EddieColquhoun
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I didn’t even realise 1 month loans were still a thing. Haven’t heard of one in ages.I honestly don't get 1 month loans by the time you start getting used to new surroundings your off back to parent club.
Like ndiaye and jebbison ?Another 'don't dare start playing kids who might show our expensive Wilder flops up - get 'em out loaned' move.
pommpey
Like ndiaye and jebbison ?
One way of viewing it I suppose.Another 'don't dare start playing kids who might show our expensive Wilder flops up - get 'em out loaned' move.
pommpey
I think part of this is the pragmatism around games during the festive period as well as getting men's football.I honestly don't get 1 month loans by the time you start getting used to new surroundings your off back to parent club.
We brought back Arblaster from Bradford PA and sent Maguire to them.A report suggested we had brought someone back early, who is that?
A few lads going out on short term loans to local clubs. Does that = common sense, just to see if they are up to it, before extending the loan or sending them further afield?I honestly don't get 1 month loans by the time you start getting used to new surroundings your off back to parent club.
Is Wilder solely to blame for these players being bought? Was there not a chairman and numerous others involved in the acquisition of players? Do we know that the players we bought were first choice, or did Wilder identify a list and then the recruitment team worked their way down the list until they found a player who accepted the low (for PL) wages on offer?Ndaiye has been mysteriously frozen out and Jebbison is/was at Burton, isn't he?
Clear what the board policy is here. If Wilder's duds aren't playing, they aren't in the shop window, however shit they are. They are just eking out their time with their thumbs up their arses and depreciating which is a loss to the club.
One day, people will realise the financial and technical damage Wilder's naïve transfer spree has done to Sheffield United. They stop blaming COVID and other disconnected fluff and concentrate on his stubbornness with his one-system approach and the shower of expensive damp squibs he thought were enhancements. The ignoring of our gathering midfield crisis is one amongst several failures he left us with.
pommpey
Got out the wrong side of the bed this morning?Ndaiye has been mysteriously frozen out and Jebbison is/was at Burton, isn't he?
Clear what the board policy is here. If Wilder's duds aren't playing, they aren't in the shop window, however shit they are. They are just eking out their time with their thumbs up their arses and depreciating which is a loss to the club.
One day, people will realise the financial and technical damage Wilder's naïve transfer spree has done to Sheffield United. They stop blaming COVID and other disconnected fluff and concentrate on his stubbornness with his one-system approach and the shower of expensive damp squibs he thought were enhancements. The ignoring of our gathering midfield crisis is one amongst several failures he left us with.
pommpey
Scarebus is correct. I think he was also selected for England U18s tournament in Spain? Hence the withdrawal and replacement.A report suggested we had brought someone back early, who is that?
Ndiaye hasn't been mysteriously frozen out at all his form dipped so he was replaced he's still in and around the squadNdaiye has been mysteriously frozen out and Jebbison is/was at Burton, isn't he?
Clear what the board policy is here. If Wilder's duds aren't playing, they aren't in the shop window, however shit they are. They are just eking out their time with their thumbs up their arses and depreciating which is a loss to the club.
One day, people will realise the financial and technical damage Wilder's naïve transfer spree has done to Sheffield United. They stop blaming COVID and other disconnected fluff and concentrate on his stubbornness with his one-system approach and the shower of expensive damp squibs he thought were enhancements. The ignoring of our gathering midfield crisis is one amongst several failures he left us with.
pommpey
Ndaiye has been mysteriously frozen out
He’s been injured for most of this season pomps and dipped in form towards the end of last season a months loan to get him up to speed and reevaluate in January seems pretty sensible to me.Another 'don't dare start playing kids who might show our expensive Wilder flops up - get 'em out loaned' move.
pommpey
Been injured pig end like you say playing men’s football at 17 is no small achievement and will help bring him alongHis progress seems to have slown a little. He was a big name in the academy, I remember someone on here describing him as a generational talent and when he came off the bench and almost scored on his debut I was really excited about him getting into the first team squad.
I've kept an eye on him in the 23s and he's not scored as many recently.
He's a kid, and I only skim over the academy news and highlights but he went from one of our closest (to making the step) to one on the outskirts a little.
A loan move should really gauge where he is and teach him a lot.
Is Wilder solely to blame for these players being bought? Was there not a chairman and numerous others involved in the acquisition of players? Do we know that the players we bought were first choice, or did Wilder identify a list and then the recruitment team worked their way down the list until they found a player who accepted the low (for PL) wages on offer?
We don’t know the answers to most of this, so it’s unfair the lay the blame solely at Wilder’s door.
Well it appears to have mystified youHas he?
His full debut was against Peterborough and he was sensational. He also played pretty well in some other games eg Millwall. His form did dip a bit but that coincided with the form of the whole team who certainly gave the impression they didn’t want to play for Slav. I think Ndjaye is an outstanding and exciting prospect and although he hasn’t played in the last few games he has been on the bench.His progress seems to have slown a little. He was a big name in the academy, I remember someone on here describing him as a generational talent and when he came off the bench and almost scored on his debut I was really excited about him getting into the first team squad.
I've kept an eye on him in the 23s and he's not scored as many recently.
He's a kid, and I only skim over the academy news and highlights but he went from one of our closest (to making the step) to one on the outskirts a little.
A loan move should really gauge where he is and teach him a lot.
Wilders recruitment up until we got into PL was largely great (apart from the odd thing like Holmes). However once we were in the PL it was terrible. Players who didn’t make the step up to PL and in every case we vastly overpaid for them. Also as others have said we were completely over stocked with strikers and he ignored the obvious lack of quality and athleticism in midfield and we never replaced JOC even with a loan player.Wilder was team manager, wasn't he?
He will have had a portfolio from his scouts and advisors and his likely areas to prepare for the future as a PL club. Quite what the flying fuck he was doing buying Moussett to fulfil the striker's role when even at Bournemouth he was shy on goals and unable to finish a game is anyone's guess. I can't see HRH and his board being particularly influential on twisting his arm for that one, even at £10-11m, depending on who you speak to.
But elsewhere ... it's not just this cash acquisitions which confound the sensibilities of even the most mild-mannered football follower. Berge (unproven in the English leagues), Brewster (great at Swansea, unproven anywhere else), Burke (laughably shit), McBurnie (see Brewster), Bogle and Lowe (between them we've had about 40% of the return expected and only through Bogle) Robinson (jesus-tittyfucking-christ) ... but what the fuck was going on with Rodwell, Freeman and Robinson C and even the stupidity of spending all that on cack and not breaking the bank for a keeper tons better than Ramsdale in goal for us. I mean, given the logic surrounding the four areas of our team:
Goalkeeping: Was it wise to simply let Henderson go back without a robust bid to buy him back to a team he was comfortable in and pulling off some simply brilliant saves?
Defence: We let Stearman go on promotion. Is he not any worse than the shower of pretty Chad Valley LCBs we have had trying to cover for Jack? Stears was nails. He'd have broken his dick trying to keep a clean sheet. What's with all those signings anyway? Bryan (inconsistent and flakey) Robinson (fucking rubbish) and playing Stevens in an unfamiliar role even when he's on his way down in form?
Midfield: Letting Besic go? To me he was a player who could only get better with more games and more of an imposing, game-making midfielder who could attack, tackle and defend in equal measures. Yet we blew the bank on a nesh sicknote who occasionally turns on the flashes of capability, mainly these days to bid for a transfer we suspect. And why not get that engine room optimised? Norwood and Fleck, one would wish to understand, would be the anchor points in any progressive United side but they have been serially woeful across two seasons now, with no sign of replacing them. One would imagine they'd be first for the chop yet during Wilder's period we signed no one to threaten their positions instead caused Lundstram to chuck his dummy out by signing sicknote. The only midfielder we have had any return out of is - in limited terms - Osborn and even he is technically playing out of position and finds himself outmuscled.
Strikers: 'Just buy strikers'. He did, lots of them. I don't think between them they've topped twenty goals in three seasons, have they? To remain viable in any league that has to be a total for one striker in one season with two or three others on ten or above.
Wilder had his ambitions and was obviously persuasive on HRH to chuck the dice on future revenue (because I doubt he had the cash in his pockets at the time) to gamble on his gut feelings rather than bring in tried and tested PL out of favours and benchwarmers - preferably ones who can complete 90 minutes and have goals and playing ability in them at the top flight of English football.
So, in short, I disagree. It's his gig. He owns this until we actually start turning a corner then it becomes Heckingbottom's.
pommpey
Sure he scored twice last weekHis full debut was against Peterborough and he was sensational. He also played pretty well in some other games eg Millwall. His form did dip a bit but that coincided with the form of the whole team who certainly gave the impression they didn’t want to play for Slav. I think Ndjaye is an outstanding and exciting prospect and although he hasn’t played in the last few games he has been on the bench.
(he hasn’t scored for the U23s as he has not been playing for them - one game only I think)
Unless they want to keep you for a longer period and United are ok with thatI honestly don't get 1 month loans by the time you start getting used to new surroundings your off back to parent club.
I've done this to death on other posts but I wholeheartedly agree with yourself and Pompey_Blade here.Wilders recruitment up until we got into PL was largely great (apart from the odd thing like Holmes). However once we were in the PL it was terrible. Players who didn’t make the step up to PL and in every case we vastly overpaid for them. Also as others have said we were completely over stocked with strikers and he ignored the obvious lack of quality and athleticism in midfield and we never replaced JOC even with a loan player.
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