Forest media darlings

[Maurice Maurice]

A short post, but several images I will never be able to shift from my mind's eye.

Bet my little story won't make it into your next book

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Bet my little story won't make it into your next book

Fever Hitch - The Coprophilia Years

 

[Sheffsteel]

Remain a very big club Forest, despite having had a pretty abysmal 25 year spell. Only 5 seasons outside the top two divisions. Incredible what Clough and his team achieved there in a relatively small city

It's one of the biggest myths in football that Forest are a big club.
Check the actual facts..honours won....seasons in the top flight, even their historical attendances are all less than ours.

True fact...they've rarely averaged over 25.000 in the last 35 years.

Obviously it's the European cups factor....I admit that any club that wins the European Cup deserves special kudos.
Does winning 2 European cups when the standard was lower automatically make you a very big club?
In those days, some years the best most in-form teams in Europe were playing in the UEFA cup. Also you tended not to meet a team from a major league until the semi final. What Clough achieved in the late 70's was romantic and incredible but take away those unbelievable Clough years and they aren't that big.

Another weird fact is the highest average attendance in that city still belongs to Notts County who averaged 35K just after the war.

 

[William Large]

It's one of the biggest myths in football that Forest are a big club.
Check the actual facts..honours won....seasons in the top flight, even their historical attendances are all less than ours.

True fact...they've rarely averaged over 25.000 in the last 35 years.

Obviously it's the European cups factor....I admit that any club that wins the European Cup deserves special kudos.
Does winning 2 European cups when the standard was lower automatically make you a very big club?
In those days, some years the best most in-form teams in Europe were playing in the UEFA cup. Also you tended not to meet a team from a major league until the semi final. What Clough achieved in the late 70's was romantic and incredible but take away those unbelievable Clough years and they aren't that big.

Another weird fact is the highest average attendance in that city still belongs to Notts County who averaged 35K just after the war.

There still seems to be an air of arrogance amongst Forest fans, even those who were never alive (or who had parents alive) during their halycon years.
I can’t say I like either Derby or Forest but it would be pretty amazing if they Derby stay up this year.
Yes they have cheated but it’s not the fans fault and Rooney has changed my opinion of him in his time there.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Yes they have cheated but it’s not the fans fault and Rooney has changed my opinion of him in his time there.

It's quite common to hear the line "its not the fans fault", which to a degree is correct.
However it's the fans that stand to benefit most from the cheating.
Most fans actually encourage and put pressure on their club to gamble and over spend.

It's a bit like a couple....where the husband has a good job at the bank earning £60K a year.
They live a wealthy area, big mortgage and the wife always compares her lifestyle with the neighbours.
She tells her husband the neighbours have Jags and Bentleys and how they need an Aston Martin to keep up.

The neighbours go on holiday to Maldives and the Mauritius a few times a year.
She hassles her husband to stay in the worlds best hotels and go on cruises
They spends many £1000's on fashion clothing etc etc.

After living a semi millionaire lifestyle for a few years it transpires the hubby was committing fraud at the bank transferring £1 million into his bank account. The wife says she knew nothing about this so it's not her fault. The husband says he would have never done it but received so much pressure from the wife to keep up with his wives spending spree and addiction to a luxury lifestyle.

 

[Gareth Kay]

Weirdly enough, I’m enjoying the Derby ‘story’ far more than Forests. The fact that they’re not bottom of the league is a miracle in itself - but to have them only 5 points from safety, after a 20 odd point deduction and a side who are a cobbled together collection of anyone who’d sign what is effectively a 6 month youth contract is mind boggling.

Rooney is doing an amazing job there both on and off the pitch. His media work has been excellent.

Edit - forgot to post my actual point… For me, Derby should be the focus of the media ‘love in’. Nobody else in the football league comes close.

Manager of the season Rooney by a country mile

 

[Gareth Kay]

It's quite common to hear the line "its not the fans fault", which to a degree is correct.
However it's the fans that stand to benefit most from the cheating.
Most fans actually encourage and put pressure on their club to gamble and over spend.

It's a bit like a couple....where the husband has a good job at the bank earning £60K a year.
They live a wealthy area, big mortgage and the wife always compares her lifestyle with the neighbours.
She tells her husband the neighbours have Jags and Bentleys and how they need an Aston Martin to keep up.

The neighbours go on holiday to Maldives and the Mauritius a few times a year.
She hassles her husband to stay in the worlds best hotels and go on cruises
They spends many £1000's on fashion clothing etc etc.

After living a semi millionaire lifestyle for a few years it transpires the hubby was committing fraud at the bank transferring £1 million into his bank account. The wife says she knew nothing about this so it's not her fault. The husband says he would have never done it but received so much pressure from the wife to keep up with his wives spending spree and addiction to a luxury lifestyle.

Bang on that

 

[Gareth Kay]

It's one of the biggest myths in football that Forest are a big club.
Check the actual facts..honours won....seasons in the top flight, even their historical attendances are all less than ours.

True fact...they've rarely averaged over 25.000 in the last 35 years.

Obviously it's the European cups factor....I admit that any club that wins the European Cup deserves special kudos.
Does winning 2 European cups when the standard was lower automatically make you a very big club?
In those days, some years the best most in-form teams in Europe were playing in the UEFA cup. Also you tended not to meet a team from a major league until the semi final. What Clough achieved in the late 70's was romantic and incredible but take away those unbelievable Clough years and they aren't that big.

Another weird fact is the highest average attendance in that city still belongs to Notts County who averaged 35K just after the war.

Worded that perfect. Lucky time . What Leicester did was better

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I've got a Florist supporting mate who is delusional and genuinely believes that the rest of English football still regards them to be one of the top ten clubs in the country. This is all based on their once high finish in the Premier League and of course ..... yawn .... their European Cup win. I have to remind him that they've been out of the Premier League since 1999 (23 seasons), and we've had three seasons in it since then. We've also been to the play offs and play off finals more times than them during the last 23 seasons, we've also had bigger average attendances during that period, and we've been to two FA Cup semi finals and two League Cup semi finals in that period. So if he wants to talk about who has been the bigger club since 1999 then it obviously is despite 6 years in League One, which they also spend a lengthy amount of time in. So does that make us one of the top ten clubs in the country by his logic, after all we were champions of England once and four times FA Cup winners?

He'll send form tables and anything he can find and manipulate to put Forest ahead of the Blades. It's delusional but hilarious sometimes. I have to remind him that we never had a manager who sat in the away team dug out in his first game in charge.

 

[William Large]

It's quite common to hear the line "its not the fans fault", which to a degree is correct.
However it's the fans that stand to benefit most from the cheating.
Most fans actually encourage and put pressure on their club to gamble and over spend.

It's a bit like a couple....where the husband has a good job at the bank earning £60K a year.
They live a wealthy area, big mortgage and the wife always compares her lifestyle with the neighbours.
She tells her husband the neighbours have Jags and Bentleys and how they need an Aston Martin to keep up.

The neighbours go on holiday to Maldives and the Mauritius a few times a year.
She hassles her husband to stay in the worlds best hotels and go on cruises
They spends many £1000's on fashion clothing etc etc.

After living a semi millionaire lifestyle for a few years it transpires the hubby was committing fraud at the bank transferring £1 million into his bank account. The wife says she knew nothing about this so it's not her fault. The husband says he would have never done it but received so much pressure from the wife to keep up with his wives spending spree and addiction to a luxury lifestyle.

I agree to an extent but as the custodians of the club, the owners have a duty - to the fans to ensure that they don’t put the future of the club in jeopardy.
Would those fans choose longevity and and occasional flirt with the premier league over borrowing well over what we can afford for ‘one big push’ and the gamble that we go out of business or get hammered with a huge points deduction?
I know what most would choose.
Fans watch clubs spend money in the hope the the club can actually afford it having seen the lessons learnt by so many in the past

 

[Speedracer]

She looks like summat I'd end up snogging after 10 pints at the Crazy Daizy in 1975.......

Ah man, that little sentence brought back so many happy memories of those days in there.

 

[S64 Blade]

We were about 7th on the listing on the EFL show again last night. They had some shocking games on before us and didn’t even show all the chances we had.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

We were about 7th on the listing on the EFL show again last night. They had some shocking games on before us and didn’t even show all the chances we had.

Don’t they pretty much top down in terms of league table usually? Not watched it yet so don’t know about last night

 

[metalblade]

Not a lot of difference between Forest and pig fans both think they are massive and both have to be over 30 to remember their teams playing in the Premier league. Years since either averaged 30,000 that is if Forest ever have. Deluded.

 

[S64 Blade]

Don’t they pretty much top down in terms of league table usually? Not watched it yet so don’t know about last night

No it was Luton - West Brom first.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Ah right, no doubt the Bruce can’t buy a goal narrative then

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Forest Media darlings? - they've won the European cup twice and they deserve a place on a pedestal at times.

For sure some of their fans still play on that and although it was a long time ago in pre premier league, it was still a great achievement for a club their size.

What's betting Leicester go the same way in a few years time - we're seeing the same signs beginning to appear.

UTB

 

[Sheffsteel]

Not a lot of difference between Forest and pig fans both think they are massive and both have to be over 30 to remember their teams playing in the Premier league. Years since either averaged 30,000 that is if Forest ever have. Deluded.

In the last 54 seasons Forest have averaged over 30,000 on ONE occasion, that's when they won the league in 1978.

Don't get me wrong they are a decent sized club (like us) and have a hardcore of about 20K...which is good, but they've never had big support.
Think the demise of Notts County struggling in the non league is probably expanding the Forest fan base, hence why Forest current support (26K average) is very promising.

If you're a young kid growing up in Nottingham..there's no longer much of a choice...surely you're going to support Forest.
So in future years Forest do have the potential to regularly average over 30K if they get back to the PL.

 

[Blade56]

When my Grandma was losing it , she started carrying her own fresh logs ... It was a brave nurse who'd tackle her

Yep, log chucking does seem a thing with grannies when the synaptic bullets start misfiring. That and posting bacon and their pension through neighbours doors, funny they complain about the shit and the bacon but not the cash innit?

 

[Sheffsteel]

Forest Media darlings? - they've won the European cup twice and they deserve a place on a pedestal at times.

For sure some of their fans still play on that and although it was a long time ago in pre premier league, it was still a great achievement for a club their size.

What's betting Leicester go the same way in a few years time - we're seeing the same signs beginning to appear.

UTB

Agree.....its the European Cup factor.

Any club that wins Europes major prize become a special club. Forest have won it TWICE and had one of the greatest most charismatic managers (Brian Clough) the game has ever seen.

So although the historical stats show Forest are NOT a big club....the European Cup winners factors places them on a very special pedestal.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Feel sorry for the Forest fans that made the trip to Bournemouth on Friday only for it to be called off.

 

[shorehamview]

Feel sorry for the Forest fans that made the trip to Bournemouth on Friday only for it to be called off.

Fuck ‘em, they’ve had a trip to the seaside. Fish and chips, fresh doughnuts, some candy floss and a rock cock and that‘s their happy weekend sorted.

 

[Yewsman]

To be fair Forest have had a fantastic run in the Championship and knocked 2 PL teams out of FA Cup so deserve the attention. However I’d much rather remain below the radar. If we are constantly being bigged up it puts more pressure on our players. I am hoping the the Cup run will mean extra games for them leading to fatigue and extra injuries. Bit like our “nearly season” when we finished 3rd and got to semis of both Cups then lost in Play off Final.

 

[Sheffsteel]

To be fair Forest have had a fantastic run in the Championship and knocked 2 PL teams out of FA Cup so deserve the attention. However I’d much rather remain below the radar. If we are constantly being bigged up it puts more pressure on our players. I am hoping the the Cup run will mean extra games for them leading to fatigue and extra injuries. Bit like our “nearly season” when we finished 3rd and got to semis of both Cups then lost in Play off Final.

Agree....both Forest and Middlesboro currently have the distraction of the cup.
Hope they both win their cup games and build up a bit of end of season fixture congestion.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Agree.....its the European Cup factor.

Any club that wins Europes major prize become a special club. Forest have won it TWICE and had one of the greatest most charismatic managers (Brian Clough) the game has ever seen.

So although the historical stats show Forest are NOT a big club....the European Cup winners factors places them on a very special pedestal.

Yes, Brian Clough was different gravy - a peoples champion in a way, a likeable person that other fans could associate with and probably wish that he was their manager.

Had the pleasure once of crossing his path at a reserve game at H'boro (long story!) and there was no need for him to interface with me, but he did and it was a nice gesture. Was in the Forest ground the day we did them 0-2 in his last home game and the respect paid to him by Blades fans in the away end was magnificent and his response with his "thumbs up" gesture was lovely to see.

Shame the men in suits would never give him the England job - we might just have won something other than the 66 world cup.

UTB

 

[dn5 shaun]

Manager of the season Rooney by a country mile

Even if hecky gets us promoted ?

 

[Deleted member 23679]

When I was a kid I had a mate who couldn't help but go behind a tree and have a shit every time we were playing in the woods. One time I forgot and during a game of hide and seek, dived behind a holly bush, only to skid on my knees on a freshly laid log. I was fucking fuming so went and grabbed the bastard and rubbed his head in it.

HIs hair was fucking clogged up with it and he was boking all over the shop, begging us to rub some in our hair so he could tell his mum we'd been throwing it at each other and he wouldn't get done.

Not a chance, dirty bastard, we weren't mates for a while after that.

Just going off subject here but when I was a kid we had a disused Ironworks near us. One day there was a group of us messing around in it, and pissing around with a BB Gun. Then we discovered a wasps nest. The biggest wasps nest known to man or beast. Being a bright and enterprising sort of youth, I saw a bright opening in the market for pest control, and decided the best way of eradicating this wasps nest was by putting small pellets of lead shot in to it. The first two missiles were off target. Fortunately we had a lad with us who had the nickname Dougie Daz, as he wasn't the sharpest tool in the box but he would do anything we told him to do, and he was a massive Sheffield Wednesday fan, so possibly that was linked to his lack of intelligence as well. We decided his best role in this enterprise would be as a guide, he would stand next to the wasps nest, closely observing where the missiles were landing and then he could advise us on how best to adjust our aim.

Then after 3 or 4 more goes, I pulled the trigger in a display of expert marksmanship and jackpot. I scored a direct hit, before I saw Dougie Daz falling to the floor screaming in agony as hundreds of angry wasps blamed him for demolishing their home. After a while we helped him up and took him back home, where his mother came rushing out of the house hysterical about the state of poor old Dougie Daz. Then he committed the cardinal sin. We had carefully briefed him on the story of how he came to be attacked by a swarming hoard of angry wasps, which was we had been playing football and he had stumbled upon a wasps nest whist retrieving the football from some trees, but he failed to mention this and told the real reason which put an end to a fun filled summer of BB Gun based jolly japes and adventures as it got confiscated, i got a good hiding off my Dad and got grounded for a fortnight after.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Being successful also has it's down side, unless you are top table you lose you best players and manager.......

 

[SRA76]

Don’t like forest just down to coming from a mining background and hate owt to do wi Nottinghamshire really plus they nicked Robin Hood of us , but forest are in most people’s eyes a bigger club than us so it would be a bigger deal for media if they went up. We had loads of media love in that first season in Prem so let em have it