Quinn

[sitwell]

I know its a well known fact I don't like the guy but today he surpassed himself. He did his usual hiding job down the left hand side ,and virtually fuck all else ,but his histrionics at Matt Lowton at the end of the game were a disgrace. Lowton is still a youngster and the last thing he needs is a senior player squaring up to him following one mistake ,Quinn has history of this at Orient with Maquire I think. Maybe he should look closer to home and remember Stevenage and numerous other occasions when he breaks play down and gived the ball away cheaply. I am very much a glass full fan and support players through thick and thin but this is one player I really can't stand and will be glad when he leaves ,please for Clark or Phillips.

 

[Superblades]

I honestly don't know why there was all the fuss about him at the beginning of the season was i think he was only playing well as he had found his level. I honestly hope he goes in January, anyone can run around for 90 mins then run upto the kop punching his chest and kissing the badge! He is one mardy bastard and that is putting it as nicely as possible!

 

[beechblade]

Missed it to be honest, I had to leave for work, was this for their second goal?

But he was very frustrating today as a player, miles out of position all game, left Williams exposed and doing a job as a left winger and left back for a lot of the first half. I think he's becoming a luxury player more than helping the team at times now, the way he plays we need to change our formation to fit him in. He's also gone back to silly flick on's instead of the simple play at times. I.E. 4-3-1-2.

However he showed he was one of the only players willing to move for the ball. Problem is he'd end up turning back and slowing our play down even more, going backwards again more often than not.

I'd like to see Flynn or Tonne on the wing, and either try Quinny as I said in a 4-3-1-2 or a diamond formation or give him a period on the bench, but I'm afraid Wilson has his favourites as well.

 

[alcoblade]

He remains one of our few players capable of doing anything creative, though bloody hell hes annoying at times. Lots of players I'd rather swap for Phillips or Clarke. There's a reason the market rates Quinn as just about the only realistic candidate.

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[B.Lade]

Missed it to be honest, I had to leave for work, was this for their second goal?

But he was very frustrating today as a player, miles out of position all game, left Williams exposed and doing a job as a left winger and left back for a lot of the first half. I think he's becoming a luxury player more than helping the team at times now, the way he plays we need to change our formation to fit him in. He's also gone back to silly flick on's instead of the simple play at times. I.E. 4-3-1-2.

However he showed he was one of the only players willing to move for the ball. Problem is he'd end up turning back and slowing our play down even more, going backwards again more often than not.

I'd like to see Flynn or Tonne on the wing, and either try Quinny as I said in a 4-3-1-2 or a diamond formation or give him a period on the bench, but I'm afraid Wilson has his favourites as well.

To be fair, second half we seemed to be playing more of a 3-5-2 with quinn operating centrally alongside McAllister/MacDonald and Doyle, Williamson on the right and Williams/LCF on the left. Once they brought on the second striker we went back to a moe conventional 4-4-2.

Thought McAllister was v poor today. We looked much better with MacDonald on. Williams was poor too.

 

[Wards]

He was very poor today, but Cresswell managed to pip him to the bottom spot.

Sorry Cres, the work ethic's there but sadly the footballer in you is not.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Totally agree Sitters..Quinn was absolute shite today. Just exactly where was he supposed to be playing? He definiteley thinks he's a better player than he actually is. At least Lowton had the ability and audacity to whip in a cross with his unfavoured left peg, which led to the first goal. It enfuriates me when professional players cannot kick with both feet and end up having to turn into disadvantaged positions to kick with their favoured peg. Quinn, Williamson and, most of all, Lescinel, were all guilty of this today. Mind you, Doyle does'nt seem to be able to kick with either leg. As for Quinn, give him a spell on the bench , bring in MacDonald and put Williamson into centre midfield and introduce some real width by playing Flynn.

 

[alcoblade]

I think a midfield parining of Williamson and McDonald would get overrun more often than the woo us with their skills. Neither works remotely hard enough to regularly hold down a midfield slot, IMHO. And that's from someone who despairs at seeing the Monty / Doyle combo, but the stats don't lie.

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[beechblade]

To be fair, second half we seemed to be playing more of a 3-5-2 with quinn operating centrally alongside McAllister/MacDonald and Doyle, Williamson on the right and Williams/LCF on the left. Once they brought on the second striker we went back to a moe conventional 4-4-2.

Thought McAllister was v poor today. We looked much better with MacDonald on. Williams was poor too.

It was the same in the first half, not sure if we got instructions to move to a 3-5-2 wasn't close enough to the bench. It's been the same in other games though not just this one so I'm unsure.

McAllister wasn't poor but he wasn't good either so yeah also a bit disappointed with his performance, but the ball was bypassing the midfield alot first half, there were times both Doyle and McAllister offered a short 5 yard pass for Maguire and Collins but they took too long in possession and Torquay quickly closed them down.

 

[Bergen Blade]

is still a youngster and the last thing he needs is a senior player squaring up to him following one mistake

When Doyle and McAllister collided early in the second half, it seemed like Doyle gave McAllister a push and a telling off afterwards. Did anyone else see it?

 

[bartman]

He was very poor today, but Cresswell managed to pip him to the bottom spot.

Sorry Cres, the work ethic's there but sadly the footballer in you is not.

Funny how people see games differently. I thought Cresswell led the line well today and brought others into the game.Evans had a nightmare first half and Cresswell appeared to the only option available

McAllister was shocking today AND Maguire lost concentration many times(Simmo wanting to roll ball out but HM not interested). In the first half it was notceable that Collins(player of the season so far?) was attacking balls in Maguire's 'zone' and HM was just stood watching

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When Doyle and McAllister collided early in the second half, it seemed like Doyle gave McAllister a push and a telling off afterwards. Did anyone else see it?

Doyle was probably fed up covering McAllister's and Quinn's mistakes

 

[beechblade]

When Doyle and McAllister collided early in the second half, it seemed like Doyle gave McAllister a push and a telling off afterwards. Did anyone else see it?

Didn't see the push but to me it looked like McAllister was in a better position to win the ball, not sure if either shouted for it though to be honest.

 

[stannyblade]

Quinn really f####d me off today. He was never on the wing all game.
Simmo 7 didnt have much to do
Lowton 7.5 looked solid
Williams 3 Truly awful AGAIN please please send him back now
Collins 8 played really well mopping up
Maguire 7.5 solid performance today
McCallister 4 rubbish
Doyle 5 not much better than McCallister
Williamson 5.5 needs to stay on his wing more
Quinn 3 Garbage just where was he playing? because it wasnt on the wing
Cressy 7 was a bit under par but led the line quite well
Evans 9 Never stopped running and on another day may well have scored more

Subs
LJF 6 did ok certainly better than Williams
Porter 6 didnt really do anything special
Macdonald 7.5 changed the game I have to admit it

 

[madeinsheffield]

Exactly how I saw it today. I said to my dad most of the team need to practice all next week kicking with their weaker foot, some many really struggle with the very basics of kicking a ball with their 'wrong' foot

 

[Pinchy]

I think a midfield parining of Williamson and McDonald would get overrun more often than the woo us with their skills. Neither works remotely hard enough to regularly hold down a midfield slot, IMHO. And that's from someone who despairs at seeing the Monty / Doyle combo, but the stats don't lie.

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It's the likes of Montgomery and Doyle who get over-run because they are slow, immobile and can't keep possession. If you keep the ball you can't be over-run. Do you miss the games when the opposition treat them as training cones? You know, Saturdays and Tuesdays.

But of course we are SUFC and, as ever, dogged mediocrity is to be preferred to talent.

 

[bricktop]

It's the likes of Montgomery and Doyle who get over-run because they are slow, immobile and can't keep possession. If you keep the ball you can't be over-run. Do you miss the games when the opposition treat them as training cones? You know, Saturdays and Tuesdays.

But of course we are SUFC and, as ever dogged mediocrity is to be preferred to talent.

What about when we play on a Wednesday or a Sunday?

 

[alcoblade]

It's the likes of Montgomery and Doyle who get over-run because they are slow, immobile and can't keep possession. If you keep the ball you can't be over-run. Do you miss the games when the opposition treat them as training cones? You know, Saturdays and Tuesdays.

But of course we are SUFC and, as ever, dogged mediocrity is to be preferred to talent.

The fact remains that we win more games when they play than when they don't. This is only missed on the clueless. People like you.

There's a reason your choice of manager prefers to play them every week in front of McDonald.

One thing that we can agree on is that we need a better midfield than Monty and Doyle. You're under some illusion that it's already at the club.

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[Pinchy]

What about when we play on a Wednesday or a Sunday?

I'm usually playing golf, like anyone with any sense

How's it going?

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The fact remains that we win more games when they play than when they don't. This is only missed on the clueless. People like you.

There's a reason your choice of manager prefers to play them every week in front of McDonald.

One thing that we can agree on is that we need a better midfield than Monty and Doyle. You're under some illusion that it's already at the club.

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McDonald changed the game today. We were 1-0 down and going nowhere 'til he came on, controlled the ball and passed to his team-mates. Your gruesome twosome couldn't change a light bulb.

 

[alcoblade]

I'm usually playing golf, like anyone with any sense

How's it going?

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McDonald changed the game today. We were 1-0 down and going nowhere 'til he came on, controlled the ball and passed to his team-mates. Your gruesome twosome couldn't change a light bulb.

I agree he made a big difference today Pinchy. You see, it's that easy to accept the obvious. You should try it sometime.

Facts remain facts though. We win more when Monty and Doyle play. And McDonald, all too often does nothing wrong for the sole reaosn that he does nothing. On his day, he can be a very good player.

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[Kempy]

I have no idea who the commentators were today on Setanta... I watched the game through the web today and the commentators were creaming over quinn. They said man of the match, excellent work rate, good crosses etc.

Did anyone else see/hear this? I saw no evidence of a "ginger messi". Seemed some work rate but very poor passing and just about everything else. his crossing was appalling especially from dead ball situations. Seriously why continue with Squinny taking free-kicks/corners when he never beats the first man??? what is the point!

 

[super_pig]

whilst i'm not disputing these figures i'd still like to see them in print (including last years results).. strikes me as being another one of those 'lampard' myths

 

[alcoblade]

whilst i'm not disputing these figures i'd still like to see them in print (including last years results).. strikes me as being another one of those 'lampard' myths

Last year can't count. We lost every week, whatever combo we used...

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[Bergen Blade]

Funny how people see games differently. I thought Cresswell led the line well today and brought others into the game.Evans had a nightmare first half and Cresswell appeared to the only option available

I struggle to see what people think Cresswell is doing well at the moment. Led the line well? Thought he lost almost every challenge and the Torquay defenders dealt with him easily. His efforts always seems to be blocked, and one goal in his last 16 matches just isn't weighed up by some decent closing down. Would Erik Tønne have escaped criticism if he was played 16 times up front and only scored once? No, people would have said he's not up to it. But as Cressy had a good start to the season and played well a couple of years ago he is excused. We need to continuously evaluate players, even the "big names", and if they are not contributing enough we should be giving someone else a chance.

I agree with you that Evans also struggled first half, though he improved immensely after the break.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

I have no idea who the commentators were today on Setanta... I watched the game through the web today and the commentators were creaming over quinn. They said man of the match, excellent work rate, good crosses etc.

I wondered who the summariser was. Ex Blade perhaps?

 

[Darren]

Last year can't count. We lost every week, whatever combo we used...

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Either Montgomery or Doyle or both has played in every game this season, so we really don't have a standard of comparism when neither of them plays

But here's the stats on the various midfield combos this season:

Monty/Doyle P5 W3 D1 L1 pts 10
Monty/McDonald P7 W4 D3 L0 pts 15
Doyle/McAllister P3 W2 D1 L0 pts 7
Doyle/Williamson P1 L1 pts 0
Doyle/McDonald P3 W1 D0 L2 pts 3

So its like the best pairing is Monty and McDonald, with Doyle and McDonald the worse (ignoring the one off Doyle/Williamson combo)

 

[bricktop]

I'm usually playing golf, like anyone with any sense

How's it going?

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It's not too bad, still on the driving range but enjoying it, and getting some vouchers for Christmas so i can go out and get some new bats.

 

[dkc Blade]

It was David Speedie. Lived in S Yorks for much of his early life, but never played for us.

 

[sitwell]

Its the small ginger hothead society.

 

[Pinchy]

It's not too bad, still on the driving range but enjoying it, and getting some vouchers for Christmas so i can go out and get some new bats.

Keep on practicing mate. I'll gladly have a knock with you in the Spring if you like.

 

[bricktop]

No worries, spring is my target to get out on the course and enjoy it for real.

Only problem is i'm a bit wayward at the moment! Bit like the Monty of Golf!