he’s full of himself though. Exactly what I’d expect from him.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

There’s an Undr the Cosh episode with Jeff Winter where he answers this question quite well. He says something along the lines of that a ref would only get interviewed if the cameras knew they’d fucked up and therefore they’re up against it straight away.

I don’t agree that they get away with shit performances like today but at the same time they wouldn’t gain much by saying “from my view it wasn’t a penalty” when it blatantly was.

It’s no good letting the ref say “from my view it wasn’t a penalty “. The question to the ref SHOULD be …. “please explain what you saw” If he then answers “from MY VIEW It wasn’t a penalty “ then the next question should be “then why didn’t you consult your assistant referee ?”

 

[texasblade1889]

Referees need to be held to account more. When it's as blatant as today they should be fined.

Fixed this for you BML…

Referees need to be held to account more. When it's as blatant as today they should be fired

 

[Houston_Blade]

It’s no good letting the ref say “from my view it wasn’t a penalty “. The question to the ref SHOULD be …. “please explain what you saw” If he then answers “from MY VIEW It wasn’t a penalty “ then the next question should be “then why didn’t you consult your assistant referee ?”

I agree, but the point that was made was that they are only going to be asked if they have made a mistake.

It would be better if they came out and said “I screwed up and I’m sorry” but the mentality of these people seems to be to try and show why they’re right even when they’re wrong, nothing good will come of a ref trying to explain away their inadequate performances.

 

[bertieblade]

I would imagine that the type of person who become a referee, is someone who is inadequate in their own personal life and crave attention to compensate them for the fact that they rarely get any.

 

[ForgeBlade]

It was a stone waller. Terrible decision by that ref.

I must have just watched it about 20 times. Honestly cannot remember a more clear-cut, stonewall penalty not being given in my 28 years of going. It's utterly incomprehensible to think that any official could see that and not give a penalty.

 

[Champagneblade]

Esteemed Forgeblade has been saying for years that there's a level of corruption, and I've consistently disagreed. Over the past couple of years I get where he's coming from. Today isn't a one-off, I've tried to be as objective as I can, but there are bad refs who are just crap, lose control and make poor decisions for both teams. Then there are refs who appear to give decisions in a very one-sided way with no logic. Today's ref was one of those. As today's opposition manager is something of a cockney spiv, it does make you think.

Put your conspiracy hat on.

Assume Sheffield United and Bournemouth are in the list of favorite clubs to go up.

Imagine the odds on the latter going up are longer than those of the former.

Imagine you'd decided to bet on the longer odds of the latter but wanted some assistance in ensuring they finished higher.

What better way to achieve this than to conjur up a penalty in one game and ignore an offside to tilt the scales, then in the return game to ignore a penalty in favour of the team you didn't want to win.

Remember, these are not games against any old teams they are games directly against each other with a double jeopardy.

I wonder what that would look like?

Bournemouth away - Bournemouth -3 Blades +3
Bournemouth home - Bournemouth -1 Blades +2

Current table
Bournemouth 73
Blades 65

Adjusted table
Blades 70
Bournemouth 69

Then it got me thinking is there some sort of pattern here?

Another few snippets from the BBC match reports regarding their matches:

9 April - Blades 0-0
Wolves loanee Gibbs-White was also denied a penalty late on after appearing to be caught by Nathaniel Phillips before Filip Uremovic missed a late sitter to win it.

2 April - Bristol City 3-2 win for AFCB:
City felt they should have had a penalty when Chris Martin appeared to be fouled by Lloyd Kelly.

12 Mar - Derby which they won 2-0 but at 0-0:
However, Derby saw penalty appeals waved away after Ravel Morrison went down in the box under a challenge from Leif Davis.

8 Mar - Peterborough 1-1
Grant McCann's side felt they should have had a fifth-minute penalty when Jonson Clarke-Harris went down under a challenge from Jack Stacey, before Dominic Solanke twice went close for the hosts in the opening 10 minutes

26 Feb - Stoke 2-1
"Zemura's challenge on Jacob Brown was no different to Morgan's challenge [on Philip Billing]. Neither are red cards, but to give a red card and to give the other one as a thrown-in to the opposition is staggering"

15 Jan - Luton - still lost 3-2 but:
The referee initially awarded them a second when Cameron Jerome side-footed into the net after Bournemouth failed to clear a corner, but changed his mind after consulting his assistant.

24 Nov - Millwall 1-1:
The hosts thought Solanke had committed a foul in the build-up to the goal as he launched himself at the ball into the box, and that sense of injustice seemed to give the home side added impetus after the break.

6 Nov - Swansea - 4-0 however at 0-0:
The visitors began on the front foot, but had little to show from their early possession, apart from a penalty claim when the lively Ethan Laird felt he was tripped by Davis.

30 Oct - Reading 2-0 however at 0-0:
However, there was controversy in the build-up to the goal as Reading midfielder Danny Drinkwater thought he had prevented the ball from going for the corner which led to it.

2 Oct - Blades 2-1:
"If I answer you honestly it will be ugly and if I answer you kindly it'll be fake." + his comments on the other goal being offside in the build up.

18 Sep - Cardiff 1-0 but:
The Bluebirds showed glimpses of attacking intent late on, with substitute James Collins heading an effort over before strong appeals for a penalty when Kieffer Moore took a tumble in the box.

6 Aug - West Brom 2-2:
Four minutes later, Robinson had the ball in the net but the goal was chalked off by referee Dean Whitestone.

By referee Dean Whitestone.

7 penalty decisions in their favour, 5 decisions directly related in their favour to goals and 1 inconsistent red in the same game just on the reports I skimmed.

That, to me, seems an awful lot of key game changing decisions going their way. A bit sus, isn't it?