Callum Robinson

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Would we be a better team if we kept Callum Robinson with us?

  • Yes

    Votes: 93 38.0%

  • No

    Votes: 134 54.7%

  • Who’s Robinson?

    Votes: 18 7.3%
  • Total voters
    245



He bad the awkward combination when here of trying to step up a division, whilst never fitting to our system.

He isn't strong enough or clinical enough to be a CF, isn't quick enough to be the second striker that we sought, or to be an out and out winger for that matter. Has to be used as part of a 3 with WFs and that's a luxury to carry when a squad needs to maximise it's resources and have several players for several systems.
 
Badger Blade said:
He coincided with Luke Freeman as two players that we bought seemingly with no idea how we were going to use them.

More money down the toilet and even worse than that, we ended up trading Robinson for a bloke who can run fast and cosplays Keanu Reeves on his days off.
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Wilder had said his original plan was "2 number 10's". Basically 523. But then Lundstram did so well in the 'flat 3' it never happened.

I never understood why we didn't work on it as an alternative formation though?
 
Carlton Blade said:
Wilder had said his original plan was "2 number 10's". Basically 523. But then Lundstram did so well in the 'flat 3' it never happened.

I never understood why we didn't work on it as an alternative formation though?
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Even if the plan was 5-2-2-1 with two "number 10s" I don't really understand what the plan was with bringing Robinson in given that he's only ever been effective as a wide forward. Wilder's approach seemed to me the same as my father-in-law and his cars: "that's a great deal"...but he doesn't need a Discovery 4 to cruise the mean streets of S61, just like Wilder didn't need to bring in a wide forward.
 
Balham Blade said:
Even if the plan was 5-2-2-1 with two "number 10s" I don't really understand what the plan was with bringing Robinson in given that he's only ever been effective as a wide forward. Wilder's approach seemed to me the same as my father-in-law and his cars: "that's a great deal"...but he doesn't need a Discovery 4 to cruise the mean streets of S61, just like Wilder didn't need to bring in a wide forward.
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If you want me to say he only signed him because he played well against us, just like Freeman, McBurnie etc I will......

Just don't want to get attacked by the 'Firm'
 
Carlton Blade said:
Wilder had said his original plan was "2 number 10's". Basically 523. But then Lundstram did so well in the 'flat 3' it never happened.

I never understood why we didn't work on it as an alternative formation though?
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sticks another pin in the Lundstram voodoo doll

All we did if we needed to chase a game was give Basham the hook and put an extra body further upfield. I'm not sure we ever did anything much different to that.

I quite like the 3-4-3/5-2-3 type thing we're doing where the defence are now doing what they're used to doing but we've got a bit more threat going forward without having to rely on Basham and O'Connell being our most creative players. Seemed like a natural progression from the flat 3 but like you say, never got done, particularly last season where we looked like we'd already given up before the game had kicked off, seemingly doing nothing but trying to keep the score down.
 



Carlton Blade said:
He was embarrassingly bad for us. We asked him to play back to goal at times and he looked like he'd never played football before. Could not learn when and where to press to the point others were literally shouting and pointing where he should be
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This thread prompted me to watch the highlights back of that comeback against Chelsea, in which he scored the first.

If you want to see a prime example of not knowing where to be, or who to press - Jesus, look at us for the first goal and look at McBurnie - well out of position, strolling and not busting a bollock to get anywhere.

Not only that, but we've seen that his justification could never be "well I was hanging back for the team, in case of the counter" cos he never does that either. Pure ball watching and no positional awareness.

 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
This thread prompted me to watch the highlights back of that comeback against Chelsea, in which he scored the first.

If you want to see a prime example of not knowing where to be, or who to press - Jesus, look at us for the first goal and look at McBurnie - well out of position, strolling and not busting a bollock to get anywhere.

Not only that, but we've seen that his justification could never be "well I was hanging back for the team, in case of the counter" cos he never does that either. Pure ball watching and no positional awareness.

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They both had great games against us the year before 🤷‍♂️
 
Decent player at this level. Already got a handful of goals and a handful of assists.
Better stats than any of our players except for Billy who plays CF.

He was hideous as a centre forward, but he isn't one - so I can't really blame him for that. As others have said, he is effective as a wide forward. When he picks the ball up and has space to operate in in front of him he can hurt teams. He had none of that here.

If I knew we were coming down I'd have never switched him for Burke. But genuinely, given where we were at it was the right move. Burke, in the system we were playing in the Prem, offered more than Robinson could have.
 
CaptainMorgans said:
Decent player at this level. Already got a handful of goals and a handful of assists.
Better stats than any of our players except for Billy who plays CF.

He was hideous as a centre forward, but he isn't one - so I can't really blame him for that. As others have said, he is effective as a wide forward. When he picks the ball up and has space to operate in in front of him he can hurt teams. He had none of that here.

If I knew we were coming down I'd have never switched him for Burke. But genuinely, given where we were at it was the right move. Burke, in the system we were playing in the Prem, offered more than Robinson could have.
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The right move, if he wasn’t going to use Robinson, was ask for cash in full from WBA and not take Burke, who is a terrible player.
 
Bizarre to move him on after such a short spell should have had more of a chance
 
Revolution said:
The right move, if he wasn’t going to use Robinson, was ask for cash in full from WBA and not take Burke, who is a terrible player.
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Given West Brom had just been promoted I never really got the desire to entertain a swap from them.

As had been mentioned, he'd made a decent start with them to the point they wanted to keep him. Asking for our money back would have been sensible. We had Sharp, McGoldrick, Mousset, McBurnie and we were in the hunt for another striker and eventually went for Brewster. Why did we need a 6th striker anyway when we had no legitimate cover at LCB?
 
He was an odd signing and was always unlikely to fit into CW's 3-5-2 formation - probably just another case of buying the top talent in the Champ regardless of how and where they play. He never convinced as a central striker, struggled playing with his back to goal and only ever looked a threat when he either drifted wide (to his more natural position) or on the very odd occasions that he got in behind the defence.

He would however have been better suited to SJ preferred formation/s and style of play.
 
Mouth of the South said:
He was an odd signing and was always unlikely to fit into CW's 3-5-2 formation - probably just another case of buying the top talent in the Champ regardless of how and where they play. He never convinced as a central striker, struggled playing with his back to goal and only ever looked a threat when he either drifted wide (to his more natural position) or on the very odd occasions that he got in behind the defence.

He would however have been better suited to SJ preferred formation/s and style of play.
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I remember him playing for Preston against us at the Lane and looking really good, he was their best player on the day.
Was pleased we signed him but agree he was kind of an attacking winger but we never used wingers.
 
Nice to know there’s no hard feelings from his side. Must be quite hard getting traded for Oli fuckin Burke.

I quite liked Robinson, but he’s a player someone should’ve signed for a promotion push. Not after it. As season getting promoted getting used to the system before the prem and he might have had more chance of making an impact.
 
He came over and applauded us after WBA beat us 4-0 too, despite having been booed throughout the game.
 



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